Since Jan 2 (didn't play Jan 1):
All 1/2 NL, 6-max:
49,149 hands
25,313 vpp
So that's .515 per hand.

only 26k here

I am at 26k VPP's, also.

I am, however, going through a murderous stretch at 200NL, so I stepped down to 100NL today for the first time ever. I killed the games for 4 hours, but the points are nowhere near what I would have at 200NL. I am going to spend a little time at 100NL to re-tool my game and get back my confidence, so I will probably have a disappointing January. I was aiming for 85k VPP's, but now I will probably end up with 75k. It's better than getting my but kicked every day at 200NL

PCA is down to 40 players as of tonight. 2 Supernova Elites remain of the 21 that played.

Scotty

Scotty, is Kris Kuykendall's wrestling championship from Ohio? If so, can you tell him I remember watching his state final match.

(If it's an entirely different wrestling champion named Kris Kuykendall, I'll be very surprised.)

Pokerstars must just laugh when they read a thread like this. They are going to be making 200k in rake off of individuals who normally would have paid 20-40k in rake just to try and "win" 30k worth of stuff. Kudos, P'stars, you got them hook, line, and sinker.

I am still considering this...

I don't want to do the commitment but god the incentives are so nice. I most likely won't because I am more worried about improving my game this year, but still GG stars on this idea.

They should laugh themselves silly that the other sites ignored the approaches of high volume players or messed their offers up so badly.

truthspeaks - you get significantly more than $30k worth of stuff for making it to Supernova Elite. DUCY?

High volume players?

We don't need no stinking high volume players!

There's this other thing that some of us will happen to do over the course of paying that 200k in rake called "winning". Combine that with the ~100k that Stars will be giving back to your average SNE, and then you may understand why there are some of us who set this as a goal

Stars definitely knows how to treat its high-volume customers, which is not something that every prominent online room can claim. Anybody remember the old Party VIP program? You never knew if you'd get an offer month to month, nobody really knew the requirements to be a VIP, and the offers would be something random that never seemed to actually coordinate with your personal volume.

Pokerstars has earned me as a customer for life with the way they've treated me.

Now if they could only do something to get all the low-volume donkeys to get on Stars and give all the SNE bloodsucking pros their money so some of the donkey SNE questers could have a chance too!

1 million VPPs (3.5 million FPPs) = $52,500 (and possibly more if you do something with them other than buy the bonuses)

Milestone Bonuses = $23,500

Tournament Packages = $32,500

Multiplier Increase (for the next year) = $11,250

Being able to do basic math math = priceless

Yup.

I think sites like Full Tilt are just now realizing how they are missing out. That's why we're seeing the new iron man "end of the year" bonuses and the such.

Absolute Poker tried to copy Stars VIP program (almost identically) but haven't added the additional rewards for high volume play. But with their scandals and bad bad jackpot tables I don't think that it would end up working there if they did.

Last night, the 200+ games were SIGNIFICANTLY rougher. Not nitty rough either - lots and lots of seasoned pros swamping the tables.

I cut myself off an hour early.

I think this will probably get better as the year goes on - when people get their tax returns, more drop out of the SNE race, etc.


In other news i'm at 32k vpps

What, you mean 30 or so people paying $200K in rake playing ABC robot mid stakes limit and NL isn't profitable? Naaaah. Sorry, couldn't resist. I have almost 3K VIP this year and that was a lot of hands for me. You guys have my respect for the dedication.

Wow best of luck to you. I'd be terrified of burnout and bad play. In December I took the last two weeks off work and played probably 4x my normal volume of poker to see just how high volume I could really go (I primarily play 10/20+ LHE). Made something like 110k VPP's for the month so yeah if I did that every month I'd be SNE no problem.

The problem that came up is in the last week of the month I ran into a very nasty downswing but tried to keep charging forward and play through it instead of taking much needed breaks. This was probably the worst thing I ever could have done since I ended up taking what should have been a 200-300BB downswing into a downward spiral 700BB downswing.

Since then I've recovered from it and I'm not playing nearly as high volume, but that made me never ever ever want to persue SNE since the same thing will happen again. Feeling the need to make my 20k VPP's a week even though I feel horrible and was literally having nightmares about poker, and end up making poor decisions without really being aware of it.

I applaud you guys for taking on this challenge but man, be careful!

For some players, like me, the VIP goals were entirely unrealistic and didn't pay nearly as much as what I'm making on the Stars program right now.
I believe one of the Party goals they gave me required killing myself 60 hours a week for 8 weeks and the award would be 12% or something.
Then there were other guys who were getting VIP incentives that were 100-200% or even higher. It was really freaking weird that they would do it like that.

And then there are the times that perhaps your 'personal VIP' rep gets fired or something and Party does not abide by the verbal deal that was made with you. This is what happened to me. I was told that if I completed 75% of the total points set in my goal then I would get 75% of the total prize. But then Party changed their minds and decided not to pay me.
I wasn't trying to swindle them or anything but I sure ended up feeling swindled. This was a part of the deal. I said something like, "What if I only get 20k points? Do I still get anything?" "Well, then that's only 75% of the points so you'll get 75% of the money which is ....."


So yeah....Stars doing this the way they are doing it and clearly outlining exactly how much you will make for X number of points so there is no vagueness or weirdness at all about it is REALLY refreshing especially after Party changed their mind on the VIP bonus that they later decided they didn't want to give me.

I really tried to play on Party but when their bonuses were THAT bad and when I didn't even get paid what I was owed the one time...well...that kind of spelled the end of my interest in playing there.

anyone has a valid reason why some people get 0.5+ vpp/h and others 0.4 vpp/h ?

Game selection and personal playing style

yes, and they've been mentioned before.

- table selection
- time of day
- style of play
- some people siting 6-max numbers while others are referring to full-ring


regarding style of play: Someone who is 20/15 on full-ring is almost certainly going to get more points per hand than someone who is 11/4.

I've just recently change my style and i've been getting .85 per hand at 200nl FR through 10k hands.


I'm playing an 85/0 game

lolol

Yes a whole 39 people got this!!!

What about the hundreds/thousands of players who fell short while making an attempt ?

The difference between getting 999,999 vpps and 1,000,000 is about 30k plus the implied value of the multiplier for next year. Saying SNE is worth 120k is ******ed, DUCY?

Not to mention how people completely overextend themselves and win at a much lower rate, have bad/no game selection or even lose money while playing for this.

Do you think pstars is doing this out of the goodness of their heart? I would bet my life that this promo makes them even MORE money.

It's just funny to see how easily people are manipulated. The daily update was a nice touch too, Scotty

You should change your name to TheMoronSpeaks