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08-25-2024 , 07:22 AM

#14076

BOIDS

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Speaking of whiny

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08-25-2024 , 08:00 AM

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jalfrezi

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Speaking of hypocrisy

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08-25-2024 , 08:52 AM

#14078

chezlaw

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Originally Posted by BOIDS

Kier apparently about to make a speech about how everything is awful and the Tories the Tories the Tories

Not sure of the wisdom of that. Sounds a bit whiny

He seems to be gping for 'clueless idiot'

I think he is lying but either way it ain't great

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08-25-2024 , 09:13 AM

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08-25-2024 , 12:22 PM

#14080

John21

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Originally Posted by Luciom

we do have "pills" (procedures) that increase life expectancy without allowing for economic contribution right now, and we aren't figuring out how to increase productivity enough (something we would do regardless to improve life conditions), which is why the olds are becoming an ever increasing burden in Italy, Germany, south Korea, Japan and so on.

Not all productivity growth is created equal:

The thing is when we drill down into all that what we see is that the bulk of the benefits of our productivity growth over the last 20 years or so mostly increased businesses competitiveness against other businesses in the marketplace as opposed to providing tangible quality of life improving benefits to consumers.

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08-25-2024 , 03:13 PM

#14081

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Originally Posted by Husker

This thread has been a bin fire for the past few weeks.

I'm not sure it was ever exactly All Souls Common Room on a particularly mellow evening.

TE Lawrence once walked into All Souls and a bishop looked up from reading The Times and said, 'Ah, Lawrence. Where have you been?' 'London, my lord.' 'And how was the capital? How was the traffic? Was it... exsuccous?' 'Exsuccous, my lord, but not positively inspissated.'

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08-27-2024 , 05:47 AM

#14082

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Oh great Kier Starmer pushing Austerity by another name using taxation by another name as some sort of glorious 5 year plan.

You know, the '5 year plan' approach that never works out wherever it's been done.

Twist is, because of inflation, it's the 10 year plan.

I'd like to hear what the plan is, not what the taxes are or how painful it will be.

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08-27-2024 , 05:49 AM

#14083

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BBC report says:

"I frankly don't want to take the tough decisions we're going to have to take," he says.

it should be:

"I frankly don't want to take the tough decisions we're going to have to take," he whines.

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08-27-2024 , 05:51 AM

#14084

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seriously, banging on about 22 billiion shortfall would sound stupid if you talked about a 1.4% shortfall.

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08-27-2024 , 06:18 AM

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The con is always the same - they know when they talk in absolute numbers people will think "oh that's a huge amount" and not oppose their policies but if they talk about % of GDP they'd be thrown out.

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08-27-2024 , 06:20 AM

#14086

diebitter

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I think I'm starting to align with Jalfrezi.

We're all doomed.

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08-27-2024 , 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi

1.4% of GDP just to break even with what already exists is an insane amount, given there is a list of things Labour would like to do that require even more money.

They barely had fiscal coverage for some of their plans through increases in taxes they campaigned for, but if they have to use them to cover the 1.4% gap there is no money for anything new.

Or i mean you keep doing deficits so inflation so rates stay high and what could go wrong right?

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08-27-2024 , 07:11 AM

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chezlaw

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi

Throwing them pout is not teh problem. Creating somethign better to replace them with is the hard bit

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08-27-2024 , 07:12 AM

#14089

chezlaw

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Originally Posted by diebitter

'Frankly I'n not going to take any tough decisions (well not tough for me anyway)' he means

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08-27-2024 , 07:37 AM

#14090

DoyleBrunsonFan

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi

1901. A time and place we all yearn to return to.

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08-27-2024 , 09:18 PM

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The UK is set to start talks on a new co-operation treaty with Germany, as the Labour government looks to "reset" relations with Europe.

Sir Keir Starmer, who is in Berlin for meetings with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, said the deal was part of a bid to "turn a corner on Brexit".

Downing Street said the agreement would cover areas such as energy security, technology and science.

It added it would also cover access to each other's markets and trade across the North Sea.

After Berlin, Sir Keir will travel to Paris to meet French President Emmanuel Macron and attend the Paralympics opening ceremony.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg3pxz4334o

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08-29-2024 , 05:53 PM

#14092

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It's a start...

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09-02-2024 , 08:13 AM

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Lucy Connolly, the wife of a Tory councillor, has pleaded guilty at Northampton Crown Court to publishing a social media post which stirred up racial hatred.

The 41-year old called for mass deportations and attacks on hotels housing asylum seekers in a post on X on the day three girls were killed in Southport.

"Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f****** hotels full of the bas***** for all I care... If that makes me racist, so be it," the post read.

Judge Adrienne Lucking KC told Lucy Connolly she's likely to be sent to jail when she is sentenced next month.

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09-02-2024 , 03:54 PM

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Her Tory councillor husband excusing her on grounds of....having a miscarriage 12 years earlier

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09-03-2024 , 03:56 AM

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09-03-2024 , 10:08 AM

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I’d post a tweet about the Labour MP for Ilford South who has a portfolio of rental flats that are in a disgusting state, making him the new Rachman , but I can’t find one.

So instead here’s Zahawi also being a disgusting person.

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09-03-2024 , 10:23 AM

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Dunyain

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I read some stat that 1/6 Tory voters will literally die in the next 5 years. And that trend will continue after. Seems unless there is some sort of demographic realignment Britain will essentially be a 1 party state moving forward, at least until Muslims reach some sort of demographic threshold they can form their own Islamist party to compete with Labour.

But for the short term I am sure Labour having no internal competition will work out well.

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09-03-2024 , 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunyain

Don't underestimate the ability of the left to divide itself (on this forum as well , many if not most leftists consider Labor too rightwing), or the fact that AFD got the highest share of voters among the under30 in recent local elections.

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09-03-2024 , 12:41 PM

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By definition all Leftists (not including libs) consider Labour far too right wing.

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09-03-2024 , 12:43 PM

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It wouldn't be hugely popular but really the UK needs to go to the IMF for a huge loan as it did in the mid 70s when it was also broke.

Otherwise the current period of austerity will extend from 14 to 19 years and beyond, with no guarantee it will end even then because this generation of politicians of all colours have no idea or no interest in the health of the country.

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