al-jalfrezi, your candidates won bigly these elections and more winning will come soon, what makes you so angry?

That's not my name, creepy fascist.

the kindest and most generous interpretation that i can come up with is that antisemitism got out of hand in the labour party while corbyn was leader, and his response was to pretend it wasnt happening. a policy he maintains to this day

That's not kind or generous. It's extremely biased. There was limited anti-semitism, mainly just historical tweets from little known party members. It got blown out of proportion by the state of israel and our gutter press. He's right not to accept responsibility because he didn't do anything himself and in political speak, apologising is different from accepting responsibility. The far right accusing people of racism is particularly galling since they're responsible for most of it. Johnson said veiled muslim women look like letterboxes. Direct racism from a party leader, excused because he's a cHaRaCtEr. Where was the media fury, inquiry or report into that?

he didn't kick the antisemitic monsters out of the party with shame and disgrace.

FYP

People who don't conform to his narrow minded world view make him angry - that's why so many people on here have blocked him.

1, I suggest you do the same
2, As a request, would you mind not quoting him so I and others here don't have to read his posts?

"So many" = "me and my fellow right wing extremist liar diebitter, 2+2s twin towers of ****."

It was kinda funny though in fairness.

Funny, if agreeing with Lucifer (which you've been doing a lot of recently) is funny to you.

Which is why he lost the whip, permanently. And he still won't say if he's going to stand as an independent, which would represent the kind of normal political risk that he's never had to take.

I'm sorry for finding al Jalfrezi funny. But I did. I haven't agreed with the specific politics of Lucifer, (which I also find funny if that makes you feel better) not lately or indeed ever. Lighten up fam.

the devil has all the best tunes

Oddly I was talkign about this long forgotten brexit poitn with someone earlier today

Some hopeful sentiment that just maybe could devlop a bit with a future labour government
https://www.politico.eu/article/cdu-...ium-eu-brexit/

I watched this through and thought it was pretty interesting, as I didn't know much of Galloway's views on anything other than Israel, and now I do.

Otoh, this interview was somewhat disappointing as they didn't push Liz Truss nearly enough on some of her answers.

Still, probably worth a listen for a PoV take on the collapse of the Tories.

her central claim is that the OBR is too left wing and doesn't sufficiently weigh tax cuts in its long term growth calculations blah blah, and that their leaked forecasts did her in

but i dont know why she is allowed to pretend that participants in the financial markets are duty-bound to agree with the OBR's analysis. they aren't. it was the OBR AND INFINITELY MORE IMPORTANTLY the markets that both thought you were full of **** love

i am more fascinated by liz truss than anything else in political history. there's a lot of hyperbole about politicians and how useless they are, "i wouldn't trust him to walk my dog" and so on, but with liz you can honestly and truthfully say that if she was working in a middle manager position at a large company she would not stand out among her peers. i will never understand how she became prime minister. the proximate cause is the tory membership, but how did she come to be placed in front of them as a candidate? how did she become foreign secretary?

How did someone as mediocre as John Major become FS, Chancellor and PM? Happenstance.

I disagree that Truss wouldn’t stand out in a group of middle managers. She’s clearly detached from reality but very good at maths, whereas middle managers are usually crap at maths and reasonably sane.

I agree with this analysis. You can say someone like Gove is a similar oddball who would likely not make a popular PM, but Gove is clearly a very capable politician and also an excellent orator.

However, Truss literally has no redeeming features as an individual. It was just weird and awkward watching her impersonate Thatcher while campaigning for the Tory leadership. And given everything that went on, not a hint of personal reflection or growth from the experience. For example, has she never considered that her failure to achieve anything as a minister was because she wasn't very good at the job, rather than some "deep state" conspiracy theory?

Truss believes in action and change. That distinguishes ger from typical middle managers. It's also why she got to be pm and why I wouldn't write her off.

I'd we don't want batty change then we better offer some good change because people aren't going to put up with the same old same old.

That’s right. The absolute last thing middle managers want and the thing they fear the most is change. Their job security and pensions depend on things not changing.

On the subject of fear, a clip of pre-referendum David Frost showing just how badly diebitter, ElRazor and many others were conned by a group of very obvious conmen and women:

I don't know why, but i listened to this too and it just solidified how ****ing delusional she is. So desperate for supply-side policies that she paid literally no care to their consequences while refusing to take any responsibility.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...o-labour-party

Conservative MP Natalie Elphicke defects to Labour party

"The Conservative MP for Dover has defected to the Labour party saying her former party has become “a byword for incompetence and division”."

rats...sinking ship...