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01-19-2010 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Robusto1
Just to clarify, we do receive rakeback from the Rush right?
Yes, as long as you were dealt into the hand you get your rake even if you did that 'turbo fold' thing or whatever it's called.
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01-19-2010 , 05:50 PM
2 new 10NL pools aired.
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01-19-2010 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Robusto1
Just to clarify, we do receive rakeback from the Rush right?
obv
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01-19-2010 , 05:51 PM
It's innovative and fun and I'll rarely play it because I don't have rakeback at ftp.
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01-19-2010 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MachiavellianCarer
bollocks to this no history no reads shizz

just go over you session on HEM, analyse your opponents, then CTRL+F on full tilt to search players and edit their notes/colo(u)r coding--simples
This. How are people this ******ed? Of course you will still have reads. You think that you'll still be able to min-raise 100% of your hands once you've played 10k hands and there's a regular at your table every other hand? **** morons.
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01-19-2010 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by fred2k
Perhaps someone talked about this, but I didn't read all pages : how does FTP works ? Usualy if you fold preflop you still earn FTP, but in rush poker as you change table, does FTP points are still tracked and earned as usual ?
When you fold, you are not leaving immediatly, I mean your data packet remains to log the history and the RB stats. You just don't have to sit around and see it happen. PT picks up all the stats and updats them. Your session will have about 7-8 tables though. When you fold, you just go to another table to play while your left behind ghost folds for you.
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01-19-2010 , 05:57 PM
I played some of this today and it's a really interesting concept. Congrats to FTP for really thinking outside the box. It's fun and addicting but I bet within a month or two, people will figure out what the "optimal" strategy is for this and it will become super nitty super quick.

From my observations, play any pocket pair from any position for a reasonable raise and play your AA and KK super agressive = profit. I'm also clearing off my bonus super quick too which is nice.
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01-19-2010 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisFun123
antes for rush would be nutz
oh man, that would be good, especially with Omaha. Be nice to have the gambling back in poker.
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01-19-2010 , 05:57 PM
This idea is so wacky and fun I might actually give some of my play to FT to try it out.

Is it a resource-hog at all? Somehow I would think that constantly changing tables like that would be a weird resource-hog especially on a site like FT.
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01-19-2010 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mce86
When do the rush tournaments start! Now that should be interesting!
It would be ******ed when it gets down to a few tables. High blinds would make it a ridiculous crapshoot. It would also feel like hand for hand every hand as you'd be moved to new table and have to wait for it to fill while not being able to see how the last hand panned out without checking replayer every single hand. Ugh. You'd also have people stalling trying to manipulate the seat rearrangement so they get moved same time as a fish (whether of not this would work wouldn't necessarily stop them trying~like blackjack players who always pull a card on 20 on the last box). Would be complete wank with 2/3 tables.
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01-19-2010 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
This idea is so wacky and fun I might actually give some of my play to FT to try it out.

Is it a resource-hog at all? Somehow I would think that constantly changing tables like that would be a weird resource-hog especially on a site like FT.

i dont think the table itself changes. looked like the same table just players go and come.


check out the vid on you tube that somebody posted.

youtube "rush poker"
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01-19-2010 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
This idea is so wacky and fun I might actually give some of my play to FT to try it out.

Is it a resource-hog at all? Somehow I would think that constantly changing tables like that would be a weird resource-hog especially on a site like FT.
Not at all, it's running a lot smoother for me than my usual sessions where I'm running a HUD.
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01-19-2010 , 06:00 PM
Tried it for a few minutes today at the $10 NL stakes. It was kind of fun, but not something I'd play all of the time.

I give props to Full Tilt for implementing something different and interesting.
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01-19-2010 , 06:02 PM
The HUD workaround can be automated because your notes file is editable. Just put all the stats at the top of the notes, then hover the cursor over the player to see them.

It won't be strictly real-time but you can always sit out, quit FTP, run the updater, and log back in. There's no downside other than having to post the BB for the first hand.

