You can feel a country is dead broke if people quibble about pocket change being given to politicians.

No that’s not the reason at all.

Interesting

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...an-rishi-sunak

Well if all you can offer is austerity by any other name, it's all you can expect.

Who would have thought that having policies might be a good idea?

Preening contemptuous dishonesty doesn't seem popular for some reason.

I'm genuinely curious what you'd like to see in the place of austerity. I know you've voted Tory (and for other parties) before and I'm interested in how you'd deal with the dire situation in the UK when most people are blathering about fixed size cakes and national debt.

This graph sums up Labour's performance so far quite well.



Starmer could be in trouble if this carries on. No charisma, no vision and most importantly no policies that will make a difference to working people.

They have a policy and there are detailed plans that will make a huge difference to working people.

First they will do the 'prudent' bit. Then they will claim their brilliant hard decisions has attracted huge investment to the uk.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ance-blackrock

There is no money though, if the people want more money spent on them no party would be able to satisfy them

It's nonsense that "there's no money". 860Bn of the "national debt" is money owned by the government to itself.

Ask yourself what would happen if money was suddenly needed to fund another war.

There's always money when the stock market or pound need propping up, or a war is to be fought, but never when investment in the infrastructure or skills is needed.

Kenyesian buy yourself out of it, using house building as a key driver. Even if it doesn't entirely work out, more houses.

Also cancel student debt, and reintroduce grants instead of loams for desired industry sectors where there are clear shortages in recruitment (eg nurses)

i think making working class boys and girls who enter work at 18 pay for middle class boys and girls to get shitfaced for three years (which, to be clear, is very much the median university experience) is a horrible idea and i dont know why its so popular

I don t think drinking properly is that common anymore

We haven't posted about the fayed mass rape/cover up story. So bad
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2...hamed-al-fayed

Can't help but wonder if starmer is going to get dragged into it. The usual press is already there but this may have proper legs given fayed significence with the establishment. Maybe it didn't reach starmer's desk but then again maybe it did.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2k9ggjdjdo

I remember decades ago, Private Eye often reported on Al-Fayed making young female staff undertake rather intrusive medical examinations where he got the results, and asking why he was doing this.

Didn't come as a surprise to me at all.

I can't say i'm suprised in general but the sheer extent of it all is looking astonishing. And that it's only just beginning to be properly revealed!

If there was a need of money akin to WW2 there would be widespread rationing in the economy of "luxuries" (ie everything not indispensable to survive) for many years even after the war itself to avoid absurd inflation.

There would absolutely not be enough money in the real sense around to pay for a WW2 event and keep living standards as they are, not by a large margin, in the UK or Italy or France and so on.

Not sure what you mean about money for the stock market or the pound.

If you dislike thinking money think real stuff. There aren't millions of capable unemployed people to activate to make more stuff.

Everytime you want more of something you have to give up something else (and wait for the people and capital employed in something to be switched to the stuff you want more of, if they can, which isnt always obvious), as a society, unless you have slack (unused employment/real capital).

Keynesian bootstrapping is a model that applies to SLACK. Keynes insight was about the fact that if things are dire *and a lot of people and real capital are not utilized* you can save the day by using state cash to get them in motion and you get more stuff done so the intervention itself doesn't even necessarily cost anything in the middle-long term.

It's not applicable unless you have the slack. The empty factory floors, the unplowed fields, the empty ships, and the capable people unemployed to make something out of that capital.

Did you even try to read a Keynesian model once? Or Keynes own words?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...t-news-updates

lol

It's most likely a large part of the reson why some arms sales to israel have been stopped.

Loads of people dying isn't so funny when they might end up in the dock

mm that will def happen