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07-13-2020 , 06:08 PM
Glad they're paying back bit by bit, but it should still be a black mark on them. No trade should ever take more than 30 minutes, unless expressly agreed to by both parties unless the trade is being help up by the site itself.

You know right away if you can't send what you agreed to send right away for pretty much all methods used to trade. If you can't do that immediately then you should reach out to the other party and give them the option of getting their money back right away instead of holding on to it and hoping that you can send later on.

Last edited by HomeStar; 07-13-2020 at 06:15 PM.
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07-13-2020 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by a dewd
Ok, asked to clear some things up....

The person that asked for the swap did so on a channel in our private group. Someone responded and they came to terms. The total amount was just over 3K. Most was settled quickly. There is a curren outstanding balance of $700.

To be fair all non judging. The player involved has been in constant contact for all but a 6 hr block of time over the weekend. They sent me a zelle to hold as security or forward on. There are some small complications that added to logistical issues.

A member sent this individual ACR money. They recieved 2300+ back quickly but they requested only PayPal. Some monies were sent as an echeck and there are supposedly issues with third party processors amd converting cash into PayPal accounts.

The debtor, for lack of better words, has been in touch today and said it should be resolved this afternoon/evening, at the very least the majority of it. The player owed the money prefers not to get too specific since there has been contact all along. Their preference is to be made whole and to not shame someone if they follow through, even if late. They have said if there is no progress, they will update me later tonight and take things from there.

We are fairly certain that true ID is known, aliases used in various platforms, and ACR is aware of what is happening. There were several people involved, third parties, in sending PayPal, so things might be a bit convoluted and appear more habitual them a one off thing.

Soon as the player updates me, will update here. If the balance goes unpaid, all names/accounts will be posted, too
ty very much, keep the updates coming.

Fanaticnyc still hasn't hit me with any word, since Saturday 3pm, seems unlikely that he is willing to do pay me back at the moment.
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07-13-2020 , 06:43 PM
I know who you are via the guy the delivered the ACR funds. I'll make sure you hear back and do what I can to get you whole.

Last edited by a dewd; 07-13-2020 at 06:55 PM.
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07-14-2020 , 11:35 AM
An update on this recent mess....

Fanaticnyc joined our discord recently. He talked to another member that was looking to move off some ACR. The player shipped over 3K in total. The day of the I intial P2P, $2,350 came back to him pretty much immediately through various accounts. There was a shortage WhoCares?/FanaticNYC shipped me a zelle for $300 as security for the balance.

The zelle came with the name Tahir Patankar. Tahir is attached to multiple accounts on ACR and BCP. He told several people he goes by the name Ali. Tahir is in NY. We have his cell phone number as he was texting several people directly. The person using WhoCares? in the discord claimed he is not Tahir, just Tahir sent the zelle for him. Oddly enough, Tahir must also let him use his cell since it is registered to Tahir Patankar through a business, where he is an agent.

The player owed the money was assured he would have at least 60% of the balance last night. He did not. WhoCares? contacted him and I'm told it was a bit feisty initially. There was a substantial calming when specific details of his life, address, business, etc... was revealed. In other words, come clean, you are caught.

The current terms, not at all what was supposed to be, or should ever be, is $300 on the 24th of July and then discuss the balance.

I've been in direct contact with WPN about this and gave them all the details and screenshots. They are looking into it from their end and I'll update any news. Tahir/dba123 played a $50+5 MTT on ACR yesterday. He has not offered to send the finds back. We are optimistic that WPN will correct a lot of the P2P that were done with the player.

It is peculiar in that there were many swaps posted in this thread we have found with Tahir/FanaticNYC being successful. There are also bad ones going back several years. These "swaps" are starting to seem more like unauthorized loans and if there was some run good, all paid back and/or moving funds from player to player with him in the middle for a puece. I cannot come up with any other logical reasons for the largely good record of swaps vs bad ones. Just a presumption, no proof of either being true. There is virtually no doubt that Tahir, FanaticNYC, dba123, KrushedDreamz are all the same person. Otherwise, Tahir allows his identity to be used for poker purposes.

Will update as we get more info. If anyone has specific info, please send to me privately. If this is an ongoing habit, it is likely to be crossing the lines of legality and a full package will be sent off to the Nassau County District Attorney's office.

