Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
British Politics British Politics

05-05-2024 , 07:55 PM
[YOUTUBE][https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=etgM5H62OLE&pp=ygUYbm90IHRoZSBhbmRyZXcgbWF yciBzaG93YOUTUBE]

Incredible video; I thought Galloway was just being opportunistic but his combined message of socialism, anti-war and anti-culture wars will resonate with a lot of people. He's selling an updated version of Corbynism. The thought of Corbyn and Livingston defecting to the workers party is tantalising. For balance, I would say that he needs to tone down the homophobia or at least pretend to do so.
British Politics Quote
05-05-2024 , 08:49 PM
Not going to happen

I'd recommend the full original interview to politics nerds
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 12:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doctor Zeus
Why would you look at it in % terms?
Why wouldn't you? Seems reasonable to view any statistic through a variety of prisms to get a feel for what the data might predict.
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 12:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trakk
I think people are more likely to vote for the smaller parties in local elections vs general election. Eg a bunch of people who voted Green will likely vote Labour in general election.
I agree, but the intention is there - why not just vote labour if you are satisfied with their offering?
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 03:32 AM
I would agree that it demonstrates a lack of enthusiasm for Labour.
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 04:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chezlaw
Not going to happen

I'd recommend the full original interview to politics nerds
Bastani AND Galloway together in the one video? I'd rather set fire to my router.
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 07:45 AM
Peoples Patriot's chauffeur parking his BMW in a disabled person's bay


British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 08:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Husker
Bastani AND Galloway together in the one video? I'd rather set fire to my router.
i listened to a good portion on it. he wants corbs to set up a new party, and for corbs to be the leader of a coalition of left wing parties including the galloway party

however, other than a bit of antisemitism they dont seem to have a lot in common. on social policy, corbyn is much closer to rishi sunak than he is galloway

i dont think the new left alliance is going to work out
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 09:12 AM
left alliance, lol. They can't even work together when in the same party.
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 10:02 AM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...eft-over-gaza/

Muslim group issues Starmer with demands to win back lost votes over Gaza

--Demographics is destiny. Your country is so ****ed.

--Thank god most of our immgrants dont view themselves as an outside group that only votes for their narrow group interests.
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 10:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunyain
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...eft-over-gaza/

Muslim group issues Starmer with demands to win back lost votes over Gaza

--Demographics is destiny. Your country is so ****ed.

--Thank god most of our immgrants dont view themselves as an outside group that only votes for their narrow group interests.
And that's when rightwing brexiters realized that kicking away white christians who hate muslims more than they do (eastern europeans), while keeping the brown muslims in, wasn't necessarily the smartest decision in their life according to their own preferences.
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 01:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BOIDS
i listened to a good portion on it. he wants corbs to set up a new party, and for corbs to be the leader of a coalition of left wing parties including the galloway party

however, other than a bit of antisemitism they dont seem to have a lot in common. on social policy, corbyn is much closer to rishi sunak than he is galloway

i dont think the new left alliance is going to work out
You’re doing the Lord’s work here. Fair play for enduring it.
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 02:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BOIDS
i listened to a good portion on it. he wants corbs to set up a new party, and for corbs to be the leader of a coalition of left wing parties including the galloway party

however, other than a bit of antisemitism they dont seem to have a lot in common. on social policy, corbyn is much closer to rishi sunak than he is galloway

i dont think the new left alliance is going to work out
Although Corbyn said in March that he 'hopes' to stand as an independent for Islington North in the GE, he hasn't declared himself. It would be a huge fillip for him if his personal vote held up and he won, but it would be a huge, humiliating, career-end downer if it did not hold up and he lost, and we don't yet know if he's got the bottle, having never faced a seriously contested or risky vote before in his entire life, always the son of the manor house taking his privileged position for granted, which probably explains a lot.
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 03:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elrazor
Why wouldn't you? Seems reasonable to view any statistic through a variety of prisms to get a feel for what the data might predict.
The way you used it doesnt work though

Labour started with more seats

Only the tories lost seats

It will always be muuuuch harder for them to increase in the same % terms as other parties regardless of anythng else
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunyain
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...eft-over-gaza/

Muslim group issues Starmer with demands to win back lost votes over Gaza

--Demographics is destiny. Your country is so ****ed.

--Thank god most of our immgrants dont view themselves as an outside group that only votes for their narrow group interests.
4.4% of the country
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 04:34 PM
Corbyn isn't an anti-semite and not supporting israeli apartheid and ethnic cleansing isn't anti-semitic either. Starmer and the tories are islamophobic for enabling israel.
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 04:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doctor Zeus
4.4% of the country
That was in 2011, it’s presumably a bit higher now. The “Muslim Vote” is smaller than the number of Muslims anyway though. It’s not a big deal, at least currently. It’s also only a thing at all because of current Gaza situation, hopefully that will change in the future.
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 04:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YellowBentines
Corbyn isn't an anti-semite and not supporting israeli apartheid and ethnic cleansing isn't anti-semitic either. Starmer and the tories are islamophobic for enabling israel.
Corbyn is heavily antisemite and not because of what is being said today, of what is happening today, but because of the atrocious terrorist supporters he endorsed as labour candidate when he was the leader of the party.

The history of far left antisemitism didn't start these days.
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 04:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trakk
That was in 2011, it’s presumably a bit higher now. The “Muslim Vote” is smaller than the number of Muslims anyway though. It’s not a big deal, at least currently. It’s also only a thing at all because of current Gaza situation, hopefully that will change in the future.
Yh fair enough

Muslims aren't a homogenous group anyway, although votes align on gaza.
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 05:03 PM
Straight from the horses mouth

British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 05:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YellowBentines
Straight from the horses mouth

The Labour party broke equalities law including harassment and discrimination over antisemitism in the party, an investigation by the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) has found.

In a long-awaited report, the EHRC said there were “serious failings in the Labour party leadership in addressing antisemitism and an inadequate process for handling antisemitism complaints”.

It said Labour under the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn was responsible for three breaches of the Equality Act, connected to harassment, political interference in antisemitism complaints and inadequate training for those handling the complaints.

The EHRC’s lead investigator, Alasdair Henderson, said the failure of leadership must ultimately stop with Corbyn. “As the leader of the party at the time, and given the extent of the failings we found in the political interference within the leader of the opposition’s office, Jeremy Corbyn is ultimately accountable and responsible for what happened at that time,” Henderson said.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...mitism-inquiry
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 05:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YellowBentines
Corbyn isn't an anti-semite and not supporting israeli apartheid and ethnic cleansing isn't anti-semitic either. Starmer and the tories are islamophobic for enabling israel.
They know where the votes are (apart from a small number of seats with significant Muslim populations).
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 05:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luciom
Corbyn is heavily antisemite and not because of what is being said today, of what is happening today, but because of the atrocious terrorist supporters he endorsed as labour candidate when he was the leader of the party.

The history of far left antisemitism didn't start these days.
stfu about things you know nothing about. Your endless proselytizing for fascist causes is obvious to anyone with functioning grey matter.
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 05:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jalfrezi
stfu about things you know nothing about. Your endless proselytizing for fascist causes is obvious to anyone with functioning grey matter.
The UK labour party was a relevant one in the EU parliament so as an european i monitored them, Corbyn was a true antisemite who spent political capital to let actual terrorist supporters enter parliament.

In the UK like everywhere else, the radical left caters to the worst people in society.
British Politics Quote
05-06-2024 , 05:29 PM
stfu you repetitive ranting fascist fool.
British Politics Quote

      
m