Do you not get it, he edited the text and entered all that there, I never said any of those things, you think I am stupid saying things like that to him, when I know the idiot is posting everything ??, I am not racist nor limitninja

this is LG8732, my name on 2 plus 2 was banned from logging in--not sure why yet, so i had to make another 2p2 account just so i can post this message---so I'd appreciate this account not getting banned for fake romanwarrior accusations as this is a serious matter to me

i have talked to romanwarrior today, and he stated he may not transfer the money back to me that he scammed me out of (200 roughly)...he claims that i'm related to a paulbpoker serial scammer on UB, which isnt true--and if i have to post my UB transaction history or my pokerstars transaction history to prove this..or whatever is necessary, then fine whatever---

point is, romanwarrior is now making up fake stories to try to get out of paying the debt, telling me that i may have scammed him out of 500 in the past, first of all---why the **** would i send money to YOU if i scammed it out of you...this is so beyond ridiculous...

secondly, i have given him till monday at 4pm to pay me back, or outline how hes paying me back....he reacted defiantly towards this statement.....i then told him i would reveal his identity and location on this forum if he ignored my deadline...he then said please tell me my first name and i will pay you back first....now i dont agree with me getting paid and nobody else, so i decided to post all this on here, and see what comes about....

roman warrior has promised to have this situation resolved with me by sunday afternoon, if the situation is not resolved i will be revealing his identity along with his address of his Dearborn, Michigan home

This whole time I thought that you were a liar. Now, I'm pretty sure that you are.

I've dealt with contracted work and subcontracted work for the better part of ten years. Companies don't just "write off work" - that would get them in serious trouble. They have to prove that the work is done and that there is a paper trail to follow because they have taxes to pay as well. If that doesn't happen...well...we've seen lots of white collar crime and fraud in the past few years, have we not?

Here is how it usually works.

Contracted employee bids on a job.

Company hires employee.

Company gives employee an invoice for services rendered, if the job is more than $600. If the company fails to do so, the IRS will audit them, and the audit will not be pleasant.

Company gives employee a 1099 form at the end of the year if the contract work is more than $600. Sometimes, if it's a short term contract, company will give employee the 1099 shortly after the completed work, if they know the services from the contracted employee will be no longer needed.

Dude, there is a paper trail throughout this whole process. Unless you are working for a business of ill-repute (I'll let others elaborate), I don't believe anything that you wrote in this entire thread (except the parts where you need to pay people back).

So please, for my sanity (as I read this entire thread and shaking my head the entire time), drop the $6K per month in income story...I no longer buy it.

Living off of rakeback is kinda sick along with gambling with life expenses...I feel sorry for your wife and kid.

/flame

This thread keeps getting better & better

Thats not correct some small companies dont do that, I can get a notirized letter from a company that I did work for and they will not issue me any 1099 forms or anything at all that I did work for them, but I am claiming it on my taxes anyhow.

to lg, as i said I wasnt the one who accused you, Mike Haven did, if you turn out to be who you say you are I will have no problem paying you back, but as he suggested you might be a serial scammer who scammed me previously than we will go from there.

Any how, anyone who wants to wager that everything that I say about my work is true is welcome to do so, as I said earlier, other wise stfu about it, as you are here to waste time and flame, as I said I will provide all needed proof to 2 people on here.

Also Lg saying that he knows my identity than i am more inclined to agree with Mike Haven that he is that scammer. although I wouldnt know how or what he knows about me.

Here is an example, 2 months ago I did work for this law firm, they needed their computers reloaded and a network set up between 4 computers, I was there for 3 days and finished everything off, they asked me for an invoice I provided it to them, they cut me a check, and thats it, I will NEVER will get 1099 form from them, but I still have to file this on a schedule C when I do my taxes.

Then your small companies could get in serious trouble for tax evasion. Good for you to claim the income though.

I'm not here to waste time - I want what others want, for you to pay them. This thread should be half its size but it's not because of your repeated denial (what personally set me off is the $22-should-I-play-a-tournament-choice) about your issues.

I just don't believe you or your income statements. There is truly nothing that you can write to change my mind about this either, so if I were you, I would just take the hits, stop posting, and start finding ways quickly to pay people back. Develop a payment plan (that's specific - not when I get my rakeback payment back) with installments.

Take responsibility - it goes a long way.

My father sets up video surveillence for stores to keep track of inventory and for safety.

His last client was a small retail store that was family owned.

They still gave him a 1099 form and an invoice for services because both parties insisted on it.

Again, I truly don't think the law firm wouldn't provide you with a 1099 form.

This just doesn't wash and if you can't see that, well, neither can I.

there ya go betting again.

Roman - WTF dude?
I never said anything about your contract work. I don't know a damn thing about how that stuff works. I do tend to believe the other people's accounts in this thread about how it works but that is like the only thing I was NOT accusing you of being incorrect about because I frankly just don't know.

