half-all-half is a very bad formula for trades.

It ensures that if either one of the traders is looking to scam then there will be a scam.

At what point do you actually become worried that you've been scammed? I sent nadical money on MB last night and he said he would send Cake right after. We had a long conversation on Skype that lasted a little over an hour and he said he was really tired but would wait for the transfer to go they before heading to bed. Now it's almost 8 hours later and I haven't received any transfer or even heard from him at all. I have all the conversations and PM's saved. Should I contact MB and tell them? Help, idk what to do and I'm getting really worried.

Errr contact cake support/security first, then give us the heads up...

And tell them what exactly? And after that should I contact MB and try to get the transfer back? Is that even possible I know their support is pretty slow.

I contacted Moneybookers security, I don't see why I would contact Cake, nothing was actually done on Cake. He was supposed to send the money on Cake but never did.

Also his last activity on 2p2 was at 6:24 AM today, so he must have seen my PM's at least.

Just contacted Cake and made them aware of the situation.

I hate to comment on someone else's trade comments, but you think he would rather you get your funds with the chance of reversing the payment? Your kinda making it seem like he made you wait, when he really didn't. I don't know neither of you, but I would consider this sending at the same time. Trust nobody in p2p with no personal history with 1k+ uncleared, have you seen the recent activity in this place?

This was my reasoning as well. But I do understand his position, and I'm comfortable sending now after checking his references and trading history. Cheers.

David,

On the transferring money thread you said that my creation of a new account on Pokerstars--since moving to Brazil from the US--was a "red flag" to anyone considering a swap of money on PS from a bank transfer.

I immediately contacted Pokerstars to inform them that I had set up a new account, and asked them to please help me reactivate my old one so that it reflects my new address and allows me to play for real money.

Here was their response:

"Hello ******,

Thank you for your email.

PokerStars no longer allows players from the United States to use
PokerStars' real money games from the United States. As a result
of this change, we are unable to change the registered country of
your PokerStars play money account.

Consequently, you will need to create a new PokerStars account
from your new place of residence. This new account will then
have your correct country of residence displayed.

We trust that this has been helpful to you, but please feel free
to contact us again any time if we can assist further.

Regards,

Urska
PokerStars Support Team"

Just an FYI since others may yet move outside the US and should they properly set up a new account, I wouldnt want you to label them as "red flags."

best regards.

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Edit/MH: See http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1016

Ok, I contacted cake and moneybookers and made them aware of my situation. Is there anything else I can or should do?

I didn't have his cake sn, just email and cake just emailed me back saying there is no user registered under his email address... Now what?

I'm getting really worried and stressed out now about this trade and idk what to do. I have our whole skype conversation saved and all the PM's saved, and the email from moneybookers confirming he accept the transfer. I don't know what I can do or if there is even anything I can do. I feel like I've been scammed.

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Edit/MH: nadical, for search purposes.

See http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1044

If nothing was done on cake then there's nothing cake can do to help you. Best you can do is contact moneybookers and tell them you were scammed and ask them to freeze his account or to reverse your transaction.

You should be telling MB you think you have been scammed.

I doubt if they will reverse the transfer, but they might be able to ensure he doesn't scam others.

Please forward one of his PMs about the transfer to me so I can record it.

Thank you.

What're the chances they do this? Do you have previous experience with this?

Done.

No experience with moneybookers so I can't say for sure. Good luck though

This is yet another case where the victim didn't ask to sit and chat, and be shown the money involved, at the poker site's tables.

This would take only a minute or two, and would save the victims many thousands of dollars over a year.

If the person says that his chat is banned, it's probably because he is impersonating a player who is already sitting but who doesn't chat. Don't fall for that one, either.

Hmmm this makes no sense.... How come a lot of players who moved out of the USA are using their same old user names?

How can you create another account and have the same user name as your old account?

I have no idea if it's a policy they've recently changed, but I am willing to forward the email to whomever would like it for verification.

"As a result of this change, we are unable to change the registered country of your PokerStars play money account."

Probably play money accounts don't have all the bells and whistles attached that real money ones do, so it's easier to create a new real money account if someone has never had one before?

LOL @ Play Money -- didn't catch that... Guess that's why you have the orange in your name.... Thanks

My account was compromised. Sorry that happened I tried to log in today and was unable to. I am in the US so can't use moneybookers in the first place nor do I use skype either. Sorry that you were scammed and he used my previous transactions and my reg date of 2005 to possibly lure you in. Again this was not actually me and my account was hacked by whatever the recent hacking attempts have been. I would be very wary of any transactions these days as many people have reported hacking attempts on their accounts.

If I've got Visa//Amazon Giftcards that I'd like to trade for Intertops funds, and I cannot get approved for the Giftcard Marketplace forum yet, how might I go about trading them for Intertops funds?

Thanks.

I noticed that, as well, but I thought it was a form email they sent because all US accounts are only capable of being play money accounts at this time.

I'll email them for clarification. Honestly, it is extremely difficult to get a timely and straightforward response to even simple questions--and I'm a huge supporter of stars.

You don't need approval to deal with someone who is approved and has a thread offering Intertop $$ for your giftcards.

No one is offering that atm, Intertops being a much less active skin.

If you had any transferable account (GD, NS, bank) then you could offer that for Intertops in the p2p xfer thread.

Hello

Posted as requested by Rainbow Warrior

I'm an American playing on a site where I can w/d to my affiliate's Moneybookers. I currently only have local banks, and am trying to find someone reliable who will be able to transfer MB to my bank.

I'm going to open an account at a major bank, which one would be best for this?

Also, can anyone recommend someone reputable for this? And what is the typical vig for MB to bank? 5%?

Thanks!

Are you asking about the major banks in the US? Mostly it's a matter of preference between boa/chase/wf/citi, there shouldn't be much difference between them really. However, if you just want to withdraw all your money and don't want the hassle of needing to maintain a minimum balance, you should check out boa's echecking account. No minimum balance and no monthly fees if you choose paperless statements and only use atms (no tellers). For the other 3 I think the minimum balance is ~$250.