yeah someone with a low balance try and post results.

I'd love to just use my USA bank but all wires coming to a USA bank will go through the feds right?


I think the safest option for large balance situations is to just spend the 1200 bucks on flying to canada for a weekend and opening a bank account. I called some canadian banks and you dont need anything mre then your SS card and a ID.

I'm going to go to my bank in person today and speak to them about the euros thing.

I finally heard back from QT. It looks like my funds might be gone. Any idea if I have any recourse?

Thank you for contacting the QuickTender Settlement Department.

Your previous withdrawal has been processed but money has been accumulated in our bank's correspondent banking partners accounts in the US, and has been frozen. We suspect it is possible that these funds may be subject to a seizure order by the US authorities. We would stress that we do not have bank accounts in the US of our own, and that the funds have left our account Europe.

The money has been frozen in the US banking system, and unfortunately this is entirely beyond our control.

We are very sorry for the inconveniences this has caused and thank you for your understanding.
Kind regards,

QuickTender Settlement Department
banking@QuickTender.com
Fax: +44 (0)870 626 9684

Kiago,

Your withdraw request was transferred from QT to a US intermediary bank account and that account was sized by US authorities. To have any chance of getting your money back, you need to file a claim with the Government.

You should be following this thread instead: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...hread-1059756/

The most recent email from QT sounded like they would not send any transfers to banks located in the US........ but if they will and its our only option then I guess their really isn't any other choice.

I still am not convinced that they will do it once they are aware that its a US account, but I guess we will have to wait and see.

when i spoke with feds and asked how i could get my money all they sad was NOT FROM A US FINANCIAL INSTITUTION

the feds say that^ qt wants to transfer in euros... seems worth it to get canadian bank account for large balances.

I'm confused--you called them an asked them how you could get your cleared (not frozen) QT balance? They told you if you sent it to a USD account they would seize it?

Also, with whom specifically were you speaking?

see my earlier psts, i called SS and those are their wrds.

I bank with regions bank and they told me that I could sent it with their swift code and my account number and they said they would accept an international transfer I'm euros. I see no reason why it won't go through. Just emailed QT with the wire info. I'm pretty confident though. If it doesn't work I'll be shocked

shocked... really, am i reading this wrong r did someone just say they tried to a usa bank and had it frozen?

No, pretty sure the quoted post is from someone that had money seized in the original (Linwood, etc.) seizures.

Would you QT send to an account that has me as a co signer? For example the account is in Russia and my mom will put my name on there as well.

ok so has anyne had success to a usa account or still in request mode.

HSBC will allow you to open an international account from the states. You must do it in person at one of their branches, and they're only in Pacific states, IL, NY, PA, FL, and VA. My buddy is opening an account tomorrow, funding it himself, and then will request the withdrawal. I called them today, asked about opening the account and funding it with the quicktender withdrawal, and they said no due to the source of the funds. If you apply for an account and get declined, the $200 fee is returned to you.

edit: Greece is the country of choice due to ease to create the account in.

Please tell us if this works. It seems that many US based banks are willing to do this. The only question is will the wire get through?

From QuickTender:

We are writing to confirm that your bank details have been accepted and the withdrawal request has been submitted by our operators from your QuickTender account.
Please be so kind to review the details of your withdrawal request under section 'My QuickTender' and contact us if something is wrong.

The payment converted into EUR will be processed by our operators within the time period July 1st and August 15th. Please expect the funds to be received to your bank account not sooner than 3-5 business days after the status of your withdrawal has been changed to 'confirmed'.
Kind regards,

QuickTender Team

I sent my US bank information. It seemed like the only real option. My bank said they would take wire in EUROs and change to USD and deposit in my account. Keeping my finger crossed. I think money wired in USD may be seized but money wired in EUROs may not. I think it will take several days to find out. I will let you know what happens.

rapper how much money you transfering that your just willing to take the chance.

I hope it works but i still think a canadian bank is the safest for people with anything over 10k.

yes, for anybody attempting to send funds to us bank, please keep us all in the loop...personally think this might be the best option

I have a feeling that it will be seized. I just don't see the government not knowing everything they are doing, especially if they use chargestream to do the wire.

You don't get to specify the amount of withdraw. They send everything in your account. I have over 3k. They still applied $30 fee. I think UMW expects to send to US banks that accept EUROs. We'll see what happens. I guess this is a risk but I could not find another option. My bank will also apply a wire fee.

So you think the government would knowingly freeze ONLY "player" funds, for which we all have a claim to...so they can spend more time and money dealing with those claims in court? It would be an absolutely idiotic decision for the government to take action here.

They've seized UMW transfers to players before (those sent in May 2011) - what is different now?

It's not a question of moral or stupidity - rather of technical possibility or lack thereof. Like I said before, they cannot just easily put a universal order to all banks. In May it was not necessary since all transfers went through the same US intermediary. So now it is a tougher job for feds, and they also have to act and think quickly. Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope they won't succeed.

A lot is different now. Mainly, Chargestream isn't doing business in the United States anymore. That was the whole point.

I didn't say it wasn't technically possible--in fact, I think I was clear on the contrary. When people are legitimately worried that a seizure is likely, it becomes much more than an issue of technically possible. Now you have to look at the practicality of them doing it. This requires analyzing cost/benefit (or smart/stupid). If the government gets involved in this process, it's a lot of cost and little benefit.

Just another note: the accounts that were frozen in May, from Fortis Bank in the Netherlands, had "proceeds from an illegal gambling business" and were "involved in money laundering transactions" (from the Linwood Affadavit). If they do not send the funds from dirty accounts, the risk is reduced substantially.

I think it's highly unlikely they would use Chargestream to wire the funds. I also think it's unlikely that any one wire gets seized (though it is possible that a minority will); the feds are not anywhere near capable of tracking all incoming wires.