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Does anyone know who Mike Degilio is?

I just woke up and he has apparently sent me money, and my responses are in a totally different way of speaking than my normal. Its possible this is an old convo but I am kinda worried

Did you PM me regarding a Moneybookers transfer? I received a message from you...

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01-14-2013 , 04:49 PM

#3277

doncolo

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 282

I posted a request for a swap in the exchange thread and received a PM from gimmetheloot for $7.5k, but he used a comma (7,5k) and also his skype contact info (I haven't accepted yet) is in german. Also, 7.5k seems to be much larger than he normally has been asking for in previous threads. If he's wondering here why he's getting money, then there may be reason to be alarmed.

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01-14-2013 , 05:05 PM

#3278

TheBrokenATM!

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 32,727

Yes can we make a note sice it looks this account was compromised? Maybe he need to change his pw ASAP.

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01-14-2013 , 05:08 PM

#3279

jh1711

No freakin title????????

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 3,743

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Originally Posted by doncolo

I would definitely be very careful.

I don't want to accuse gimmetheloot of anything. But I have the feeling that this might be an account that can still be used by the original owner, but is already used by a scammer. The problem is that whoever changes the password first has control of the account, and it might be difficult to tell.

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01-14-2013 , 05:13 PM

#3280

Rainbow Warrior

flight risk

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,815

The recent scammer has been sharing the account by getting in, sending PMs, deleting them from the "Sent Items" and logging off.

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01-14-2013 , 05:15 PM

#3281

macgyver72

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 695

I contacted Lock about getting scammed by the Zamees account. Of course they said since it happened on a 3rd party site that there was nothing that could be done and that the funds have been "spent". Am I just screwed at this point?

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01-14-2013 , 05:15 PM

#3282

doncolo

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 282

OK, this is the PM I received:

"hey pal!

i can get 7,5k USD done for u at xe rate
http://www.xe.com/

pokertraders@gmail.com jason wells $

ill be out now for at least 8 hrs and will send the funds when im back.. if ur not fine with shipping first leave me ur skype and we can work sth out/do it in increments"

Obv suspicious that he would not be around for eight hours right after PMing me, makes sense though if he needs the account while the actual owner is asleep, especially if he doesnt have control of his email account. What can we do for now, since apparently people are sending already.

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01-14-2013 , 05:22 PM

#3283

jkidd1084

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 527

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Originally Posted by gimmetheloot

I am Mike DeGilio. I posted yesterday offering 2k MB for a wire. You PM'ed me offering a wire at .98 and whatever wire fee. 2k MB was sent and I added you to Skype "Jason Wells". Spoke on Skype and you confirmed you received the money and said you would wire asap. Received a message this morning saying the money was wired and to let you know when I get it.. Let me know what is going on...

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01-14-2013 , 05:24 PM

#3284

Woolworth

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 343

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Originally Posted by macgyver72

Probably. Same response for me in regards to jimbo5672 and Pi707.And I only mean that in as much of a sense as the rest of us are screwed who were scammed this week. How do we really know that half the money wasn't still in the account(s) and that lock doesn't just confiscate it? In that case, it would be in their interest for scams to take place...

I get that it's my (mostly) my fault for dealing with half reputable people and getting scammed, but how do I know (in my situation, that Pi707 or jimbo5672 didn't spend half the money) and now Lock didn't just seize the rest... super shady to me.

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01-14-2013 , 05:37 PM

#3285

TheBrokenATM!

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 32,727

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Originally Posted by Woolworth

I know right? One guy scammed me. So I got his account terminated or locked at juicy and lock. Since I sent to his juicy so I can get lock.
So then juicy told me the recover half...
So when I contacted lock they said he's account was empty.
But then the guy decided to pay back and told me he can't access his lock account but that he had some money and was wondering if they gave it to me.
So deff shady things go on...

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01-14-2013 , 05:37 PM

#3286

Rainbow Warrior

flight risk

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,815

re Lock or any other poker site

they would rather not deal with issues and will brush you off at first.

Be politley persistent and inform them that you have proof and will send it.
Request that the other account be frozen until their security staff checks out your claim.

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01-14-2013 , 05:58 PM

#3287

Rainbow Warrior

flight risk

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,815

jkidd1084 sent $2k MoneyBookers to
pokertraders@gmail.com name is Jason Wells

That email belongs to banned scammer W1ck3d0n3 .

REPORT

gimmetheloot's account was hacked - he had't posted for a trade in over a month.

Traders must be careful.

Those who lose their accounts through phishing or easy passwords and then want us to give them their accounts back can forget it.

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01-14-2013 , 06:13 PM

#3288

cbayly12

banned

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 884

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Originally Posted by Rainbow Warrior

macgyver72 was PMed by hacked account Zamees re a Lock trade
babar86, presumably hacked as well, vouched for Zamees

macgyver72 only caught on when the real Zamees received email notice of his PMs (a 2+2 option) and emailed macgyver wondering what was going on.

