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Well, unless you expect us to believe that Diego Perez was a “racist white redneck”, it proves that it wasn’t just “racist white rednecks” who were the only ones saying that property had been stolen. It proves that there was the McMichaels weren’t lying when they talked about prior trespassing and theft. It proves that neighbors had a reason to go after the people who had been trespassing/stealing from the neighborhood. It proves that other people wanted to go after the trespassers as well. It basically proves the entire narrative that was initially presented is absolute bullshit and was race baiting nonsense. The heck out of here with that “racist white rednecks just wanted to target black a black jogger!” nonsense.

05-14-2020 , 09:11 PM

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I'm sure that the old droolers who watch Fox are big internet news readers

05-14-2020 , 09:16 PM

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yeah it definitely doesnt prove that "neighbors had a reason to go after the people who had been trespassing/stealing from the neighborhood".

and it also doesn't prove that they had any reasonable belief it was specifically arbery. hell, none of your story even says that the previous reports alleged it was an African American that was supposedly trespassing.

05-14-2020 , 09:33 PM

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The videos have been released.

05-14-2020 , 09:37 PM

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[QUOTE=d2_e4;56124149]Pretty sure that racist black rednecks are not a thing, so you don't need to keep saying "racist white redneck".

As for the rest of that, you got a cite for any of it? Not saying it's not true, but, you know, trust but verify and all that.

[/https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/05/13/video-shows-person-at-construction-site-12-days-before-ahmaud-arberys-death/%3foutputType=amp

05-14-2020 , 09:50 PM

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Pretty sure that racist black rednecks are not a thing, so you don't need to keep saying "racist white redneck".

As for the rest of that, you got a cite for any of it? Not saying it's not true, but, you know, trust but verify and all that.

[/https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/05/13/video-shows-person-at-construction-site-12-days-before-ahmaud-arberys-death/%3foutputType=amp

Hahhahhahaha, wtf narrative do you think that supports?

Since you're not too up on the interenets, here's the link you meant to post:

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/...arberys-death/

And yeah, you're obviously a moron. Just watch that video and read the story, and pretend the dude was white.

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05-14-2020 , 09:59 PM

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If we pretend the dude is white, is there even a story? “White man who may have been burglarizing the neighborhood runs went confronted after trespassing onto neighbor’s property. He then gets into a physical altercation with another man, punches him in the face, tries to take his weapon, and is shot.”

05-14-2020 , 10:14 PM

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Let's just conveniently leave out the fact that he was essentially hunted, and the "altercation" was him acting in self defence, shall we?

The "story" is not that it happened. It's that nobody got charged until there was a social media outcry.

Here is another heartwarming redneck tale for you - in this case, a father and son shot their neighbour, a white guy, over some neighbourly dispute. They were arrested straight away and charged with murder, despite protestations of "stand your ground". Also on video!

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/l...230347539.html

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05-14-2020 , 10:16 PM

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In my area, it is common for kids to be taught in school how to distinguish reliable sources of information from unreliable sources of information. Not surprisingly, that instruction encourages students to be skeptical about information that they find on random youtubz, blogs, etc., if they cannot validate the information through publications that are more widely regarded as reliable.

Luckbox, joe, and Kelhus, do you object to this sort of instruction? I'm guessing the answers will be:

Luckbox -- Hell yes!
joe -- If students are told that Trump and Fox are at the top of the pyramid of reliability, then no. Otherwise, I'm with Luckbox!
Kelhus -- If the instruction was non-biased, I'd probably be OK with it. But I know without even asking that this is just another way to indoctrinate young minds into relying on liberal MSM like the NYT.

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No source is completely reliable. I think students should be taught to question narratives, characterizations, and naked assertions.

They should be taught to question the "official reliable sources" the most. Everything else they should be taught to think critically about as itshot suggests.

05-14-2020 , 10:20 PM

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LB,

did Ahmaud actually die in your opinion or was this a complete fictitious scene? I have my opinions.

05-14-2020 , 10:22 PM

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LB,

did Ahmaud actually die in your opinion or was this a complete fictitious scene? I have my opinions.

He does look a bit like Denzel. And we know Denzel can act, coz he won that oscar. Coincidence? You decide.

