Your avatar drinks in my local pub!!

what pub? you know who he is yeah?

WH support says that the guy with bot in his SN is not a bot and that they still have bots for liquidity BS, then WTF do you let people who ain't bots register SNs with bot in it? Are they ******ed?

I live in Salford, so yea I know who he is. He has just finsished recording a new album. My friend produced it.

Nice, yeah I'm looking forward to new album and seeing them again. He is not appreciated.

Stupid people shouldn't lie.

In defense of the sites integrity I just read this response:

"With regards to "bot771107" we can categorically state that the account is not a "house bot". iPoker, nor William Hill, do not and never have used house bots. The account in question is not a William Hill player."

So this particular "person," knowing he would get banned and lose his money, decided to throw off players, and the site by actually drawing attention to himself with the name BOT771107. Doh!

Remember:

"iPoker, nor William Hill, do not and never have used house bots."

"Do not" use bots & "never used bots" is redundant. "Me thinks thou doth protest too much." Futhermore, since they "do not" use bots it seems kinda silly to leave a hole in the TOS, which allows them to use bots.

This is pathetic.

~Z

How do you actually draw that conclusion? Sorry, I don't get it ... lol.

please learn to read.

they used bots in the "skill games" section of their website. games like dominoes and backgammon as far as i know. if you read the poker T&C you will see the bit about bots being illegal.

your other point is utterly meaningless, of course they are going to protest, their business is on the line.

there are bots on ipoker, but they are not house bots.

I'm going to respond once to you, because I assume you're vested or a shill.

"they used bots in the "skill games" section of their website. games like dominoes and backgammon as far as i know. if you read the poker T&C you will see the bit about bots being illegal."

Sigh. "they used bots in the "skill games" section of their website. games like dominoes and backgammon as far as i know."

That's just the point you DON'T KNOW. Yet you claim to know, with some authority, in the previous sentence. The 2nd sentence shows me that you, in fact, are not so sure. From this point forward everything you say is suspect, because your opinion is obvious slanted.

The truth, is none of us really know the type of shady **** that goes on within any business, especially one that has little to no oversight.

As for the TOS you are correct I haven't read the whole document. I just read several articles about this situation. BUT, the fact is that somebody slipping up in support & this press release do in fact show that they they are either misinformed, stupid, or are really horrible liars.

As for:
"your other point is utterly meaningless, of course they are going to protest, their business is on the line.

there are bots on ipoker, but they are not house bots."

"utterly meaningless"...Oh really? So a sites integrity is meaningless? We'll just have to disagree on that one.

I understand that protesting is the standard these days. It doesn't make it right. I'd rather a person or corporation that I deal with would be honest in a situation like this, than dig in even deeper with more dishonesty. The poker community, and consumers in general, have shown that they are either very forgiving or have short term memory about these type of things.

"there are bots on ipoker, but they are not house bots"
You don't know this. You already admitted that.

My original point was "stupid people shouldn't lie."

Some of us see right through it. I will no longer trust this site. That's my prerogative. You can do whatever you like. Fool me once...

~Zereth

P.S. By they way anybody can read. Understanding what is being said, and not said, requires a little more analysis.

and you dont know there ARE house bots, wtf is your point ******?

The distinction between 'skill games' and 'poker' is actually very clear if you had read some of this thread or the T&Cs.

deathorglory0

why did you ignore my pm?

I'm not sure if you're misunderstanding the different tenses being used here or the word redundant, but you are incorrect. I wouldn't usually nit at stuff like this, but you seem to be using this to make some larger point, so I thought it worth mentioning.

How do these bots play? Leaks? How can we exploit them?

well you'd be wrong on both accounts. think what you want, you are misguided and wrong.

Those are some of the very well known micro bots.
They suck but still take away money from fish and occupy a lot of seats that could be taken by weaker players.
Ipoker won't do anything about them.

I am sorry for my bad English. Here a number of obvious boats in a network ipokera: alavala, appollodor, beninnio, Huko34uk, zacharyas. They regularly play a limit 0,1/0,2, 0,25/0,5, 0,5/1 6 макс. On PTR BotScope nearby 80, a manner of game don't change, aren't arranged under опов, don't communicate in a chat, don't play tournaments... Their statistics can estimate, here for example one http://floomby.ru/content/AkXEfOs91U
I addressed in support ipokera, but have received the answer, what these players Aren't boats (My god if it not boats that who then boats? I want to notice that it is difficult to find in the evening a table limit in ipokera where there is no minimum of two of five these nicknames...

Hi, I'm the opener of the bot thread @pokerstrategy(german).

There are different bots at NL 2-5. Those that can't beat the rake


and those that are winning bots.

Ive a list of well over 50 at NL20 that infest the 6max tables. As i say in the other Ipoker bot thread ive reported them with pretty good evidence and just get the same standard replies. Its a waste of time.

@ zereth mainly. Let's say there were house bots, this would be huge, a scandal worse than the ub superuser IMO as it would require premeditated actions by senior management. Such a scandal could never get out. So, why would Joe bloggs know about it? These live support people tend not 2 be kept in any sort of loop and not really know much about poker (last time I used 1 they didn't know what I meant by a 4max cash game). It doesnt wash that these people would be privy to info that could kill the business.

This thread has been good to bring the real issue of bots up, but I am confident that the original issue here is just an error. U said this is all about processing information, I fear u only do so with parts that fit to outcome u prefer

I guess if ipoker bans all bots there won't be traffic at micro stakes anymore

If you can figure out their exploitable tendencies, please don't post them in public. That's the worst thing you could do. They're taking enough money out of poker economy already, there's no need to give bot runners any advice how to improve their bots further.

If you can't outplay a bot, you're pretty bad anyways imo.

Bots are at best, a percentage player. I could see a bot folding to virtually anything that looks even remotely intimmidating unless it had the absolute nuts.

Anyone had experience with these bots? Not much of a threat from what Iv'e heard so far.

Please, you and everyone else just stop posting this same bs. You have no f'ing clue what you are talking about.