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12-18-2012 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackChipRep
Yes, I believe the RNG is audited by an independant party. I will find out the details and post tomorrow.
Any Update on this?
12-18-2012 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kleinstein000
Any Update on this?
i can promise that when he has an update he will post this.
12-18-2012 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by oneonth3run
Also, why does the "Money in play: $xx.xx" statement at the top of each cash game window never match my balance at the table? It doesn't equal a sum of all my tables either, it just seems to be a random amount.
I think this takes into account all the money you've lost. So I'f you buy in for $50 and lose $15, then reload, money in play would be $65.
12-18-2012 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBadBabar
i can promise that when he has an update he will post this.
I would imagine that he has a lot going on and I am pretty sure that a friendly reminder every once in a while will not hurt anyone.

Thanks for your input though
12-18-2012 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jmurjeff
What can rakeback players get besides the base percentage that you get? Do you get points that you can use? Or is that only for those on the VIP program?
I think I got this one answered in my post a few above (you still get points but not any rewards except for Beast and cash purchases in the store which are at a less favorable conversion rate than VIP players have access to):

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=3951
12-18-2012 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBadBabar
i can promise that when he has an update he will post this.
He is unlikely to get an answer from Winning. I posted in both the True and ACR threads several months ago asking for details on the regulation and RNG and was dodged by both reps. Numerous emails and live chats were blindly ignored as well. They seem like they do not want to talk about it.
12-18-2012 , 08:15 PM
Isn't there a site that does statistical analysis of the RNGs across different poker networks? I remember ipoker failing one test but it wasn't conclusive.
12-18-2012 , 08:25 PM
Synchronized breaks have arrived. I'm not starting until 8 pm est so I haven't seen it in action but they are supposed to be done now. I'll update after I see that it's working correctly.

I'd love to hear an answer to the RNG analysis question myself, and let me get this straight; as far as we know WPN does not report to any known gaming commission and they are dodging answering the question about their RNG being certified (whatever it's called)? If this is correct then that is not good. I'm not saying I think they're sketchy in anyway but this is definitely not good.

EDIT: I have to say FTP was under a gaming commission and had their RNG audited and look how much good that did us.

Last edited by DiamondDixie; 12-18-2012 at 08:46 PM.
12-18-2012 , 08:27 PM
How the hell do we transfer funds, when the page is broken?


Im sure this wouldn't be an issue if BCP links from the client went to the right browser. FML.

Last edited by DJ_Chaps; 12-18-2012 at 08:33 PM.
12-18-2012 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ_Chaps
How the hell do we transfer funds, when the page is broken?


Im sure this wouldn't be an issue if BCP links from the client went to the right browser. FML.
Send an email to security and ask them to transfer $xxx.xx to username, real name xxxx xxxxx and they'll do it for you.
12-18-2012 , 09:30 PM
Don't know if it has been answered but does the rewards ever exceed the 35% rakeback after reacing a certain level?

If anyone could help me with this that has done the math it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You
12-18-2012 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 413AceKing
He is unlikely to get an answer from Winning. I posted in both the True and ACR threads several months ago asking for details on the regulation and RNG and was dodged by both reps. Numerous emails and live chats were blindly ignored as well. They seem like they do not want to talk about it.
The software/RNG has been independantly tested in the past. Most recently in late February this year for PokerKing. You can view the certificate here.
12-18-2012 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ShaunMcE
Don't know if it has been answered but does the rewards ever exceed the 35% rakeback after reacing a certain level?

If anyone could help me with this that has done the math it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You
Hi, if you are consistently raking over $3K/month you are better off on the Elite Benefits program than 35% rakeback. If you are consistently raking over $700/month, you are better off on Elite Benefits than 27% rakeback. The Elite Benefits Program is basically a carbon copy of the Poker Stars VIP Club, which you may already be familiar with.
12-18-2012 , 10:10 PM
Thank You !

