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Originally Posted by TurnerBPoker
I would've never joined a backing group if I knew I had to pay any money back. I told you guys I couldn't keep going because I had personal issues and actually quit poker for a few months after I told these guys I wouldn't play because of a family member passing along with other personal issues. I paid 1k back before I talked to other poker players to see if I had to pay makeup back and they said I didn't if I stopped playing. These guys continued to harass me, even someone in the group repeatedly harrassed my girlfriend and my work. I actually paid back the money the one time I paid cash games on top of the 1000 I paid them back cause I had a very bad day. I'm in no way a scammer, as I've had 100% positive trading history since I've started. This was my first ever backing group and like I said I wouldn't of joined if I knew I had to actually pay money back. What's the point of even being backed then?
Hey Guys,
I'd like to address few of the points here that Brandon Turner is speaking of.
If he quit poker he would no longer have to pay make up.
1) Although this is somewhat true and depends on the contract you have signed.
I would consider this a bit towards the impolite/ rude side of things in general. It seems like the easiest freeroll for someone who would want to quit to just start firing a bunch of tournaments with intentions of just shoving all in every hand until they make a final table and if they bust all the bankroll they can tell the backer that they quit poker so they don't owe them anything.
2) We came to a $3,000 dollar agreement (he paid $1,000 of it) & we went off on our own way. We gave him multiple ways and were flexible about the monthly installment. In the end we understood that he needed time so we set it at a $200 / month payment plan.
3) Even if #1 was in fact true, he is still playing poker, and he is totally lying here that he quit.
He binked a tournament here as stated in my 2p2 posting:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=4670
You can see in fact that he binked the tournament here:
https://gyazo.com/7dc43ad801c40309cbaef523109fef51
Secondly in regards to messaging his girlfriend and a group on Facebook whom eventually kicked him out because they deemed him as a scammer.
We only messaged people to see what went wrong because I saw you actively posting on twoplustwo, we messaged you and you simply kept ignoring us even though you told us earlier after you binked this specific tournament:
"I did, but that money has been paid towards my car loan.
I'd prefer to keep our agreement of the monthly payments.
I'm not gonna dodge you guys. Itll get paid back in full."
https://gyazo.com/52513c7fe02d9b20a0108ea230ec7129
We got the payment, suddenly you decided you no longer owe use any money even though we came to that initial agreement. I think we were being very reasonable about it to be honest and even gave you a few months without messaging your GF or the facebook group that we eventually got you kicked out of. We messaged you for a few months asking for the $200 payment as agreed upon and you ghosted us. Simple as that.
Third. What's the point of being backed?
1) Can learn from coaches who has experience playing Mid to High Stakes MTT
2) Be part of a community of other students whom you can learn from
3) Have the opportunity (once enough trust+skill is built, to play high stakes poker one day). We've already had success with a few of our students whom does such things.
4) You signed a contract that specifically says this that make up will be added... I don't think it's fair that you are claiming lack of awareness here.
Brandon has in my opinion totally lost his core sense of values of what is right and wrong here, the fact that he says he quit poker for a few months and you can see above he binked in tournaments is just a testament to his lack of character here. Along with the feeling that it is alright to agree to an arrangement only to back out from it. Maybe he is young and naive, I may give him that...
However I believe wholeheartedly he is in the wrong here, and I believe the only way for him to rectify the situation & clear his name entirely is if he settles the $2,000 USD.
A message to the Moderators & Mike Haven:
I do not want to clutter this thread, but I feel I had no choice but to respond here to defend myself due to Brandon Turner posting here.
If it was not the correct place to post, please let me know what I am suppose to do moving forward here.
LFGStaking