We hope for a friendly resolution and just part ways. It is up to FanaticNYC. I believe if he came clean 100% the person owed the money would be patient and work with him.
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07-14-2020 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by a dewd
An update on this recent mess....

Fanaticnyc joined our discord recently. He talked to another member that was looking to move off some ACR. The player shipped over 3K in total. The day of the I intial P2P, $2,350 came back to him pretty much immediately through various accounts. There was a shortage WhoCares?/FanaticNYC shipped me a zelle for $300 as security for the balance.

The zelle came with the name Tahir Patankar. Tahir is attached to multiple accounts on ACR and BCP. He told several people he goes by the name Ali. Tahir is in NY. We have his cell phone number as he was texting several people directly. The person using WhoCares? in the discord claimed he is not Tahir, just Tahir sent the zelle for him. Oddly enough, Tahir must also let him use his cell since it is registered to Tahir Patankar through a business, where he is an agent.

The player owed the money was assured he would have at least 60% of the balance last night. He did not. WhoCares? contacted him and I'm told it was a bit feisty initially. There was a substantial calming when specific details of his life, address, business, etc... was revealed. In other words, come clean, you are caught.

The current terms, not at all what was supposed to be, or should ever be, is $300 on the 24th of July and then discuss the balance.

I've been in direct contact with WPN about this and gave them all the details and screenshots. They are looking into it from their end and I'll update any news. Tahir/dba123 played a $50+5 MTT on ACR yesterday. He has not offered to send the finds back. We are optimistic that WPN will correct a lot of the P2P that were done with the player.

It is peculiar in that there were many swaps posted in this thread we have found with Tahir/FanaticNYC being successful. There are also bad ones going back several years. These "swaps" are starting to seem more like unauthorized loans and if there was some run good, all paid back and/or moving funds from player to player with him in the middle for a puece. I cannot come up with any other logical reasons for the largely good record of swaps vs bad ones. Just a presumption, no proof of either being true. There is virtually no doubt that Tahir, FanaticNYC, dba123, KrushedDreamz are all the same person. Otherwise, Tahir allows his identity to be used for poker purposes.

Will update as we get more info. If anyone has specific info, please send to me privately. If this is an ongoing habit, it is likely to be crossing the lines of legality and a full package will be sent off to the Nassau County District Attorney's office.

We hope for a friendly resolution and just part ways. It is up to FanaticNYC. I believe if he came clean 100% the person owed the money would be patient and work with him.
What a low life
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07-15-2020 , 08:32 PM
not sure what exact trade thread to post this in but had another "lmawhale26" with an L skype add me obv a scammer as hes a popular person to impersonate over the years. He wanted me to send paypal to imawhale26staking@gmail.com. Just a heads up there is another imawhale skype scammer making its rounds again

Last edited by Mike Haven; 07-15-2020 at 09:30 PM.
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07-16-2020 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TurnerBPoker
Have $700 more. Will be home around 2am EST to make any trades.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=7852

So much for banning this guy from the p2p thread.. Mods can we just assume this guy should be banned from the entire forum?
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07-16-2020 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dalsue214
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=7852

So much for banning this guy from the p2p thread.. Mods can we just assume this guy should be banned from the entire forum?
Over 100 no issue trades on here, but I have one issue with one backing group and I deserved to be banned entirely? Seems like jailing someone for life for having under an oz of marijuana. Pretty extreme.
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07-16-2020 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TurnerBPoker
Over 100 no issue trades on here, but I have one issue with one backing group and I deserved to be banned entirely? Seems like jailing someone for life for having under an oz of marijuana. Pretty extreme.
You have more trades than posts, how'd you do that? lol...

I like you but I do agree you should be banned from trading until you work out a repayment plan with your backers. Mike also said he was banning you, so I figured you had worked something out with them, but apparently not on either front.
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07-16-2020 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by HomeStar
You have more trades than posts, how'd you do that? lol...

I like you but I do agree you should be banned from trading until you work out a repayment plan with your backers. Mike also said he was banning you, so I figured you had worked something out with them, but apparently not on either front.
I don't post about every single trade I do on here.
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07-17-2020 , 03:11 PM
Any update on the fanaticnyc situation?

