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11-17-2022 , 04:27 PM
This is Zac... I don't know who you were speaking to, but it wasn't me. That's not my Cash App and I don't work with BSB. I would suggest looking for groups on 2+2 or Reddit. Furthermore, check the spelling or whatever on who you were talking to. I've never spoken with you on Telegram.

As for 2+2, I find it abhorrent to be banned without being given a chance to respond or comment on this. Absolutely ridiculous. I've been in the poker community for over fifteen years and would never sully my reputation over this nonsense.

I can be reached at
grinder#3546 discord

Thank you
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11-17-2022 , 04:33 PM
We have a policy of not allowing scammers to abuse the forum. You are aware that you had a prior incident of misusing the forum by PM spamming people. The fact that you were banned when you then were accused of being a scammer, with what appeared to be credible proof, was consistent with the forum's prior practice. However, since you came into ATF and asked why you were banned, I asked that you not be banned again without being given an opportunity to respond, so here you are. I would suggest that this account not be banned so that you can attempt to assist the poster to resolve the situation. If it becomes apparent that you are not the scammer, I will discuss with the admin who banned you restoring your original account (but it's not my decision to make).
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11-17-2022 , 04:34 PM
I also want to add that this rando hasn't provided any evidence of communication with me on telegram, Discord, Facebook or anywhere. I really hate if this person got ripped, but I genuinely don't know who you are and won't tolerate MY name being ran through the mud.
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11-17-2022 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by niss
We have a policy of not allowing scammers to abuse the forum. You are aware that you had a prior incident of misusing the forum by PM spamming people. The fact that you were banned when you then were being accused of being a scammer was consistent with the forum's prior practice. However, since you came into ATF and asked why you were banned, I asked that you not be banned again without being given an opportunity to respond, so here you are.

Thank you for allowing me to respond.

1.) It's true that several DM's I sent were against the TOS. A moderator reached out to me and gave me infractions. Since then I've had no issues. Also, I was told my messages were solicitation. I was never accused of being a g-d scammer. I should have known the forum rules about this and that's on me .

However, my point still stands that there's not a shred of evidence that this user ever had a conversation with me. This is so frustrating.
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11-17-2022 , 04:39 PM
Please have this person contact ME personally.

grinder#3546 discord
VaporKingX - Telegram

Thank you
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11-17-2022 , 04:39 PM
I don't work for YOU.
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11-17-2022 , 04:49 PM
Well I can't PM so I have no idea how to contact this person to see what's going on.
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11-17-2022 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by niss
I don't work for YOU.
Wasn't trying to come off that way to you. I'm just very frustrated at whatever this is. My contact info was listed several times if OP or 2+2 want to get ahold of me further. Thank you.
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11-17-2022 , 05:09 PM
Got it. No hard feelings. Hopefully by posting your info here the other guy will contact you. I'll send him a PM directing him to the thread since you're not able to do so.
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11-17-2022 , 05:26 PM
VaporKingX on telegram has been deleted

Sent from my SM-A125U using Tapatalk
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11-17-2022 , 05:30 PM
That telegram in the above search is indeed me, and it's always been VaporKingX.
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11-17-2022 , 05:33 PM
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11-17-2022 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by VaporKingxxx
Please have this person contact ME personally.

grinder#3546 discord
VaporKingX - Telegram

Thank you
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Originally Posted by Shakey90
USED THE NAME VAPORKINGX ON TELEGRAM.
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Originally Posted by Shakey90
VaporKingX on telegram has been deleted
What is your new Telegram address, VaporKing?

Last edited by Mike Haven; 11-17-2022 at 05:39 PM.
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11-17-2022 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
What is your new Telegram address, VaporKing?
Please see above -- I have shown that my telegram is indeed VaporKingx
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11-17-2022 , 05:43 PM
Shakey, please contact me and show the correspondence? I'm still confused - my TG isn't deleted and it's the same it's been -- the same name you claimed to contact me on, but have provided no proof of communication.
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11-17-2022 , 05:47 PM
Why would it just show up X and not VaporkingX? That doesn't make sense to me. And if you don't mind could you provide your cash app tag? The last thing I want to do is accuse someone not something they didn't do, but if someone was using mt name to scam people I would do everything in my power to find out who it was.

