As much as you keep wanting to blame the Democrats for a Republican issue, the answer to your question of who the believe its murder people will vote for is a candidate that is fully anti-abortion in the primaries, so in many areas a Republican that follows your advice will be primaried and out of work.

The problem for republicans is how it came to be that the party opposed abortions.

In the 1970's a political party sprang up across the US called the "Right to Life" party. It started costing Republicans close elections vs Democrats by winning 5% to 10% of Statewide votes. So the Republican party absorbed the Right to Life party but there was no national announcement of exactly what was agreed.

All of a sudden the entire Republican party refused to support Birth Control methods (including pills, IUDs, condoms, etc.). The party opposed any Sex education that wasn't entirely about abstinence. All this was done to cater to the former Right to Life party members who were also opposed to premarital sex and birth control (likely for religious reasons)

But now it puts them in a tricky bind. If they agree to 14 or 15 weeks for abortions across the country, the Right to Lifers will likely re-form as a party whose intention is solely to eliminate abortion which they consider murder. Or they will just abandon the Republican party.

The other problem for Pro-lifers is that trying to validate life starting at conception means that Abortion Doctors cannot be the only ones held accountable for "murder". All women who plan and get abortions would essentially be guilty of premeditated murder. That wouldn't sit well with a vast majority of the country so instead Pro-Lifers have let it go (oddly even when in 2015 Trump said that pregnant women should get punished if they get an abortion and then had to quickly walk it back).

I think your point is probably a decent one if they settle on like 15 weeks and allow women who are in physical danger to get abortions (as well as if the potential child would be still born or severely medically incapacitated at birth). But I doubt that will happen. It would rip the Republican party apart.

I think they just won't vote if that were to happen. Even if a small percentage of republicans stay home across the nation then you have dems taking the house/senate/white house for sure.

But I cannot happen since the elected republicans are adamantly pro life so I doubt they would do it themselves. I think that if you had big time people in the republican party having a meeting with dem leadership for a grand abortion compromise you would have instant backlash from very important people in the republican party and influential outside groups.

Parties and the government are not run by small groups of people. No one can decide to turn on a dime and change the nature of these parties or the voters.

Michelle O looking good at +3300

She’s totally irrelevant but obviously gets your juices flowing, so much so that you felt you needed to make this post. Tell us more about what you think, but let it ALL out. Don’t be politically correct. Give us your true thoughts on why MichelleObama matters.

The rightwing fascination with Michelle Obama running for president fascinates me.

You know the Desantis campaign is not going well when he's at the same odds as an anti vaxer running for the Dem nomination and a Hindu running for the republican nomination.

I think the Hindu dude is one of the more honest folks out there. Desantis is the new Scott Walker

That reflects poorly on Vivek since you're one of the most dishonest posters on this forum.

To the Americans following this:

- Any chance Trump goes to prison from these indictments before the election?

- Will a Trump prison sentence create a country wide riot?

You're a weird poster.

But yeah eventually she's going to seek national office. It could be Senate first. It has nothing to do with her "mattering".

I made the comment because the lines were posted, obviously.

Yes, there is a chance he goes to prison. My theory has been that trump will delay this until after the election. I think he has good reason to do that. These are complicated cases with a lot of documents. He has a right to fully prepare for his trials. The right to a speedy trial is the right of the defendant, not the state. So the judges should allow him the time he needs to prepare.

This is all made more difficult by trump violating pretrial orders and potentially getting sent to jail to await trial if he keeps threatening witnesses. We'll find out more about that one tomorrow, i think.

No, there will be no country wide riots. I could see some violence and some bullshit. But the military will not be called in to quell any riots or **** like that. They will piss and moan a lot, but the the trump coalition is lazy and stupid. There is no depth of leadership to do such a thing.

the irony of Dem supporter saying "Democracy is on the ballot" is pretty funny

I am not at all convinced the bolded is correct. She has been pretty adamant that she doesn't want to run for office.

The obligation of a speedy trial is the state's obligation. But on the flip side, as a defendant, you don't have the right to whatever amount of delay suits your personal interest.

Trump's attorney said it took three years for the government to prepare their case so we should get three years to prepare ours.

yeah. this

the former prez will have his day in court and, if convicted, R voters will have full transparency heading into their nomination cycle as they decide wtf to do

Well were all entitled to an opinion .

We all know that Joe guy is an honest fella

Many people forget that . The man is charged in three states and soon a fourth and we expect him to be ready when one of them involves massive amounts of classified documents.
Could they be ready Im sure they could will they be ready not a chance .

His only hope is winning the election .

Your opinion on Biden is worthless because you lie on this forum all the time.

True true. Now I'm just a humble small time country lawyer, but I've seen many many smaller cases take years to get to trial for a multitude of reasons. So I think it they want to delay they can

Again that’s your opinion I make mistakes and admit them. Feel free to point them out and I’ll correct and apologize unlike some posters here like Trolly and Monterey who continually lie.
Though I get why folks think that as I don’t buy your ideology’s and think Joe Biden and Justin Trudeau are great

Lazyn, feel free to link some lies I made. You will not, because you cannot. Does not mean I am always right, but I do not fabricate stuff like you do. You make up/lie about stuff all the time, but to your minor credit - I think you believe a good chunk of the stuff when you spew it, because you are the target demographic of the alt right content machine in the sense that they capture you and convert you. Look at how your vaccine beliefs have changed over the years from lukewarm supporter to all out anti-vaxxer. Yeah, you had some vaccines years ago, but Lucky makes the same claim because he had a travel related one once, and you think that guy is really pro vaccines as a result? In contrast to your approach, other anti-science people here who make stuff up (like that Brian guy) charge hard into his lies, whereas you often get drawn into them by others who tell you what you want to hear and believe and then you form your own inaccurate take on it, and share it.

To give some examples, you make stuff up even on weird, nonsensical things, like telling people they need to get their 7th booster, or when you spend a couple months obsessing on how much you claimed I liked the TV show "The View" when I and probably most other posters here never watched it. Those are weird lies you generate, and you do it a lot, while many of the others are things you misrepresent with one of your whatabouts or are fooled by and then share (you get corrected all the time on stuff like that in the Canada thread for instance).

There you go, feel free to give some specific examples of my lies to back your claim, with links to really prove it. Good luck. Perhaps you can finish the work of that fringy wannabe communist promised that never delivered over the years by providing even a single link showing that I was in fact a Trumpderp here. He claimed that at the time probably as often you went on about how much I watch "The View."

All the best.

Well as for the booster comment what are we on now the 5th booster in my country for some. So a 7th booster by the new year is not unreal that is not a lie but a prediction were some folks will be.

The View thing of course is just a reply to you saying anyone with an opinion other than a leftist opinion is a derp of the right wing media

Corrected on what in the Canada thread. I even not put warning labels on opinion pieces for you

Though to be honest you seem to participate more in the conversation that just use the right wing derp thing

Sorry if I believe Justin Trudeau is as corrupt as Donald Trump and I just dont think the Democrats actually care about the poor and middle class