Hello,

Wow you really are deluded, Can any rep here suspend this guys comments in this thread. I am mean serious not only do you get your money back here but you will get a extra 25% /50%, Is this guy for real? You no lock just went bust and lost with around 15m off players money ? Jen still lives the high life and I paying for nothing, This is going the same way as WinCake and the revolution network It's quite as simple as that.

ONCE AGAIN ,

You CAN NOT take any off the gaming operators to any court ! They are untouchable and they no it. All we can hope for is a Italian site or/Intertops/Juicy sakes to buy /take over the running off the network. That is the only chance we have left.

Can I ask you a simple question? what makes you really deluded to think you can get extra 25/50% money back from WinCake when thy have not payed players for over a year ( or very few cash outs ) with the balances they have.

Matt

Just ignore this Kopogero guy... I can't believe someone is still debating with him... He is just messing around...

I just jump to the next post when i see his name.

wait, so cake don't pay people? How are these sites still operational and accepting new players and deposits??

Is it the same for intertops?

No, Intertops is primarily a sports betting site and has always paid out people in a very timely manner even during the pet time of the Lock fiasco on the network.

Hello,

Just be aware that intertops has ZERO traffic , they do not any tables above nl 200 that they share with the rest off the network.

Matt

They don't have huge traffic but zero is equally wrong. Please stick to facts.

Global online poker market has been decreasing rapidly over the last years and if you do some searching you will all understand why.

There is a reason why most professional player that are not heavily sponsored go live.

Hello,

Yes I stand corrected. You're right.

Matt

Update:

After reporting this to the authorities in my country they found my issue having not sufficient evidence to be a victim of a crime. As you can see this issue goes deeper as though and if any victim caught up in this wants to see justice delivered as well as their $ it's up to them if they want to be judge, jury and executioners to whoever feel is responsible for putting them in this position.

Regards~

Is there anyone that recieved a single penny from Wincake lately? Or did they just stop paying out altogether? I know it's sad but having 50k on there makes me look for every single bit of positivism

Maybe wincake would be willing to buy it? Was looking for marketplace if anyone sells or buys but couldnt find anything. Maybe someone is willing to pay up to .25, who has more need for it, depending on how far behind one is from the limit where one would like to play at but dont have the roll for it, needing to grind it up there. I am just a couple hundred short and would not pay more than .15 for 1k semi monopoly money.

I can imagine that wincake could easily pay .50 if they can afford it, if one asks them, if anyone there can and is willing to make such decisions. I could also imagine that juicy might be willing to buy it, with their rake minimum rules, as they did buy their usa players monopoly money from wincake if i know it right.

Maybe some other room would be willing to but getting 50% rb for it on this network isnt enough, but in the lock case as it wasnt in the same network anymore. I would take 75% rakeback as a year or so lasting bonus as big as my cake roll. For lesser rolls mainly, that would be possibly about all pending and maybe so players if they also get some deal.

Getting wincake and co partly out of the problem, especially if they email their pending customers some deals, would be good for them and for the network, give them more action in case one does not take an option to just sell and then play another network. Wincake would get less action from these players, but they dont have much action now anyway.

Lock did not do such stuff and is gone now as far as i know. They were hoping to start their own room with their customer base but didnt get the critical mass of active players. The whole network suffered when their players left, and now we see if revolution can build up again, but with all of these deposit only sites and some affiliates that still direct players there, it is really ugly as it is now, just hanging somehow till it gets too long, and we have also epns ff, merge many skins and possibly more, hanging but still paying out, while wincake is 250 dollars per two years cashout site at this time as far as i think and not seeing there has been more cashouts during the last two years, other than some uk players maybe got paid as a priority. How about some priority for players who are still raking there or even on revolution somewhere? Things are not right and could be better.

Lots of assumptions and misinformation in the wall post above.

Really? I am well informed.

Hello,

I can honestly say I just read this twice and none off it made any sence !
The win cake site is well and truly doomed! There is to many sites left the network for this to survive any longer . I give 6 months maximum then the network will go same lock!

