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07-17-2023 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
Plan by who? Is there some reason to believe that RFK is either in on the scheme or under the mind control of some other group.
Other than his family connections, not that I'm aware of, but the family connections are sufficient.
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07-17-2023 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Other than his family connections, not that I'm aware of, but the family connections are sufficient.
Family connections to whom?
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07-17-2023 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Family connections to whom?
To the Kennedy family, obviously.
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07-17-2023 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
To the Kennedy family, obviously.
RFK is suspicious to you because he’s connected to other members of his family?
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07-17-2023 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
Are you surprised by anything he has said in the last six months? It all seems to be completely on brand for him.
I have not had the opportunity to hear everything he says he has been everywhere from Rogan to Bill Maher . Anyone that will listen to him . As for his stand on Vaccines it amazes me that the doctor refused to debate him on Rogan for a huge donation to charity. It amazes me how everyone now thinks Pfizer and the pharmaceutical companies have our best interest at heart . I did listen to his town hall on News Nation

I think sone of his positions on the border and handling the opioid crisis are intriguing . I am very curious about his statement that there was a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia that involved giving Crimea to Russia which they already had and the Dondask region not sure who got that

I agree with him on Nato and why Putin invaded Ukraine. Though I think NATO needs to go through some serious changes as well . I think some countries membership should be suspended and possibly a few kicked out but thats me going off topic
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07-17-2023 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
RFK is suspicious to you because he’s connected to other members of his family?
Why is that a problem?

If some Bush family member ran for president would you give them the benefit of the doubt?
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07-17-2023 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Why is that a problem?

If some Bush family member ran for president would you give them the benefit of the doubt?
Lucky, you understand that literally everyone has a family connection to members of their immediate family, right?
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07-17-2023 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Lucky, you understand that literally everyone has a family connection to members of their immediate family, right?
Is your issue with what I said one of substance or one of semantics?

Yes everyone has a family connection to members of their immediate family.

However, not everyone is a Kennedy.
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07-17-2023 , 02:43 PM
Lucky, you’re suggesting that a Kennedy has suspicious family connections to the Kennedys. It’s like actually not suspicious at all?
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07-17-2023 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Lucky, you’re suggesting that a Kennedy has suspicious family connections to the Kennedys. It’s like actually not suspicious at all?
No. Read what I wrote again.
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07-17-2023 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
He really shouldn't be, because you're absolutely correct that this is all 100% on brand for RFK over the last few years at least. But sadly, lozen pushing a 'media won't cover poor RFK' and 'No Labels Party should run RFK' position for the last month or two in spite of RFK's well-known lunacy is pretty on brand as well.
Lol I'm hard pressed to think of any presidential candidate that has gotten more undeserved attention than Kennedy. It's not even an open nomination, he has no chance and he is getting more attention than people like Tim Scott or Nicki Haley, who maybe also have no chance, but at least somewhat mirror the values of their party and are running for an open seat. People ran against Trump for the nomination in 2020 and I would bet a ton of money anyone dumb enough to think Kennedy isn't being covered couldn't even tell who those people's name.
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07-17-2023 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
Lol I'm hard pressed to think of any presidential candidate that has gotten more undeserved attention than Kennedy. It's not even an open nomination, he has no chance and he is getting more attention than people like Tim Scott or Nicki Haley, who maybe also have no chance, but at least somewhat mirror the values of their party and are running for an open seat. People ran against Trump for the nomination in 2020 and I would bet a ton of money anyone dumb enough to think Kennedy isn't being covered couldn't even tell who those people's name.
Well he is polling at 17% and high as 20% The only candidate other than Trump, Biden and Desantis are polling above that. I think the next highest polling is Mariane Williamson The MSNBC and CNN are pretty much ignoring RFK as the goal is to elect Biden Other than that he is getting a ton of coverage as he will speak to anybody

Wasn't that why Trump was successful the first time as he never mirrored the party values?