05-14-2020 , 10:28 PM

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The only HS teachers I can remember trying to do stuff like that were off in the non-science/math classes like history and social studies etc. Of course, there's a certain segment that wants to eradicate those classes because it's a bunch of librul mumbo jumbo or whatever

05-14-2020 , 10:31 PM

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He wasn’t “just essentially hunted”. There had been significant crime in the neighborhood recently, despite what you try to claim. The person/people also looked incredibly similar to Arbery. He was pursued while fleeing from a property he was trespassing on. Not that surprising at all. He then chose to run TOWARD the person with the firearm and attack him. Terrible decision. Trying to paint this unfortunate situation as some premeditated racist murder is incredibly ignorant.

05-14-2020 , 10:40 PM

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For the size of the town/surrounding area a handful of car break-ins/theft and some trespassing in a neighborhood doesn't sound like 'significant crime' it sounds pretty minor really. Almost guaranteed if the neighbors were all making reports the cops probably would've increased their attention some. Squeaky wheel gets the grease

A far better alternative than looking to ambush people over low-level crimes--that's how situations exactly like this happen.

05-14-2020 , 10:48 PM

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A far better alternative than looking to ambush people over low-level crimes--that's how situations exactly like this happen.

Pretty minor? Nearly everyone involved in this situation was a victim of recent graft theft (including theft of firearms) and/or or had multiple trespassing incidents. The heck are you talking about?

05-14-2020 , 10:54 PM

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He wasn’t “just essentially hunted”. There had been significant crime in the neighborhood recently, despite what you try to claim.

Source for bolded please.

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The person/people also looked incredibly similar to Arbery.

Real or onion?

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He was pursued while fleeing from a property he was trespassing on. Not that surprising at all.

Source for bolded please.

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He then chose to run TOWARD the person with the firearm and attack him. Terrible decision. Trying to paint this unfortunate situation as some premeditated racist murder is incredibly ignorant.

Bwahaha. He was boxed in by 2 cars, dickhead. He was fighting for his life. You know who the second car was? The guy taking the video.

The only thing incredibly ignorant round here is you.

05-14-2020 , 10:59 PM

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You want me to research and source every basic fact of the case for your lazy, low IQ ass?

05-14-2020 , 10:59 PM

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Pretty minor? Nearly everyone involved in this situation was a victim of recent graft theft (including theft of firearms) and/or or had multiple trespassing incidents. The heck are you talking about?

Yes, that is minor crime my man. In the last 10yrs I've had a nearly brand new set of mizunos, a MacBook Pro, an iPad stolen out of my vehicles. And that's just off the top of my head--there's definitely more a couple of my kid's mountain bikes etc--countless piles of quarters from the center console

The weirdest? a nice set of chains and a case of delo out of my truck??wtf? At no point did I start planning revenge--about all I did was start locking my doors until I inevitably start forgetting again

edit--forgot the quad at my cabin

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05-14-2020 , 11:05 PM

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LB,

did Ahmaud actually die in your opinion or was this a complete fictitious scene? I have my opinions.

I can honestly state that the only thing I've seen on this story outside of this thread is something a friend of mine posted on Instagram about the need for justice.
You did turn me onto the Amber Guyger stuff though so stuff of this nature being fake is definitely possible. But I have no idea.

05-14-2020 , 11:05 PM

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Wait a sec and think about what you just did. You just took all of the major thefts that you’ve experienced over the last 10 YEARS. We’re talking about multiple people who have experienced grand theft over a matter of weeks or just like 2 months...who all happened to live within like 0.1-0.2 miles from each other.

05-14-2020 , 11:14 PM

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I operate on the assumption that people go thru neighborhoods pretty much every single night checking door handles etc--because that's basically reality. Those ~7 break-ins are probably off by a zero or 2 or whatever in that town/it's surrounding area every night. You can mitigate a lot of it by locking your doors--not leaving the garage door hanging open

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05-14-2020 , 11:21 PM

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LDLC I don’t know you but please check your privilege against the Pyramid shared previously in the thread.

05-14-2020 , 11:27 PM

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You just took all of the major thefts that you’ve experienced over the last 10 YEARS.

lol If only that were actually true.

05-14-2020 , 11:28 PM

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What are you talking about right now? That’s absolutely not true. Grand theft isn’t nearly as common as you’re pretending. The average person isn’t having expensive things stolen from the cars or homes every few weeks like these men have.

05-14-2020 , 11:35 PM

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That doesn't make what I wrote untrue. Obviously the jackpots where they find the combo unlocked car door+expensive item is lower. Doesn't change that that general type of crime in Incredibly common all over the place.

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