Let's revisit the PM rule. I'll put the relevant part in bold.

To me this mean that prior to sending a PM or replying to one, both of these conditions must exist;

1. A trade offer must be posted.
2. A reply to that offer must be posted.

Veteran watchdogs can't predict exactly who the next scammer or victim will be, or exactly when when it will occur, but we can say with certainty that they will appear.

Given enough information and time, we can see a collision course in the making and alert a potential victim about a specific concern. All to often though, an scam report arrives that catches us without warning.

If the above rule was adhered to without exception, we'll be in better postion to spot an irregularity; they might be 'buying' and 'selling' Cake funds at the same time, or there might be delays in the completing normal trades.

There are a myriad of red flags that would be obvious to a veteran trader, but if we don't see them ahead of time, we're all left in the dark at the exact time that we would be most useful.

It seems that the exchange rate for poker money to an US bank is about 10%. Can anyone confirm this?

Hello,
I have a question... do you have to be a poker player to do money transfers with people on this website? Or do certain sportsbetting websites also do money transferring between members? 2nd. If I create a poker account at lock poker.. Will I be able to get funds transferred into my account my another member immediately.. and may I be able to withdraw it immediately without playing with the cash at all. Any information would be appreciated.. even if you could guide me to the way to best join the website and begin trading/buying/selling with other members in the funds trading section. Thank you very much for your help.

Could you give me a direct link sir. I am new to the site and am getting use to everything. What does OP stand for and what exact link or tab should I look for?

new to 2+2 and may be looking to trade rpm $$ soon[chenmonk on rpm]. Can someone please tell me if it matters if i purchase a mc or vc gdmp. Ty

First off read the OP in the p2p thread. So many get scammed because they dont take 5mins to read it. And it depends on what someone is looking to buy or what you have to sell. But you dont have your pms enabled and thats explained in the OP.

I'm looking for an alternative to the slow Merge check withdrawals, so I finally decided to look into the trading forums on 2p2. Been reading a lot the last few days.

So I've read the opening posts in the P2P thread and the Gift Card thread. I've read about the first 200 posts of this thread. Apparently, UIGEA & BF has created a market for people to deposit money to Merge by trading Green Dot cards for Merge poker money via the player to player transfer feature. The depositor can even get a vig this way. If they had just deposited with their Green Dot card, they will be out the $4.95 or whatever it cost them to get the card, but if they get a vig, they'll probably get a little profit. It seems like Merge neither condones nor condemns this practice officially, but I'd have to think they must love this kind of arrangement, because it saves them from having to deal with users trying (and failing) to deposit with their cards, and it also keeps them from having to deal with people like me requesting checks.

So if I want to cashout a few hundred a month from RPM/Carbon, it is wise to try to stay under the radar, right? Therefore you should employ multiple cashout methods; Netspend, GreenDot, Chase QuickPay, BankofAmerica, and maybe Western Union. That way you don't move too much money through any one method and avoid arousing suspicion. I have a feeling if you start
to get Chase QuickPays from all over the country every month Chase might get suspicious; personally, I'm surprised my Chase account is still open with all the poker checks I've deposited into it over the years.

Anyways, I have all of those methods ready except Green Dot. I've been reading this thread and the horror stories, about things like Chase QuickPay possibly bouncing on you. It seems Green Dot is more popular than Netspend, which I don't understand; I think Netspend cards are cheaper. If I have to get a Green Dot card to trade, I will.

Per reading NoFX, it seems the best thing to do would be have them deposit cash directly into your checking acct by giving them your name & acct #. I don't think this is a very popular method, however. People might feel weird about doing that; they would be afraid someone is going to ask them what this money is for. Whereas buying a Green Dot card and emailing a poker money seller a code is no big deal.

I've done Netspend transfers before with a buddy, and those are pretty anonymous. Only thing is once I got a physical letter from Netspend pointing out that you can't gamble with your netspend card anymore; so I'm a little leery about using it. Again, I worry that if they see transfers from all over he USA, they will close my account or disable p2p xfers. So the need to diversify payment methods arises again.

I figure one transfer every 1-2 months per method would put you way under the radar.