I’ve done couple trades with him and he would also ask to send to different SNs on ACR (d33z_nuts , spacedout2far, dba123) and zelle was Tahir Patankar. Also I believe the first trade we did he sent from another zelle id have to check records but after that it was Tahir.

After that I told him I don’t feel comfortable swapping with different SNs or people. Idk if he was middleman or w.e it just didn’t make sense. It was always he was at a friends or this or that and just sketchy. And he vouches for this person and will make good if anything happened.

Did he scam someone? Has he been in touch with anyone recently and gave explanation?

If there’s anything I can do LMK

Thanks!

Last edited by TradeOC; 07-17-2020 at 03:21 PM.
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07-24-2020 , 09:45 PM
Warning to all this guy blocked me via text after having his brother send me cashapp for ACR to only dispute the transaction a month later and have the funds ($300) instantly deducted from my bank account. The reason i have his number is because after the cashapp transaction, we completed multiple other transactions via apple pay (need mobile #).

I will be filing a police repot (he claims to live in LA, but his cell number is in detroit). The cashapp from his brother is $BBrooks12296. He asks you to send to his horses or brothers account: BullDozer12296 on ACR.

Also he claimed via text that he can't afford to refund the 300 to me because hes not rich yet hes here asking for 2k almost every other day. Beware do not get scammed, it may seem ok at first but a month later and they may reverse the transaction and block you.

Please beware.

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Originally Posted by shipthemula
Need $2000 ACR (SportsBetJunkie)

Have Zelle, Apple Pay, Venmo.

Have plenty of trades in this thread if you search my history. Will only send first to members that are more reputable than myself.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 07-25-2020 at 05:35 AM.
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07-24-2020 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tucknasty
Warning to all this guy blocked me via text after having his brother send me cashapp for ACR to only dispute the transaction a month later and have the funds ($300) instantly deducted from my bank account. The reason i have his number is because after the cashapp transaction, we completed multiple other transactions via apple pay (need mobile #).

I will be filing a police repot (he claims to live in LA, but his cell number is in detroit). The cashapp from his brother is $BBrooks12296. He asks you to send to his horses or brothers account: BullDozer12296 on ACR.

Also he claimed via text that he can't afford to refund the 300 to me because hes not rich yet hes here asking for 2k almost every other day. Beware do not get scammed, it may seem ok at first but a month later and they may reverse the transaction and block you.

Please beware.
This cant be possible can it? I find it hard to believe they not only reversed the transaction but automatically deducted it from your bank account.

Last edited by Boss716; 07-24-2020 at 10:48 PM.
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07-24-2020 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Boss716
This cant be possible can it? I find it hard to believe they not only reversed the transaction but automatically deducted it from your bank account.
Yup per cashapp TOS. I have screenshots to confirm any questionable activity.

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Originally Posted by Boss716
This cant be possible can it? I find it hard to believe they not only reversed the transaction but automatically deducted it from your bank account.
If you do not have the money in your cashapp account then they deduct it from your primary funding method, in this case my debit card.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 07-25-2020 at 05:35 AM. Reason: 2 posts merged
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07-24-2020 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tucknasty
Warning to all this guy blocked me via text after having his brother send me cashapp for ACR to only dispute the transaction a month later and have the funds ($300) instantly deducted from my bank account. The reason i have his number is because after the cashapp transaction, we completed multiple other transactions via apple pay (need mobile #).

I will be filing a police repot (he claims to live in LA, but his cell number is in detroit). The cashapp from his brother is $BBrooks12296. He asks you to send to his horses or brothers account: BullDozer12296 on ACR.

Also he claimed via text that he can't afford to refund the 300 to me because hes not rich yet hes here asking for 2k almost every other day. Beware do not get scammed, it may seem ok at first but a month later and they may reverse the transaction and block you.

Please beware.
I recommend putting his 2+2 name in your post--just so more eyes will see this in case they search the thread.

