I think 24 HU tables is an awesome idea. Hats off to the guys who thought it first

If Stars does not take the wins back from these guys, I'm cashing my account out and telling them why and only playing Tilt/Cake for a while. I specifically logged onto stars to play some tonite because of this promo and I guess sory of expected they would have policed against this sort of thing.

They did police against it, they shut down hu tables.

I don't see how people can think Stars could do anything more once the promotion is announced and includes the HU tables than say "oops this can't be allowed to continue so here's the patchwork fix".

taking away the bonuses already earned would be lolbad. In fact not only shouldn't they do it- I'd be surprised to find out they COULD per their regulatory body.

there was exploitation that in at least some instances was greenlighted. mistakes were made and remedied. move on.

warning BANNERS!!!! LOL

anyone know around what time it will happen?

I'm definitely glad that stars took some form of action, but simply excluding HU tables rather than shutting them down might have been a better move. But the official response seemed to suggest that this was hard to implement... My hats off to them for taking action but very unfortunate to HU regs who got screwed by this.

I don't think it's right to take money away from those who already won because Stars did a bad job sending out a clear message on their position up till now. Stars should bite the bill on this and consider adding a bit of money to the 25 billionth hand, adding extra milestones, or running some sort of compensatory promo for all the hard feelings this mess caused.

Nothing, but it's much harder to pull off there. A clear message needs to be sent about this kind of behaivor and it should be punished in the future. Personally I'd prefer if they never ran another milestone event and just went for double VPP week or the like instead.

Yes, that's part of why so many people were pissed.

There is some abuse going on at the 15/30 5CD tables. Same 6 guys sitting out at 10 tables. A few sitting in right before the milestone approaches.

even if they shut HU tables, teams can still get 6 ppl to sit at 6 max tables to implement this thing...so banning HU tables ain't working at all. such a pointless suspension.

As some people said, it is going on at 6-max too, but I'll be shocked if its anywhere near as bad. It requires more people, and more effort, plus they get less hands in per hour. I'm sure if you report the 6-max people they can deal with them on an individual basis. If you are calling the heads up ban pointless, you must not be aware of how widespread the abuse was.

yea i guess ban all the 6 max table also? i'm actually one of those that support such strategy. I think whoever came up w/ this idea was a genius.

Um, the same idea was used on both Paradise Poker and Ultimate Bet back in the day. It's been around for a long time. That's not to say that different people didn't come up with it by themselves. You know why? Because it's nowhere near genius, it's something that any halfbraindead fool can figure out. And if you doubt that, try rereading your own posts after getting an education.

-Michael

Unless things have changed drastically, it's not happening at all 6-max tables, or even most, whereas at HU it was.

Im glad they stopped this, it was total abuse and everyone who angle shooted shud be DOOMSWITCHED

Just play the game and stop your crying.

I withdrew and won't play there for a while, unless they take the wins back from these guys.

An obvious fix would have been requiring a flop to be seen or a minimum pot amount or something, kind of like (duh) B&M casinos have a minimum potsize requirement for bad beat jackpots and have had this for years.

You want them to take back money from people who were told what they did was okay before they did it?

So if UTG goes all in and everyone folds, no one wins???

I've never heard of a BBJ requiring a pot size.

Where were they told beforehand that autofolding was okay in this promotion giveaway? Stars didn't say "here's how the bonus works, and by the way autofolding agreements between players at the same table are okay." Clearly at the very least this abuse constitutes both the one player to a hand rule and also collusion. Stars said this was okay towards the end of the HU abuse this time around, but a lot of those were won before this unless there's something I haven't read and I'm not about to print this and other threads out and scour them with a highliter.

If that's the rule put in place to keep this from happening and everyone knows, then yeah, sure. The next table gets a crack at the jackpot. It's not like I suggest Stars just keep it, but so long as the rules are in place and upfront, then whatever.

I have. And maybe more rooms should do this. It's to discourage ppl from autofolding, although seems like you have t obe a cheap nit to do so at a B&M. But I know at least one cardroom that has the rule because specifically they had players opening tables and folding around simply to try and hit the big BBJ.

Stars simply doesn't care about this problem and abuse, even though they've seen it before and probably anticipated it now, so I take that to mean they don't care too much about their players so I cashed out and will stay away for a while. They probably don't care about losing me as my MGR is not too big but whatever. If they[re going to allow this they might as well have just picked random ppl to give the money to.

yeah, definitely cannot take back bonuses when Stars sent emails specifically approving the strategy

still OK for Stars to reconsider the idea and go with the idea that this is collusion since it seems against the spirit of the promotion to a HUGE majority of the players at the site

I do not understand those claiming crying. I was in the midst of setting up a HU folding team when stars banned the idea. However, as a player, I understood this was a CLEAR angle shoot. It makes sense to me that players legitimately complained. It's not whining or crying. It's voicing displeasure that an obvious angle shoot was happening. All dissent is not whining/crying.

This question might sound newbie even though I've played on stars for 5 years now but is their any way to hide the congrats notices of the milestone announcements as they stay on the screen too long and are blocking the cards on the board with my tables resized how they are?

jb

Options>Block Announcements

I think I already had that clicked but I better double check . Thanks.

lol, what do you call the handling of this milestone situation?