Assuming the Exclusive Netbet and Chico Chases that were in November, will continue in December?

Been working with these guys for awhile! They have ways of getting you into games you couldnt dream of playing! Great team, glad to be part of it!

The Unibet offer isn't listed on the site?

Dear fionatang,

thank you for your question.

Yes, those VIP exclusive Chases will continue in December and through out 2016 as expected.

Please check here for an overview of our Chases:


1. Exclusive Chico Chase December: 10-25% extra value on rooms Tigergaming, Betonline and Sportsbetting, network Chico.

2. Exclusive Planetwin365 Chase December: 10-20% extra value on room Planetwin, network the Hive.

3. Exclusive Netbet Chase December: 5-15% extra value on room Netbet, network Ipoker.

4. Exclusive Pokerking Chase December: 5-10% extra value on room Pokerking, network Winning (WPN).

5. Exclusive Redkings Chase December: 10-15% extra value on room Redkings, network Ongame.


Besides those monthly Chases above and the races you see in previous post, we also put in:


$100k Grand Master Race for our VIP grinders in 2015 and two Grand Master Races, each worth $60k in upcoming year 2016 (more details will follow suit),

$1,5k VIP Rookie Leaderboard December as welcome bonus for new members with 20 prizes paid. This Rookie will continue monthly in 2016 as well and

up to $22,5k in VIP-Grinders Milestones through out 2015 and restart in 2016. Here you can redeem collected VIP points for cash up to 7,5% value.


For further details, please check out our web pages or ping us via Skype/Email.

Cheers!

VIP-Grinders Support Team
Mail: 2p2@vip-grinders.com
Skype: vip-grinders.2p2
www.vip-grinders.com

Great group of guys!

They help us with several set ups and it keeps our staking operation running smoothly ... and whenever we have any type of question / challenge / issue , they are prompt and always have a solution.

<3 ya fellas

Cheers,
C.

Very reliable service. I have been working with them just from the very beginning even under the old name "POKER-MATE" which was around 5 years ago.
They helped me a lot regarding withdrawal issues at some bookies.
If you have any kind of problem just contact this great team and they will do their best to help you.
I can strongly recommend to work with them.

Regards,

****

Hey Colin,

thanks for your nice words.

Its a pleasure working with you guys. We indeed support a couple of staking groups and can make life easier as we know the drill:

1. 25 different networks on offer including EURO, US & Asian facing, Italian and Independent Operator
2. Easy & Daily Transfers
3. Blocking Accounts from Cashouts and Sidegames
4. Reports on Profit and Losses
5. Dedicated Support

IF you run a staking operation/stable, we would love to discuss a possible cooperation. Kindly contact us via Skype or eMail to learn more.

Cheers!

VIP-Grinders Support Team
Mail: 2p2@vip-grinders.com
Skype: vip-grinders.2p2
www.vip-grinders.com

I have know VIPG for a few years. I cannot say anybody in this game has more reliability and integrity than Andre and VIPG.

It's a pleasure to work with them and I hope to do much more business with them in the future.

Mega

Sry for the delay. We got a sweet Unibet deal to offer, however please PM or email us to discuss deals.

Cheers!

VIP-Grinders Support Team
Mail: 2p2@vip-grinders.com
Skype: vip-grinders.2p2
www.vip-grinders.com

Are any of the bonuses deducted from the rakeback/other rewards?

I had very negative experiences with this company. I would suggest folks do not use them. They are easily the most shady affiliate company I've dealt with in my 10 years in the internet poker world.

1. I got Bodog rake back of 20% through them years ago. I raked about 6k in the first month and was thus owed $1,200. They told me that Bodog went back on their promise to pay them and had cancelled the deal. I found this odd because my friend that told me about them received his full payment that month (and no future payments). I kept asking them about this and threatened to out them on 2+2 if I was not paid. Finally they randomly gave me a partial payment - it was some unrounded number like 286 or something like that (can't remember exact figure but it was about a quarter of the amount I was owed). I was busy with other things and pretty much just let it go at that point.

2. About 6 months later I signed up to an Italian ipoker deal and had about 3k euros on the account. My friend was my personal affiliate this time so I trusted the deal a lot more than the first one. Anyway, as others are mentioning, the shady Italiano ran with the money. I asked for my guaranteed money to be returned to me but basically it went from being a guarantee to me being expected to help chase down this Italian guy. It also got extremely shady on the part of VIP grinders where they tried to retroactively change the deal that we had initially made and claim that different people made different deals, etc.

