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i've never heard of this.

i'd prefer michelle over biden pretty readily, and i think that michelle would wafflecrush any republican nominee. is there something in her politics that i'm missing? or are you saying republicans think they could beat the black woman more easily?

the idea that she would run for no labels is obviously dumb. no labels is about electing trump president, i think anyone with a brain can see that.

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07-18-2023 , 10:20 AM

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These polls mostly reflect some level of Kennedy name recognition, some level of concern about Biden's age and a lack of familiarity among low-info voters of RFK Jr.'s most extreme crackpottery. That's about it.

If Biden were struck by lightning tomorrow and the Democrats held an open primary, RFK Jr still would be drawing stone dead.

yeah. i dont check the politics betting market, but im pretty sure i heard Newsome recently had better betting odds than desantis to be president in 2024, let alone over kennedy..

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07-18-2023 , 10:26 AM

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I mostly agree. You’re leaving out the conspiracy-minded who have a very good understanding of his opinion.

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07-18-2023 , 10:29 AM

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The right-wing fascination with Michelle Obama running for office never ceases to amaze.

Right-wing people mentioning Michelle Obama now are doing so only because it is too late for her to run and they are 100% certain that she is not going to run.

Two years ago, the possibility of her running was more a source of trepidation on the right wing than fascination.

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07-18-2023 , 10:30 AM

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I mostly agree. You’re leaving out the conspiracy-minded who have a very good understanding of his opinion.

Yes. That group also.

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07-18-2023 , 10:37 AM

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The right-wing fascination with Michelle Obama running for office never ceases to amaze.

In your mind what makes someone right wing ?

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07-18-2023 , 10:47 AM

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yeah. i dont check the politics betting market, but im pretty sure i heard Newsome recently had better betting odds than desantis to be president in 2024, let alone over kennedy..

The left wing MSM has been executing a fairly aggressive Newsom positive PR campaign for a few weeks now. IMO they are definitely test running how the general population responds to the PR, to gauge his possible electability in 2024.

Again, no way they do this if there wasn't serious concerns about Biden running and/or winning in 2024.

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07-18-2023 , 10:49 AM

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The right-wing fascination with Michelle Obama running for office never ceases to amaze.

In truth, most of the right wing fascination around Michelle Obama seems to be whether or not she has a penis or is involved in child-sex trafficking.

Note: I am not claiming there is any evidence either is true. I am just noting if you go to a random right wing account and they are talking about Michelle Obama it is much more likely to be on these topics than anything relating to actual politics.

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07-18-2023 , 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

The right-wing fascination with Michelle Obama running for office never ceases to amaze.

man, I see twitter and message boards full of Dems hoping she runs.

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07-18-2023 , 11:08 AM

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In your mind what makes someone right wing ?

It's mostly all guilt-by-association for him.... seriously.

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07-18-2023 , 11:16 AM

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I did some cardio at the gym the other day and tuned unto the cnn TV when they were talking about Kennedy the anchor asked some nobody why Kennedy has 20% or w/e support and the dude specifically said " well that 20% doesn't yet realize that he's insane" I thought that was a rather strong take for cnn.

The dude has no chance but I can't imagine cnn going hard against him hurts his chances at all with how things roll these days.

20% isn’t very high given only 2 people running for the Dem nomination are being covered by the media. Virtually anybody with name recognition can get 20% heads up vs anybody else.

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07-18-2023 , 11:37 AM

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20% isn’t very high given only 2 people running for the Dem nomination are being covered by the media. Virtually anybody with name recognition can get 20% heads up vs anybody else.

3 if you count Williamson, who isn't that far behind Kennedy.

No one is enthusiastic about Biden and no mainstream contender has appeared yet; fringe none-of-the-above dipshits like RFK are obviously going to have a fun little moment before losing the primary.

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07-18-2023 , 11:40 AM

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fringe none-of-the-above dipshits

This is an excellent description of both RFK and Marianne Williamson.

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07-18-2023 , 11:53 AM

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RFK is openly anti-vax and racist, so ofc he’s getting buzz from the No Labels astroturfers out there.

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07-18-2023 , 12:10 PM

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If Biden were struck by lightning tomorrow and the Democrats held an open primary, RFK Jr still would be drawing stone dead.

I made this exact comment a month or so ago. At that point RFK was higher in the betting market and is still at about 11 to 1. Newsome was laughably low then.

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07-18-2023 , 12:20 PM

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20% isn’t very high given only 2 people running for the Dem nomination are being covered by the media. Virtually anybody with name recognition can get 20% heads up vs anybody else.

Sure, but he was close to 20% at one point to win the whole enchilada on the largest betting markets. It was quite strange. It either means that all the hype and the polling #s is enough to sway the lines to a ridiculous degree imo, or he does have a chance.

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07-18-2023 , 12:28 PM

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In your mind what makes someone right wing ?

Enthusiastic support for the No Labels party is a strong leading indicator.

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07-18-2023 , 12:29 PM

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Can Americans bet on this? I’ll back up the truck shorting RFK at 20% if there’s a market for it, good lord.

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07-18-2023 , 12:35 PM

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His odds have come down quite a bit. He's 13 to 1 to win the election and about 8 to 1 to win the nom.

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07-18-2023 , 12:51 PM

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Can Americans bet on this? I’ll back up the truck shorting RFK at 20% if there’s a market for it, good lord.

Yeah predictit was going to close but didn't.

Except he's at .11c

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07-18-2023 , 01:09 PM

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8-1 to win the nomination is hilarious. the odds are zero. even if a nuclear bomb hit DC during the state of the union he would not be the nominee.

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07-18-2023 , 01:13 PM

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In your mind what makes someone right wing ?

Posts like this are a pretty good indicator:

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Sadly I am not right wing but not left anymore. I heard a term that may be me a Barstool Conservative

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Hey if I had to pick someone to lead the no labels party my ticket would be

Matthew McConaughy and Michele Obama

Tens of millions of people to choose from, and you pick Matthew McConaughy because?? And did you mix up the order, or would it actually be your intent to put MM ahead of MO? And then my final thought would be, I had no idea you were such a big Trump supporter - putting together a popular left/center team is just punching Trump's ticket.