This was the pm sent by the hacked babar86

Zamees, who I am in touch with via email, had never made a trade and does not know babar86.

babar86 was also used to PM others as a reference for surfdoc

I am receiving confirmation from owners of hacked accounts of easily guessable passwords although the viral image links are possible in some cases.

These all trace to Justin Archuleta

Beat: Scammed for 1k by Justin Archuleta
My lock account was hacked for over 100k (Cliffs = post 564)
7k Lock theft by hijacked account PaperEmpire
$790 Netspend theft by hijacked surfdoc

So why can I not have him prosecuted? 2+2 has his location and I think there is enough evidence to file something against him criminally??

I don't understand why he still gets away with this?

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01-14-2013 , 06:17 PM

#3289

Mike Haven

Moderotor of Moderots

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 14,560

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Originally Posted by cbayly12

So why can I not have him prosecuted? 2+2 has his location and I think there is enough evidence to file something against him criminally??

I don't understand why he still gets away with this?

So if TPT knows his location as, say, Berlin, or wherever his IP address comes from, (if he wasn't using a VPN, which he is), what use is that?

By the way, TPT will release IP addresses to proper authorities, if asked.

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01-14-2013 , 06:44 PM

#3290

Bobo Fett

Carpe Diem

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 57,025

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Originally Posted by cbayly12

So why can I not have him prosecuted? 2+2 has his location and I think there is enough evidence to file something against him criminally??

I don't understand why he still gets away with this?

Who said he can't be prosecuted or that he gets away with this? It's up to you where you decide to take this.

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01-14-2013 , 07:21 PM

#3291

aintnobodyrilla

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 402

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Originally Posted by jvclements

Just so everyone knows what's up. He said my GDMP code did not work for him. I don't know why but I ended up loading it back on my card just fine a few hours later. I have agreed to make a $40 chase deposit into his account for the $57 he shipped. The agreement is I will do it after work on Monday so he will have it by 5:30pm EST. Will have him confirm this.

Just wanted everyone to know that I did recieve the $40 bank deposit. Everything is now settled. Thanks.

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01-14-2013 , 10:34 PM

#3292

jkidd1084

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 527

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Originally Posted by Rainbow Warrior

I would also suggest not doing ANY business with the real "gimmetheloot" "Jason Wells". He was completely classless about the whole situation, admitted negligence and guilt and refuses to pay a dime. Cursing at me, insulting me. Assuming he wasn't the one to actually do the scamming, I would still highly recommend avoiding this person.

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01-14-2013 , 10:35 PM

#3293

BigBadBabar

California Elephant

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,601

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Originally Posted by jkidd1084

i don't understand - were you talking with the scammer?

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01-14-2013 , 10:44 PM

#3294

jkidd1084

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 527

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Originally Posted by BigBadBabar

i don't understand - were you talking with the scammer?

No. He is claiming that his Skype and 2p2 passwords were extremely easy to guess and were also identical. He claims that this person used both accounts last night and this morning to complete the transaction. He is now speaking to me on the SAME Skype account that I spoke with yesterday and this morning. The MB account was also under the name Jason Wells. They coincidentally have the same exact name?

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01-14-2013 , 10:51 PM

#3295

BigBadBabar

California Elephant

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,601

seems likely you are still talking to the scammer. perhaps someone on 2+2 is friends with gimmetheloot irl and can point him to get in touch with you, or knows his phone number or facebook or something

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01-14-2013 , 10:52 PM

#3296

cbayly12

banned

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 884

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

Who said he can't be prosecuted or that he gets away with this? It's up to you where you decide to take this.

I contacted a mod to get his location, but they could only confirm it was the same location as his previously know location. I know it's Texas, but I need a little more information to pursue this.

How would you recommend handling this?

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01-14-2013 , 10:55 PM

#3297

jkidd1084

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 527

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Originally Posted by BigBadBabar

It's not "the scammer". He told me his actual MB account and has been in contact with mods here I believe. I'm almost certain the person I'm talking to right now is the person who is supposedly the actual owner of the 2p2/Skype accounts gimmetheloot and Jason Wells.

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01-14-2013 , 10:56 PM

#3298

cbayly12

banned

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 884

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Originally Posted by Mike Haven

Ah, I see. But there still has to be some way for us to handle this. I'd rather not discuss it publicly on this forum because I'm sure he reads this, but I'm sure he's scammed quite a few people and I think a combined effort could take care of him.

He's obviously very good at what he does, so if no one stops him he will continue doing this forever.

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01-14-2013 , 11:05 PM

#3299

jamthe3

banned

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,269

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Originally Posted by gimmetheloot

So was this post by the real one or the scammer; seems kind of odd if it was the scammer why he would've posted this; and, if it was the real one, why won't he send the money back?