I have no reason to accept a $1k bet with you. And I don't know if you would pay up if I won anyway.
However it seems like you just want it to be a one-sided bet where I would pay you if I was wrong. Wrong about what exactly?
I really don't care about this contract work stuff and was mostly ignoring that part of the discussion. Henry and others are the ones who have made some points about it which seem quite valid to me...but again, I have no idea about that stuff.

I'm far more fascinated by your incredible amount of denial, the part where you thought it would be acceptable to continue playing poker with other people's money, and some of your really polite language about the "incident" that you choose to use instead of just flat-out saying that you are a thief and you STOLE from people.

quit posting text of IM convo's, any IM text should be assumed edited, if you want people to believe an IM convo post a screenshot of the IM window, at least that takes slightly more effort to edit/fake

Hi Bob -

He just confused me with you, that's all. I'm the one who called him out the contract work because it doesn't smell right.

Denial is no longer a river in Egypt.

see "romanwarrior's best thread" for examples of his efforts to fake computer-generated text.

Roman,

Imagine I say "get me 2k in the next 3 days without your wife finding out or I kill you"

What do you do?

solicit "trades/funds transfers" via the interwebs, ldo

This is well on its way to being a least busto ever zoo thread.

There's some irony in there somewhere.

Step away from the crack pipe. Do it now!

LOL @ a law firm not sending you the correct documents.

And how do you know they will NEVER send you a 1099? Did they tell you that? Or are you just guessing?

I'm not sure if you're lying or just being purposely stupid. I suspect a bit of both at this point. It's clear that you'll say anything and do anything not to have to pay people back quickly, because that is too painful for you. Instead, you'd rather project the pain onto your victims who you stole from and make them wait longer for their money.

Black Peter - You evidently missed the park where it's not his fault that he has so many bills, not enough money, and really really needed to steal from people.
He's had an extremely tough go of things lately so that's how this 'incident' ended up happening.

Some people, when they don't have enough money, try to get a job (or another job...or more work...whatever).
Some people think of ways to steal from other people. And some of those people play poker with money they can't afford to lose.

Can we seriously get an IP ban on LeroyBrown please

Ok my last post concerning all this:

1. Am I a scumbag for doing what I did. Yes I am there is no excuse for what I did, and I know it.

2. Did I lie about my work/bills/income etc. No and I stated few times and will state for the LAST time anyone wants to confirm it thats fine i will have no problems with that. If a company chooses not to send me a 1099 I dont care, not my problem as I file it anyways, also I forgot to mention that I do it from my business's name, thats what I meant when I said I got them the invoice for work, so I don't know if that makes a difference or not, I have a federal tax id etc. so maybe I am not considered as being employed but the business is. But when I do work as myself I do get 1099 from companies I do work for on regular basis.

3. Am I planning on paying people back. Yes absolutely
4. Did I edit text. NO, and that ftp rigged thread, I was doing many things and I already closed the table and only half of my hh got copied so i entered what I remembered.

5. Please lets stop this discussion about my life and etc. this thread is for people who are owed money only, and to make updates on my payments, so far I sent 120 havent had any confirmation yet as it was sent to the parites involved.

Ok best post yet

Roman

No one cares what you make or don't make. The people just want their money back. I really suggest you just stop talking. It is not helping your cause and it could make things a lot worse for you. Less caring about what people on the internet think about you and take the time you are wasting here and devote it to getting the money to pay them back.

roman - You really are the one who brought your life into this.
If you just said, "I'm a scumbag and thief and needed the money. Can't pay it back right away as I'm pretty tapped out but I do work and will get the money paid soon" then it would probably have ended at that although I still believe it would be appropriate to sell stuff.

But you are the one bringing your whole life into it and, I believe, kind of wanting people to feel sorry for YOU which is kind of laughable considering what you did.
You are the one who brought up exactly how you intend on getting this money (RB payment soon...paycheck for your contract work soon...etc etc). You are the one mentioning your wife and kid. You are the one going into all the details about WHY you were put in this situation where you felt you needed to steal. You are the one mentioning your $6k worth of bills per month and that you had an investment gone bad a few months ago.

etc etc etc.

Nobody else brought up those topics.
To many of us they sound kind of weird not to mention a REALLY flimsy excuse to justify being a scumbag and stealing from people.
You can blame the others for pointing out errors they think they see with your logic. But you are the one who brought up that logic and your experiences and all this contract-work and bad-investment stuff in the first place. Again...this appears to me to be a situation where you kind of blaming others for something that YOU actually should be blamed for. If you don't want people asking WTF you are talking about wrt to this contract stuff then you shouldn't have mentioned the "woe is me" aspect of your story in the first place.