I got pretty angry about all of this and threatened to out the company once again. The owner of the company rather than my affiliate straight up threatened that if I went public I would not get paid in the future even if funds were recovered. Andway, since it was only 3k euros I did not give a **** and said I would just out them anyway. Upon putting on enough pressure I was randomly given a full refund while many other people I know personally were left out to dry. I would have posted about all of this but my friends specifically asked me not to, who were still owed money. One (edit wait no it is 2) of these guys at least is still owed this guaranteed money I believe... from almost 2 years ago.

My friend stopped working with them as a result of this experience.

3. This is the weakest point but I have another friend that got many rake back deals with this company and was simply never paid. I have asked him to come post about it personally which I expect he will do shortly.

How about you give me the extra 900 or so dollars you owe me for bodog rakeback and pay everyone back before you have the audacity to become an official affiliate for 2+2. I mean what did you expect to happen. Kinda funny that this is actually serious.

Hi Kardnel,

we regret you experienced this mess and understand your concerns.

However, as for your .it deals specifically, you got paid fully as you confirmed. Moreover you agreed to keep quiet about those .it deals.....so its very confusing for us to see you fighting for this again when those clients who have still monies stuck are all fine with the way we compensate them.

As for Bovada and in general, the deal got terminated and reopened multiple times and bringing this up after months (or even years) is more than borderline frankly speaking. We indeed never get paid for your action and thats why we had to terminate. Since you were arguing with going public, we made an exception and paid you partially in good will mode (meaning from our pockets) to calm down minds. Now construeing that we cheated you, is very bad manner and we can not agree.

Bottom line for us when it comes to rakeback deals is, we pay if we get paid from our partner rooms. This policy was in place from the very beginning, was never changed and all clients should be aware.

In any case we will not discuss those issues public and further here, so please contact us via mail or Skype if you want to go deeper.

Cheers!

VIP-Grinders Support Team
Mail: 2p2@vip-grinders.com
Skype: vip-grinders.2p2
www.vip-grinders.com

We've been working with VIP-Grinders for years and can highly recommend them as a whole and Andre, Stan & Anh specifically. GL!

I was pretty much the only guy that didn't get his bodog RB for that month from your company of a few guys that I talked to. I was also told that in fact the bodog rb money did get paid through that month. It makes no sense that I did not get the rest of that payment. But no, the reason I made my post is not that I want/expect you to pay me years later. I just want to warn people that your company is not trustworthy.

I think you should actually pay the people you owe money to before you come on 2+2 to as an official rep. So why don't you pay everyone else back right away if you are in such a good financial situation? And no they aren't fine with it, they are scared/angry. They think that if they don't keep quiet they will never be paid. The agreement wasn't, "you're guaranteed to have a deposit counted as an interest free, high risk multiple year loan if things go sour." It was a simple, straight up guarantee that you could not actually live up to.

@Gomer_Pyle:
thank you for your question.
We offer rewards rakeback chases and races on top of site promos including bonuses.
However on some sites, the bonuses are deducted from gross rake so we pay chases based on the net value after deduction.

Please contact us via Skype and/or Email for further details.

@Kardnel: re. Bodog rakeback please kindly contact us via Skype or Email.

@MegaDisgruntled and 4barrel: thanks guys! We hope we can start a lot more Business with you in the future.

Best regards,

VIP-Grinders Support Team
Mail: 2p2@vip-grinders.com
Skype: vip-grinders.2p2
www.vip-grinders.com

Very professional and great communication, I highly recommend these guys.

I used BPC when I first signed up with VIP grinders.
Under my stas with my VIP grinder account, with ref to "Rewards" it says "no". Can you explain what rewards this is describing? i.e. what am I losing out on?

Hi Parky,

thank you for your email.

Please contact us via our Skype or Email below with your VIP username so we can explain your individual deal details.

Best regards,

VIP-Grinders Support Team
Mail: 2p2@vip-grinders.com
Skype: vip-grinders.2p2
www.vip-grinders.com

I signed up for two sites under VIPGrinders and never received a dollar of RB after extensive play. Never got any help from support either.

Hi czGLoRy,

thank you for your feedback.

Could you please contact us via Skype or Email below with your VIP username so we can sort? Currently we check VIP account czGLoRy and can not find any poker account usernames submitted under it for tracking.

Best regards,

VIP-Grinders Support Team
Mail: 2p2@vip-grinders.com
Skype: vip-grinders.2p2
www.vip-grinders.com

I search a good I-Poker deal or if you know better room (softer) with a little bit less, i rake between 200-2000 Dollar per month.