Matt

Will this affect player funds on Juicy Stakes?

Hello,

Nope juicy stakes is owned by intertops. After the network goes tits up all the poker sites left on the revolution network can refuse to pay out it's customers as I am sure now all the sites are now owed money from the network.

This is why now the traffic is dead! it's up to the poker sites left to pay out the players when the network finally goes under my guess is intertops and juicy will not pay out anyone either.

I mean why would they when they are owed BIG money already.

Matt

So how come Intertops has always paid out their customers despite all this? Stick to facts and stop with assumptions that you cannot back up.

"intertops and juicy will not pay out anyone either" is your guess and what is "Nope juicy stakes is owned by intertops"?

Intertops is almost a segregated pool and probably pays to Cake for monthly rake generated. So this is why they are able to payout as Cake does not owe them anything on monthly basis.

The question is who is going to keep the software running if Cake goes busto as a network but money there should be safe. The same goes for Goldbet which has mostly a losing player pool.

Hello,

what you don't understand is just by intertops/juicy stakes having many players playing, Every month the network would owe intertops, As you rightly said they are heavily segregated from all players on the network but what you don't no is the network only charge 10% so every month they have to pay out 90% off rake generated to the poker sites .
I can asure you the 10% off the rake the network get did not cover the running costs 3 years ago when they had over 30 sites on the network so the last 5 sites on the network now would never support the running off the site!
As again gold bet are now all segregated to, Betaland have now stopped all poker as they are owed $365,000, leaderbet also owed BIG money. Come On poker refusing to pay out poker winnings again. The Greek sports book stopped all poker now from there sports book owed $235,000.

What other sites are left? cake, ( its own poker site on it's own network ) Maxi who are owed a Ton and who use the cake cashier. no more then 5 poker sites now left. How long do you think juicy / intertops will stand much more off this? It will only be matter off time now before the network just close down and let's see who pay there customers out.

My advise would be cash out all your money now while you still have time unless intertops/juicy say they will pay out if the network go bust.

Matt

I agree that 10% from 85 cash players according to Pokerscout on Revolution network is not a lot of money and it is true they can probably hardly manage their day to day operations.

But a combination of a segregated cashier with a segregated player pool or just a losing player pool is enough for some sites to payout all money to their players if Cake indeed goes bust.

This is probably why some of the bigger players like Intertops and Goldbet are still on Cake as there is no risk for them.

All this said has nothing to do with the fact that Cake is in ****s and someone should really consider buying the company at least for the software and the player base.

Your first response to my question if this will affect player funds on Juicy Stakes was

10 seconds later your response was

Then

Did you not read Juicy Stakes assurance that all player funds are segregated?

If player funds are segregated, it does not play any role when the network goes under.

I don't know how this is working, but I am pretty sure that Juicy/Intertops don't give 100% of the rake generated to the network and then wait until they get the 90% back.

It is more like Juicy/Intertops give the 10% of rake generated to the network, probably on a daily basis. Therefore no risk for Juicy/Intertops in relation to the 10% network fee.

Hello,

"Originally Posted by Juicy Stakes Rep View Post"

"Since we have taken over Juicy all new deposits have been and will continue to be segregated funds which players will have immediate access to if they wish to withdraw"


Did you see the word all "NEW" deposits, not the 2m that was owed when juicy was taken over. who is funding that? And another point to make is how are players going to do the required "play through" FPPs to cash out when the Network go bust.

No, the network has to pay 90% off rake to juicy/intertops every month. As you rightly said intertops /juicy only play with there own players so why would intertps/juicy ever owe the network? its not like they have losing players losing to other poker sites as they are segregated . So trust me the network has to pay them 90% every single month through rake which they do not have.

I say maximum 6 months left. GG cake!

Matt

Anyone getting paid lately?

Not a chance on gods green earth will anyone be paid again . you're lucky somehow the network is still running. I no the last 2 BIG poker sites still on network left last week and was owed a total 645k . Now 5 sites maximum left on network.

Matt