Also could you please explain why Bonus money is negated from rakeback ... what would be the point of getting the bonus if you are not going to receive the value from it anyway?
12-18-2012 , 10:13 PM
Are HU hypers gone?

zero
12-18-2012 , 11:30 PM
where do I go to verify my account? I cannot find the form for the "kyc"? form. Also, can I set up the debit card without a real money balance by using the $25 money back promo for the debit card?
12-19-2012 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by grumpygramp69
where do I go to verify my account? I cannot find the form for the "kyc"? form. Also, can I set up the debit card without a real money balance by using the $25 money back promo for the debit card?
The KYC form is in the cashier under the withdrawal options, there is a link under that option. I don't think you can get without $25 in your account I'm pretty sure I read where they reimburse you on your first withdrawal.

Sync'd breaks are working great!!! So nice to get to go to the bathroom for a change.
12-19-2012 , 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ClubKid
I think I got this one answered in my post a few above (you still get points but not any rewards except for Beast and cash purchases in the store which are at a less favorable conversion rate than VIP players have access to):

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=3951
Thank you for the info.

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Originally Posted by ShaunMcE
Thank You !

Also could you please explain why Bonus money is negated from rakeback ... what would be the point of getting the bonus if you are not going to receive the value from it anyway?

Edit:

The bonus is still worth it. If you had a $300 bonus. If you cleared it would take 16500 points or 3k in rake. The points would be worth $247.50 taking that out from the $3k would give you 2752.50. On regular 27% rakeback no bonus you would get $743.18 where as with the bonus you would get $962.18 so the bonus adds about 7% to your rakeback.

Last edited by jmurjeff; 12-19-2012 at 02:08 AM.
12-19-2012 , 02:29 AM
Yea, the bonus money is not taken directly off the rakeback, its subtracted from the amount you rake when calculating rakeback, so you still get some benefit.

Is there an auto timebank setting somewhere for this new feature?

If not will there be?
12-19-2012 , 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by oneonth3run
Also, why does the "Money in play: $xx.xx" statement at the top of each cash game window never match my balance at the table? It doesn't equal a sum of all my tables either, it just seems to be a random amount.
there's a refresh button next to the amounts shown on main page , just click it and it will update it
12-19-2012 , 05:00 AM
If I have 23000 player points how much does that mean i raked ?
12-19-2012 , 06:41 AM
Not having the time bank automatically go up for the Fast PLO tables is atrocious. YOU NEED MORE TIME IN PLO THAN NL. What is it like 8 seconds and than with like 2 seconds left they give you the option for more time. Change the original time to like 12 seconds and have the time bank option available from the start or just have it go automatically. The tables are unplayable the way they are and make it impossible to multi table.
12-19-2012 , 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ugotpwned
Not having the time bank automatically go up for the Fast PLO tables is atrocious. YOU NEED MORE TIME IN PLO THAN NL. What is it like 8 seconds and than with like 2 seconds left they give you the option for more time. Change the original time to like 12 seconds and have the time bank option available from the start or just have it go automatically. The tables are unplayable the way they are and make it impossible to multi table.
Yeah this is not good. I got installed tonight and funded, and tried plo the first thing. I know i need to get used to the software, but still it was pretty rushed once the action came to me. Not really the way the game should be played.

Anyway i didnt want to fuss, nice seeing new players. Now if i could just sit back as far in my chair as im used to and still see the cards w/o going full screen, im great.
12-19-2012 , 08:21 AM
I think adding NLO8 tables could be a mistake with the current player pool. There is hardly ANY action whatsoever in PLO8. Once traffic picks up, it would be a good thing, but the majority of the time there is one or zero plo8 games running and if some choose nlo8 over plo8 it could stop all the action. Ive sat at a 50, 100, 200 and 400 table by myself for 5 hours without anyone sitting with me. Lets get PLO8 traffic before we beg for NLO8 tables.
12-19-2012 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by grenzen
Yeah this is not good. I got installed tonight and funded, and tried plo the first thing. I know i need to get used to the software, but still it was pretty rushed once the action came to me. Not really the way the game should be played.

Anyway i didnt want to fuss, nice seeing new players. Now if i could just sit back as far in my chair as im used to and still see the cards w/o going full screen, im great.
THIS! +1

I am sometimes misreading clubs and spades thinking that I am suited and when I am actually not. This was when I was playing two tables on my 24" monitor. Cards need to be a little bit more clear otherwise multi-tabling is going to be a challenge.
Also not playing that much volume or any tournaments for that matter til HEM2 is working with WPN network. Hopefully this will be done before OSS?

      
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