Hi philkill,

thank you for contacting us.

Sure thing. Could you please contact us via Skype or Email below so we can give you deal details for Ipoker and further rooms/networks?

Best regards,

VIP-Grinders Support Team
Mail: 2p2@vip-grinders.com
Skype: vip-grinders.2p2
www.vip-grinders.com

Hey All,

Cliff:

- Vipgrinder sells player security for commissions
- “Guaranteed” funds on Fulpot poker (of course when bad thing happen, they forget it…marketing bull****…they will say whatever makes you sign up)
- “Promised” cash-outs 1-2 weeks (now waiting for over 3 months for a 24k Euro cashout)
- They make money on your back by suggesting very unsafe deal without telling
- Us poker players should be careful and not trust these people

(I will update this in case they decide to make things right)

My frustrating story:

I have been a long term client under VIP-Grinders and have been very disappointed
with their service. They are usually respond quickly on skype, but i now learnt you cannot trust them.

It has been about 5 months or so since I was recommended by them to use the Korean site : FulPot. Foolish of me thinking of the soft game especially when I signed under them. They “guaranteed” funds (see previous poster) , but of course it is an empty promise.

What happened? I play high stakes and lost my first deposit. When I first lost my initial amount no issues ofc, and then I reloaded. My second deposit was more successful and i won money.

On August I decided I didn't want to play there anymore and decided to make a withdrawal of 24 million Korean which at the time was equivalent to about 24,000 euros. I got a bunch of empty promises and delays despite frequent contact with them. After like 2 weeks went by, this was also the time where the Korean currency lost value (i have requested the cashout before the big drop).

Initially when I decided to join this I asked them how is the cashout process and they said "no problems so far 1-2 week cash outs”. They started to offer “faster” cash out in return for a 10% fee (after making me wait one month!). I was very angry at this cheap scam attempt. After time i got so worried that i would even accept 10% loss.

I have gotten about 6k so far of payments WHICH has been given to me at there mercy as I'm taking in whatever random vig they decided to put in which seems to be around 10-15% on average. I have asked a person that I trust a lot and he told me that affiliates earn big commissions on these types of shady sites, because nobody “serious” would ever promote them. The sites also know this and therefore give affiliates juicy deals with high margins. So the poster who complained before is NOT a random person getting screwed. This is the rule not exception.

If you understand how much Fulpot rakes (up to $42 per hand!) + that i am playing high stakes, you understand the real reason why Vip-grinders sends people to those sites. MONEY.

The story is always the same. They will say how unfortunate things are (when the site goes bust and screws players) but 5min later they will promote the next junk site WITHOUT TELLING PLAYERS ABOUT RISK. Not once did they tell me that there is a serious risk on this site.

I now need to check in very often + spend a lot of time talking to managers/ other people to request cash outs only to maybe get a minor cash, out then ask to get another cash out again later. The last message I've gotten is complete BS and it doesn't seem very optimistic as the site is very close to bust I am sure.

[12/10/2015 1:36:32 PM] Hi any BTC available to sell today?
[12/10/2015 1:36:54 PM] FULPOT: hi
[12/10/2015 1:36:56 PM] FULPOT: not sure
[12/10/2015 1:37:07 PM] FULPOT: we selling fulpot chips
[12/10/2015 1:37:25 PM] FULPOT: i will tell you
[12/10/2015 1:38:35 PM] when will it be available for sale again?
[12/10/2015 1:41:11 PM] FULPOT: hmm....i dont know
[12/10/2015 1:41:14 PM] FULPOT: not sure
[12/10/2015 1:41:15 PM] FULPOT:
[12/10/2015 1:44:37 PM] no set time no plans for this?
[12/10/2015 1:56:21 PM] FULPOT: 1day almost 10k cashout service.
but we have too much reserved and cashout order
[12/10/2015 1:57:04 PM] whens the next free reserved date?

No answer and I will continue to write again in hopes of getting money back.

Needless to say, stay away from them they stretch the truth of their wordings often.

vip grinder is known to take deals with shady network to defraud people out of their rolls. They even offer sites that will not pay: right now dollaro has told everyone that wins at high stakes are not going to get paid, yet they are pushing it on someone i know and guarantying it.

do not trust.

If a mod is wondering about my babble, i have chat logs that shows vip grinder pushing a site that has announced it will NOT pay at the limits the person asked to play.

I have also been offered dollaro in the past, I hope This cash out issue is not the case.