Since I have no positive feedback yet, I was thinking of doing a Carbon / RPM trade. Again, what is Merge's view on this? After all, you can't send money directly across skins on the Merge network. Only within the same skin. So a Carbon / RPM trade obviously is bypassing this restriction. Is Merge going to shut your account down if you go too far with these types of transfers? Have there been cases like that in the past? In my case I don't think it will matter, I'm just looking to make one transfer of $100 to get a good reputation started. Then I would like to start trading money for Green Dot cards or Netspend transfers.

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Edit/MH: See http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=547

The only thing I would be careful about is trying moving a lot of money at once using netspend or greendot without reading their limit rates. GDMP has been known to freeze some accounts if you are receiving too many transfers at once.

Banks generally wouldn't complain if you start receiving transfers from various people as that is a service they provide to you for opening up an account with them. If they try to probe, simply tell them your friends were paying back some money you lent them, etc. If they really do push it, then open up a bank account somewhere else.

OP means Opening Post.

here it is
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...25&postcount=1

Can someone post or PM me step-by-step instructions on how to receive payment through GDMP or NS. Do I have to buy a card to receive payment through these ways? What's the deal with phone numbers and email?

NLNut wrote a whole post about it http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...tspend-984233/

Ah thank you, I found the thread you linked yesterday, reading comprehension ftl.

so what do you recommend for someone who wants to get money off carbon poker without having to wait the decade it takes to get paid from this site?? please help, is there any other safe options

Bank transfer, if you don't mind paying a little vig.

hey, have you done this yet successfully, I am looking to do this with carbon poker. please let me know your experience and any tips to do this without gettting scammed

how does this work, can you explain. and how is this legit?

In the P2P Transfers thread (Internet Poker, where you are now), you can trade with other posters.

Read the first page of that thread with helpful tips, as well as my 10 Tip Trading Guideline stickied on the first page of this thread, I will link it below for you:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...5&postcount=13

In your case, you would be looking to trade Merge money for a bank transfer, or whatever method you prefer. Some posters use Chase QP, MoneyBookers, Ewallets, etc.

Doing these trades is are at your own risk, and I highly recommend trading with a reputable poster on here, who has had numerous successful trades in the P2P Transfers Thread.

Sigh. You are a complete idiot who didn't follow any of the rules in the MUST READ OR YOU WILL BE RIPPED OFF opening post to this thread. If you possessed any common sense at all you would realise this is not someone you want to trade with, and in no way ever is some new moron an account you should be sending to first. Again, we cover all this in the MUST READ OP that you didn't read because A) you're an idiot who wants to be ripped off or B) because you think you know better. There are no other explanations for that level of stupidity.

I mean, how much plainer can I make it that people should not trade with someone than this post below?

12-09-2011
Honestly, morons like you make me feel we're wasting our time. Maybe pointing out your idiocy will make the other dumb/new posters in here actually think before just giving thieves their money.

Wow this guy pmed me also. He didn't wanna send first while I had many refs. He said every time he was gonna send now and than didn't respond to my pms for hours. Knew something wasn't right, but he kept saying he was at work and couldn't check his email all the time and that I didn't understand his English lol.

First off there is no trading in this thread. This thread is question/answer only regaridng the P2P transfers thread for posters seeking trading advice, etc.

Second, when you do post over in the P2P thread, make sure to include your online SN of which you will be trading to/from or a Mod who overlooks the P2P transfers thread will infract you.

My bad, too many windows open in browser lol

OK, ignore my previous post, http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=532, finished reading the other posts and they answered my questions.

New question - it is recommended that you might want to trade in increments. I can see how this would work with Chase QuickPay, but how would it work for GreenDot?

Let's say I want to trade $100 and I get 4 $25 transactions - then that person has to load their GreenDot card 4 times with $25 and get 4 codes, incurring a ~$5 fee each time?

Yea don't do that, lol.

Just continue to read, here's a kind of hidden page we put together: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...tspend-984233/

You can if you use Amazon Payments. You are able to send and receive money, as well as withdraw to your bank account or a gift card.

https://payments.amazon.com/sdui/sdui/personal
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Im fixing to get a gdmp for the first time so that im able to start trading in here. I see that you can purchase either a visa or mc with gdmp card. Does it matter which one i get? Any help/responses are appreciated, ty.

More info here (Visa recommended)
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...tspend-984233/