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PokerStars/2+2-users: Oct 15-17 2014 Meeting proposed PokerStars/2+2-users: Oct 15-17 2014 Meeting proposed

11-07-2014 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Steve View Post
The main aim of the meetings is two way communication between PokerStars and the players. We can discuss future plans and development priorities for new client features, game offerings, VIP Club benefits, promotions, or pretty much anything the players care to discuss.

We will ensure that the appropriate senior managers are present for whichever topic is being discussed.

The goal of the meetings is for the players and the site to gain greater knowledge and understanding of one another. We expect the site to improve as a result.

While rake is a topic that we will be perfectly happy to discuss, these are not collective bargaining negotiations on rake/price between representatives of players and PokerStars.

Anyone expecting their representatives to come in treating PokerStars as an opponent to be beaten is likely to be disappointed. If this is the case for you, please do not take it out on the representatives. This is a collaborative and constructive process, not a competition.

For the vast majority who do support the vision for these meetings, I thank you in advance for your participation whether it be voting or attempting to become a representative
Right now you really have zero credibility in the online poker community Steve, having this meeting when you what was coming, then not telling the reps, is like hanging them out to dry.
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11-07-2014 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mullion
Right now you really have zero credibility in the online poker community Steve, having this meeting when you what was coming, then not telling the reps, is like hanging them out to dry.
You left out the part where the moderator cancelled the vote and chose the rep himself.
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11-07-2014 , 03:46 PM
Maintain my vote for Donkeystars next meeting...if there is one.
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11-07-2014 , 04:24 PM
Shall we start a petition for Steve to end his sit-out protest?
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11-07-2014 , 05:09 PM
11-07-2014 , 06:30 PM
I vote we send Donkeystars next time if they wont listen to us and just want to find out what we want so they can actively screw us over as bad as possible we might as well annoy the heck out of them.

maybe he could bring his evidence of hands written down on scrappy pieces of paper, hopefully screwed up and illegible hand writing and his conspiracies of Daniel Negraneu specifically writing emails to get him to deposit another $20.

maybe get them to bring Daniel down to apologize to him personally and have to prove emails sent to everyone, just cause Daniel wants to screw us over for his next pay check.
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11-08-2014 , 03:33 AM
I'm embarrassed for GGARJ.
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11-08-2014 , 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Your Mom
I'm embarrassed for GGARJ.
It's ok....it's like, if they cart you off to the Willy Wonka factory and feed you chocolate bars you're going to come back with chocolate smeared all over your face and a huge grin...then you look down and realize all that chocolate made you super fat.....and then you're not so appreciative.
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11-08-2014 , 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by mullion
Right now you really have zero credibility in the online poker community Steve, having this meeting when you what was coming, then not telling the reps, is like hanging them out to dry.
Meh given how Amaya seems to operate I'd say there was a good chance Steve didn't know what was coming.
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11-08-2014 , 09:08 AM
This is a total joke...
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11-08-2014 , 10:20 AM
cliffs? there was no meeting or..?
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11-08-2014 , 11:05 AM
I check my email about five times every day, will post right away when I hear something back from Steve.
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11-08-2014 , 07:39 PM
Best. Trip. Report. Ever.
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11-08-2014 , 07:50 PM
GoGetaTripReport
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11-10-2014 , 03:10 AM
So how about that weather
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11-10-2014 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S
So how about that weather
Been kind of chilly here lately. It makes it so much nicer to sit in front of the fire, have a warm cup of tea, and wait to read GGARJ's trip report.

I do feel bad for you GGARJ. I have been in support for the meetings up to and including this last one, and always looked forward to reading the trip reports (and I'm especially interested in this one in lieu of what has happened), but my support for the meetings is starting to disappear. For what it's worth, I think Steve has been very unfair to you in taking so long to respond.
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11-10-2014 , 10:30 AM
Yea, I have no idea what's going on at this point. Haven't gotten any "still working on it" replies or anything.
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11-10-2014 , 10:38 AM
No disrespect to you at all, but by this point your report will not be of much value other than an amusing snapshot of a company that was in transition that kept a lot of that information from you. I suppose whatever chat you had on the seat scripts might be of some interest, but otherwise the report will just be a log on the fire for those angry.

Maybe it is just chaos at Stars now, maybe Steve aint there no more, or maybe it is a conspiracy to keep your report. Not really much difference in the end, and in the unlikely event that they have a future meeting the poll should reflect many people's belief that nobody is a good option, or else just have a fun race between a riggie, a huddie and a bitcoiniac.

Again, no disrespect to you or the work you did, but you may just want to tell Stars that you will no longer publish a report as a form of protest with how this was handled.
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11-10-2014 , 10:52 AM
I will publish a report unless Stars forbids me to do so. People can think of it whatever they choose.

Stars certainly benefits from these meetings, it's only fair that 2+2 at least gets an idea on how the discussions went.
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11-10-2014 , 10:58 AM
Well, another option then is to email/PM various Stars employees and post here of a deadline that you will post the report by a certain date (say the end of the month) if you do not hear otherwise. That seems reasonable, because if you just get no feedback for months are you still planning to post it in April if they get around to it then?
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11-10-2014 , 11:21 AM
They are busy...

Amaya provides guidance update and announces date for 2014 Third Quarter earnings release conference call

Amaya Gaming Group Inc. 2 hours ago

MONTREAL , Nov. 10, 2014 /CNW/ - Amaya Gaming Group Inc. ("Amaya" or the "Corporation") today affirmed its previously announced guidance for the full year 2014 for revenue ( $669 - $715 million ) and Adjusted EBITDA* ( $265 - $285 million ), with results expected at the high end of the range.
The financial guidance for 2014 excludes the impact of any potential future strategic transactions, and any specified items that have not yet been identified and quantified.
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11-10-2014 , 11:32 AM
I can't risk posting anything without a go-ahead due to the NDA. Just meant that I won't refrain from posting due to a personal protest or otherwise as that would make no sense.

The only situation in which I won't post is if I get a message explicitly forbidding me from posting anything at all - or if they ignore my emails indefinitely
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11-10-2014 , 11:40 AM
GGARJ- Considering Stars has shown you great disrespect by not informing you of serious changes that were slated for release within a week of the meeting and the fact that Stars continually doesn't bother to get around to allowing you to post your TR do you plan to go back? Or have you thrown in the towel?
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11-10-2014 , 11:54 AM
Hehe, I think it's better for someone else to pick up the torch. Me going out there for a third "term" in a row might be perceived as corrupt/rigged, and it's good to have someone else offer his/her perspective at the discussions for a change.

As to whether the meetings shoud continue at all, we'll have that debate when they are announced again.
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11-10-2014 , 12:14 PM
i think pokerstars showed there true colors when they perm banned the protesters. Although I don't understand why that info was not updated here. Did they seize there rolls as well would not surprise me.

do you know they now have sneaked in there terms and conditions, that they can seize your roll for saying offensive things or profanities in the chat.

do not know how applicable or enforceable that would be but I am just waiting for stars to start seizing rolls it causes confusion for me in how i manage my poker bankroll due to lack of confidence in stars now.

initially an E wallet would be a good idea with regular withdrawals and deposits but now foreign exchange transaction fees would kill me if i did that.
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