Of course RFK will never get the nomination the DNC would never allow it to happen just as they would never allow Bernie to be the nominee in 2016. They will also do anything to quash the No Labels party.
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07-18-2023 , 07:25 AM
Trump is campaigning to establish a presidential dictatorship

Trump for Dictator or Biden for President- pick one.

plans by Donald Trump to remove any and all obstacles to his power in a potential second term




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07-18-2023 , 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Well he is polling at 17% and high as 20% The only candidate other than Trump, Biden and Desantis are polling above that. I think the next highest polling is Mariane Williamson The MSNBC and CNN are pretty much ignoring RFK as the goal is to elect Biden Other than that he is getting a ton of coverage as he will speak to anybody

Wasn't that why Trump was successful the first time as he never mirrored the party values?

Of course RFK will never get the nomination the DNC would never allow it to happen just as they would never allow Bernie to be the nominee in 2016. They will also do anything to quash the No Labels party.
What poll has him at 20%?
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07-18-2023 , 08:39 AM
The most blatantly partisan poster here getting excited over the No Labels party says interesting things about the No Labels guys and their politics.
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07-18-2023 , 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
What poll has him at 20%?
About 6-8 weeks ago he was polling at 20% I do think he has settled in around 17%. Though he may fall more with his latest views

I am very excited to see who the No Labels runs as the choice of Biden and Trump are just not great for America . Hey if I had to pick someone to lead the no labels party my ticket would be

Matthew McConaughy and Michele Obama

Though for a party that spouts democracy and how the GOP is always trying to restrict folks from voting everything the dems are doing to stop No Labels is disgusting. Here is an idea run a better candidate


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The most blatantly partisan poster here getting excited over the No Labels party says interesting things about the No Labels guys and their politics.
I am assuming your referring to me whom am I partisan to?
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07-18-2023 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Though for a party that spouts democracy and how the GOP is always trying to restrict folks from voting everything the dems are doing to stop No Labels is disgusting.
Support for voter rights and support for easy third party ballot access are two very different things. To my knowledge, neither major political party in the US has ever supported the latter.
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07-18-2023 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
About 6-8 weeks ago he was polling at 20% I do think he has settled in around 17%. Though he may fall more with his latest views

I am very excited to see who the No Labels runs as the choice of Biden and Trump are just not great for America . Hey if I had to pick someone to lead the no labels party my ticket would be

Matthew McConaughy and Michele Obama

Though for a party that spouts democracy and how the GOP is always trying to restrict folks from voting everything the dems are doing to stop No Labels is disgusting. Here is an idea run a better candidate


I am assuming your referring to me whom am I partisan to?

Do you have a link to this poll?
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07-18-2023 , 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Well he is polling at 17% and high as 20%
And what percent chance of winning in the election do you think this corresponds to?
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07-18-2023 , 09:43 AM
I'm finding double digit approval ratings for RFK, but the only polling I'm seeing on who people will vote for has him at ~9% in June.
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07-18-2023 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ganstaman
And what percent chance of winning in the election do you think this corresponds to?
0.05%
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07-18-2023 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
As for his stand on Vaccines it amazes me that the doctor refused to debate him on Rogan for a huge donation to charity.
This amazes you? I would never do this if I were a specialist in the field. Zero chance.
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07-18-2023 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I'm finding double digit approval ratings for RFK, but the only polling I'm seeing on who people will vote for has him at ~9% in June.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...tion-8171.html

He is shockingly in the teens for the nomination. Will be interesting to see if the anti-semitic remarks hurt him in future polls.
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07-18-2023 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubble_Balls
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...tion-8171.html

He is shockingly in the teens for the nomination. Will be interesting to see if the anti-semitic remarks hurt him in future polls.
These polls mostly reflect some level of Kennedy name recognition, some level of concern about Biden's age and a lack of familiarity among low-info voters of RFK Jr.'s most extreme crackpottery. That's about it.

If Biden were struck by lightning tomorrow and the Democrats held an open primary, RFK Jr still would be drawing stone dead.
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07-18-2023 , 10:11 AM
The right-wing fascination with Michelle Obama running for office never ceases to amaze.
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