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Edit/MH:

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Originally Posted by tucknasty
In the original post it is in the quote but good point regardless.

his 2 + 2 is shipthemula
ACR is sportsbetjunkie
Account he also asked people to send to BullDozer12296
cashapp $BBrooks12296

I also have his cell # due to the apple pay transactions but will not be posting on here for obvious legal reasons.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 07-25-2020 at 05:37 AM. Reason: Added SNs
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07-24-2020 , 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JMicLett
I recommend putting his 2+2 name in your post--just so more eyes will see this in case they search the thread.
In the original post it is in the quote but good point regardless.

his 2 + 2 is shipthemula
ACR is sportsbetjunkie
Account he also asked people to send to BullDozer12296
cashapp $BBrooks12296

I also have his cell # due to the apple pay transactions but will not be posting on here for obvious legal reasons.
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07-25-2020 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by tucknasty
In the original post it is in the quote but good point regardless.

his 2 + 2 is shipthemula
ACR is sportsbetjunkie
Account he also asked people to send to BullDozer12296
cashapp $BBrooks12296

I also have his cell # due to the apple pay transactions but will not be posting on here for obvious legal reasons.
I made trade with shipthemula two days ago. Sent $2,000 via ACR for Zelle. After I sent ACR he never sent Zelle payment. I am going to PM you for his information and will also be filing a police report.
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07-25-2020 , 10:48 AM
is there anyway to contact the people he's traded with in the past, I don't think many people here would notice a small amount like that suddenly missing from their account a month later

he's either been doing it for years or finally hit rock bottom and can no longer support his habit
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07-25-2020 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
is there anyway to contact the people he's traded with in the past ...
Search for his SN in the Transfers thread and PM the successful traders.

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Edit: [One hour later. Have completed searches and PMs, myself.]

I've PMed the 27 people with whom he traded over the last four months, per the Transfers thread, to ask if there were any problems.

74 of his 80 posts have been made in the last four months: 73 in this thread, and 1 in the Dispute thread about him:

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Originally Posted by shipthemula
Can this post get taken down, the issue was resolved promptly when I was finally made aware of the error. The whole thing was a misunderstanding.

Sidenote: chat is always turned off on my ACR

Last edited by Mike Haven; 07-26-2020 at 05:28 AM.
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07-25-2020 , 02:50 PM
weird, you'd figure some mod who has enough time to infract people who aren't even using his own thread in order to "protect the site" would suddenly care about an actual scammer and have the time to handle it
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07-25-2020 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
weird, you'd figure some mod who has enough time to infract people who aren't even using his own thread in order to "protect the site" would suddenly care about an actual scammer and have the time to handle it
I've read this post 3 times and still am not convinced I have it figured out. My best guess is that you're trying in some way to call Mike Haven out for not normally caring about scammers or something? That seems odd and pretty out of line considering he's spent countless volunteer hours doing exactly that for probably 15+ years now, so hopefully I have that wrong.
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07-25-2020 , 04:03 PM
1. still dont understand how he would have had the transaction reversed and automatically taken out of your bank account, thought it wasnt possible to reverse cash app transactions

2. his recent post looking for 2k is still allowed to stay in the trading thread lol? and why were all the posts about him scamming moved here? I never look here, I only did to see where the posts went. If I want to check someone's history I seeach the trading thread, and now there is no mention of it there.
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07-25-2020 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I've read this post 3 times and still am not convinced I have it figured out. My best guess is that you're trying in some way to call Mike Haven out for not normally caring about scammers or something? That seems odd and pretty out of line considering he's spent countless volunteer hours doing exactly that for probably 15+ years now, so hopefully I have that wrong.
had he not ninja edited the post it'd make more sense

i stand by my statement nonetheless
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07-25-2020 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Boss716
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2. his recent post looking for 2k is still allowed to stay in the trading thread lol? and why were all the posts about him scamming moved here? ... If I want to check someone's history I seeach the trading thread ...
He's temp-banned, for now, so he can't read or act on any PMs.

If you're searching only that thread, then you're doing it wrong. You wouldn't find any Dispute threads or anywhere else where someone has posted that an account has been involved in alleged scams, multi-accounting, or collusion.

All such posts are moved to the Transfers Chat and always have been. I have never heard anyone else saying they only search the Transfers thread, so you might be on your own in that one.
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07-25-2020 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
had he not ninja edited the post it'd make more sense

i stand by my statement nonetheless
Ninja schminja. My post was edited 8 minutes before you posted.
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