I imagine the HUD providers will provide this service fairly soon.

Edit: the tracking software can also change the color for you, based on user-defined rules I imagine.
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01-19-2010 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by digit
It's possible this will wind up pissing regs off more than shortstacking did.
unpossible imo
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01-19-2010 , 06:03 PM
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Not at all, it's running a lot smoother for me than my usual sessions where I'm running a HUD.

that's the thing. Will it even be possible for a HUD to work with this? If not then you've probably got some better action just from it being a HUD-free game I'm guessing...but hard to say for sure and I haven't even tried it yet.
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01-19-2010 , 06:03 PM
There's now a second player pool at 0.05/0.10 fullring. It's possible to play 4 tables at one and at least 1 at the other. Played 5 tables for a few hands. Too many for me though.
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01-19-2010 , 06:07 PM
I was supposed to go shooting today and now the range is closed. Thanks ftp.

But in the seriousness, after 6 hours of lolrushaments if i didn't have either

a) rakeback
b) bonuses to clear

I wouldnt recommend playing rush. If they add plo then this will be my main game on ftp. Stars may just lose a customer, or specifically a large % of my play.
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01-19-2010 , 06:08 PM
this is so sick. like somebody else said, i'm having fun playing online poker for the 1st time in years! it's a sick rush.

btw, correct strategy is to overset somebody when you're both like 275 bbs deep ldo.
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01-19-2010 , 06:11 PM
So this is not recommended without rakeback, huh?
Figures.
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01-19-2010 , 06:14 PM
You can play 4 tables in each "lobby." I played 8 tables for an hour or two, then my eyes started bleeding

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btw, correct strategy is to overset somebody when you're both like 275 bbs deep ldo.
It probably wasn't you, but **** you anyway.

I also was put in the small blind 10 out of 15 times (2 of the 5 times where I wasn't the SB, I was the BB) at one of my "tables." I haven't checked my distribution yet in HEM. It was just unreal after I started counting it.
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01-19-2010 , 06:15 PM
played for like 3 hours. This would be extremely awesome on an iphone. lets bring it
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01-19-2010 , 06:15 PM
From a perspective of a casual player who plays mainly for fun (but still tries to be +EV), this is a genius invention. I find the regular NLHE games to be beyond dull, because they're filled with regs who pretty soon got a reliable set of numbers on you.

There is just no entertainment to be had playing those games, so I mainly stuck to HU because it goes quicker without having to multitable, and can play without a HUD. However, the problem with HU is that it's all about game selection, which is another dominating concept of online poker that I despise, and that I find to be very bad for the enjoyment.

So far rush poker is extremely fun. I would definitely play a lot more hands on FTP because of it. I really hope it's not as solvable as it looks on the surface, however. I also hope that no one comes up with a HUD that works in it, as HUDs are very bad for online poker.

Finally, I think that the pool system of seating players could be expanded beyond just rush poker. There is no reason why people just can't be seated from a pool into regular games, just like in B&M casinos (if you don't like your table, ask for a change). The current system of individually picking your table is too inefficient, and too shark-friendly.
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01-19-2010 , 06:17 PM
I realize that they don't allow you to observe other tables (obviously crucial). However, consider (purely hypothetical) a reasonably solid software engineer and a group of even 20 people colluding to play in the same "lobby"/game/whatever. The software compiles a list of the people at your current table and communicates to the others, making heavy use of timestamps. My head hurts from contemplating this, but it would seem like you could determine (at least in some cases) who had folded behind you. Granted, I could certainly be overlooking something.

Regardless, this hurts my brain. It will be truly interesting to see how this pans out index a few weeks.

Last edited by LetYouDown; 01-19-2010 at 06:23 PM.
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01-19-2010 , 06:18 PM
Good idea from FTP for getting creative with new game variants.

Also for stopping observed hands, hence HUDs.
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