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11-17-2022 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Shakey90
Why would it just show up X and not VaporkingX? That doesn't make sense to me. And if you don't mind could you provide your cash app tag? The last thing I want to do is accuse someone not something they didn't do, but if someone was using mt name to scam people I would do everything in my power to find out who it was.

Sent from my SM-A125U using Tapatalk

On Telegram, there's two names:

1.) Your Tag, Handle or Name. In this regard, my "name" is 'X'.

2.) Your TG handle. Mine is VaporKingX. It's what someone can search on Telegram to find them and contact them.

I'm not comfortable putting my personal cash app on a public forum, but I can tell you that this isn't myself.

I feel awful if you got ripped, but that wasn't by me. It would appear someone changed their "name" to spoof you. But they can't spoof a TG handle. That's why it's important to click the profile and confirm the handle. This would have shown that theirs wasn't VaporKingX.

This is not meant to be condescending, but I would highly suggest *not* looking on Facebook for clubs. It's a haven of bullshit and I'm sorry this happened to you.
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11-17-2022 , 06:04 PM
Poker is my life and reputation is everything here. I'm making the move into a full-time pro and I do not want any reason for my relationships to be tarnished, man.

Since there is no proof of the alleged conversations, across any channels, I would like to petition for my account to be unbanned asap.
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11-17-2022 , 06:13 PM
Man it is what it is, you don't wanna put your cashapp tag out here, that's fine, I searched VaporKingX on telegram, I communicated with this person via telegram, sent them a cashapp transfer with the tag $zacseif, and then the telegram messages / account VaporkingX was deleted. And now you are just "X". People can make their own choice. If it wasn't you then someone is using your stuff to scam people.

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11-17-2022 , 06:19 PM



Happens more often than you'd think. Here's an example of a fake shane that contacted me last week. I messaged on this forum to confirm and he let me know to block them.

If you want to reach out in private I'll share my cash app with you.

I sincerely wish you the best, sir.
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11-17-2022 , 08:32 PM
VaporKing

In an effort to move on from this stalemate, might I suggest that you ask your uncle, Mark Seif, to come on here to vouch for you?

Thank you.
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11-17-2022 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
VaporKing

In an effort to move on from this stalemate, might I suggest that you ask your uncle, Mark Seif, to come on here to vouch for you?

Thank you.
Feels a little below the rim but sure, I'll reach out and ask. 🤝.
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11-18-2022 , 06:22 AM
VaporKing

Thank you.

You see, the thing is that when two new users are in a spat it's even more difficult than usual to be certain which one is telling the truth. (In your case, even though you opened your account in 2014 to make 3 posts, you then disappeared until October 2022, after which return you made 50 (remaining) posts in under a month.)

Anything you can do to clear your name for future readers is obviously in your best interests.
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11-18-2022 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
VaporKing

Thank you.

You see, the thing is that when two new users are in a spat it's even more difficult than usual to be certain which one is telling the truth. (In your case, even though you opened your account in 2014 to make 3 posts, you then disappeared until October 2022, after which return you made 50 (remaining) posts in under a month.)

Anything you can do to clear your name for future readers is obviously in your best interests.
I agree, it just feels like a baseless claim against me. There's nothing posted that even suggests me and this individual ever even spoke. There's a transaction and a random screenshot of him and a club which suggests the club had no idea who OP was talking to. The frustration comes with account closure based on this and my reputation already suffering damage because I was in the middle of several deals that may end up being void now because I appear as banned. Having said all that, I did reach out to Mark and request he come here.

All the best.
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11-18-2022 , 11:13 AM
Unfortunately I can not post screenshots of any conversations I had with VaporkingX because the messages we deleted by the other party and Telegram is encrypted, so likely impossible to recover unless the other party messages me. That is a mistake on my part and I get that. In reference to the DMs I received, I could not respond because I guess I dont have access yet, but I did try to search Telegram for any type variation of VaporkingX (i.e Vap0rking) and found no results. I also get that accusing someone of scamming is very serious .Zac if this wasn't you I sincerely apologize for all this. I realize I'm new to the forums, and all that, but this is all the screenshots I have , even though it may not be enough for some. I'm just trying to put it out there so no one else makes the mistakes I made. Zac, would you be willing to contact cashapp in reference to someone using your name as their tag in a fraudulent manner? Because a transfer of 300 was made to the tag $zacseif.
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