I have a bunch of posts on the topic in the SMP thread where I've been critical of some of Billy's arguments and supportive of some others.

There are a lot of people who work in the medical profession in the United States. For example, there are 3 million people working as nurses in the United States. Needless to say, an absurdly high percentage of people in the United States personally know someone who works in the medical profession.

If you live in NYC, it's not like you have to rely on youtube to get first hand information from someone in the medical profession about what is going on in a heavily affected area. It's very likely that you know someone who works as a doctor, nurse, or whatever.

Sure. I have a cousin who is a nurse in the bay area. You're right that that isn't that hard. On the ground sources in Venezuela good luck with that outside of youtube unless you know Venezuelans.

I'm marking you down as "definitely maybe" on flat Earthism.

I guess it's kinda to be expected with a completely new virus--but it's wild how much info from those kinda sources varies. Info from yt has its place and there is def. some useful stuff(just in general)--but for the most part I'm defaulting to the actual doctors I've known+trust for ages

When I see some dude saying--it's all fake!! And then I talk to a buddy I've known since we were kids and he tells me we got a 160cases currently and 40 on vents--****'s critical--well I believe him.

Yeah, same, I guess... had a quick look in SMP out of morbid curiosity but didn't find the thread... didn't look too hard to be honest. I love how we're all automatically supposed to know wtf Billy is though, and what he argues for or against.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/4...thread-745446/
The stuff about how gas molecules know (intuitively?) to orbit faster as altitude increases seems like good stuff. But I studied linguistics.

Exactly. And yeah, I guess I would have to cast the net more broadly if I wanted first hand information about Venezuela, seeing as I am not personal friends with any Venezuelans who work in the medical profession.

It makes sense. Aristotle and Archimedes thought the earth was a sphere. But most modern psy-ops trace their roots to Aristotle. I'll leave it to you to connect the dots.

I know a girl who is the editor for an independent weekly but I'm not too close with her and haven't talked to her or seen her in a long time. It's hardly an MSM outlet though and beyond her and I don't know anybody.
But if your point is that the msm is always truthful or something then lol. For the most part I agree with your premise that the lies aren't deliberate and it's more just parroting official sources.

Or the attention, or trolling, or whatever. The notion that someone with lower stakes has no ulterior motive is silly.

Unless you have a friend living at the edge of the world, how could you even know if the Earth is flat or not.

Let's take a specific example, the Washington Post. I think the Post sometimes gets things wrong. Often it's because of information gaps or lack of understanding. Sometimes it's because sources are mistaken or unreliable. Less frequently, it's a product of the bias of the specific journalist. It is almost never because reporters are inventing facts or sources. It is almost never because of overt pressure from the editorial board or ownership.

In fact, I would guess that reporters at the Washington Post would say that they have a considerable amount of freedom in their reporting, and that the editorial board and ownership depend pretty heavily on the reporters to do their jobs without being micromanaged.

In sum, I don't think testimony from reporters at the Washington Post would support in any way your beliefs about a top-down media conspiracy or media complicity in psy-ops.

Washington Post is billionaire owned garbage.

Yeah, that's not a rebuttal to what I wrote. I'm well aware of who owns the Washington Post. Replace the Washington Post with the NYT, LA Times, the FT, if it makes it easier for you.

All billionaire owned garbage
But you didn't really write anything other than guessing that reporters feel like they aren't controlled.

The reporters really should be the foremost authorities about their own states of mind. And I'm not entirely guessing about what they would say, although my information obviously is anecdotal. I haven't done a survey or anything.

Actually--FT is quite a bit better than the others because they'll often times say the quiet parts out loud. Which makes them less garbagey.

Really? I don't recall the FT ever admitting to participating in a psy-op, but I certainly could have missed it.

Your posts are getting worse and worse fwiw. Try to address my actual posts.
Here is an example of what I mean
https://www.ft.com/content/7a03e5b6-...6-000077b07658

My understanding is that The Flat Earth Society has members all over the globe.

I can't really speak for how much editorial control there is at WaPo. That would be just plain conjecture on my part. But I am familiar with The Washington Post. I read articles they write and I compare them with articles from other sources.

The propaganda/bias is mainly in their phrasing and more importantly their omissions. If a detail in a case doesn't support the preferred narrative, often it isn't included at all, or it is buried in the story when the story has cooled down. This is extremely reliably demonstrated.

Also, I frankly I consider a lot of your approach to my arguments as gaslighting. Which you should take as a compliment in a way. I am giving you credit for realizing there is a VERY big difference from reporting on a pertinent (but inconvenient) detail on Day 5 of a story and burying it at that, and reporting on that fact immediately and right up front when the story is hot. And I think you also can also appreciate the difference from when the media decides to advance a story and when they report on it initially and let it lie fallow.

I think where a disconnect may genuinely lie between you and I is you don't think media has as much power and influence as I do. You think stories will live and die on some intrinsic ability to generate interest (or outside force other than the media), and you don't think media has as much active control over making a story as I do.

I'm sure that must be an old one, but I've never heard it before, and I found it hilarious

It's an oldie.

So new video's over a longer period of time show all sorts of people coming and going from the same property and house just to look around, including a third of what appears to be Arboury coming and going. The owner says again, with all the visits, nothing was stolen.

It seems Arboury was the only one the McMicheals suspected was robbing the place. Not any of the others who came and went.