But isnt it strange that they follow with they decision becouse of player 1 place under me wrote that he dont like my behavior? NOT ANYONE FROM PLAYERS IN MY TABLE

He obviously wants to win the leaderboard of course. But you are still clearly missing the point. It didn't matter who it was, especially after you had been warned.

I can see both sides of the argument here for sure, seems a little harsh on PS side of things.

How do you know others did not complain? Not everyone wants to reveal that they complain to people. I am not saying what Stars did was right but seriously it pisses me off when people take forever. Especially when they don't have a decision at all.

^This

50 times before? 10 is way too much after that and annoying all those people came back to bite you. I hope you lose, you don't deserve the package by refusing to risk actually playing poker.

If you were timbanking this often, you cant be surprised about the PS action. Nobody likes this
+1 for pokerstars once again

If you live by the sword you die by the sword.

You want to abuse the rules of the game for your own personal advantage. The guy below you wants to use your manipulation of the rules for his own personal advantage. Personally , i'd have just removed your right to ever having a time bank again. And if you then continued to timeout , have the client auto shove x hands folowing each timeout. With x increasing as you continued to timeout.

Did you really think we were going to side with you OP? You abuse the rules and actually expect people to sympathize with you? lol

i don't know why you posted this expecting some sympathy for a strategy that nobody appreciates.

Man - youre to fishy to win anything fair. Soft allows chipdumping, soft allows to calling ppl names in chat and what? U think this is ok, cause soft allows that? Youre fish - deal with it.

If they don't want people to stall, they should just make them fast tables. How much time do you have before the time bank starts? 20 seconds? Make it 5 or 10 seconds and people will just use the time bank when they really need to make a decision.

I've personally used this advantage when I was really short stack and didn't have enough fold equity to make a play. It's hard for me to understand why it would deserve a ban.

People act as if poker is an unselfish game... May I remind everyone that the goal is to take money from your opponent?
I agree that it can be an unpleasant experience for some of the one-tabling player. Then Stars should change the time allowed before the time bank hits.

Really, they have to start to warn and ban alot of players then, cant remember playing a single MTT without atleast one guy on my table stalling every hand close to the bubble.

I agree that it is so annoying and they defenitely should do something about it but they should change the rules first and put something in the software that if someone is doing this like 3 times in a very short time they can get a penalty like sit out for an orbit.

Seems clear that he did it before and got punished, so they are keeping him on a tighter leash. Since he admits again that its part of strategy at certain points of a tournament he clearly doesn't get it.

Hmm, as irritating as stalling is, I'm actually provisionally on OP's side here (pending further information, obviously)

Rightly or wrongly, the software allows the user to do this. It's not what it was originally designed for, but then a lot of people do things that were not originally intended, like late regging unlimited rebuy tourneys at the last minute and playing them like a 1r1a.

If doing what OP appears to have done is not acceptable then Stars should modify the client to make it more unpalatable to use it in this way; one idea might be to introduce a countdown of maximum allowed number of timeouts per tourney, with an automatic penalty of 1 orbit compulsory sitout for further timeouts.

Stars' Tournament Policies describe the timebanks, but don't mention anything about any restrictions on how a player can use them. If this is not expressly prohibited then I don't think it's acceptable for Stars to create arbitrary rules and then apply them retrospectively. Nor selectively, as I am quietly confident that OP isn't the only one who has stalled during MicroMillions. If this is a new policy then are Stars also banning people who've done the same but happen to have missed the cash? Or is OP the only one? He's probably only come to their attention because he's near the top of the leaderboard, and someone else is angleshooting this complaint in an attempt to further their own prospects in this leaderboard competition. Is such an angleshoot any more acceptable than OP's angleshooting of the timebank?

Obviously the full facts surrounding the matter are not in the public domain, at least at the moment, and so I have made one or two assumptions, but I feel that transparency and consistency by the site is much more important than any one player and I can't help but suspect that if this had been a year or two ago, and happening on FTP, or the ultra-shady old Cereus network, the hounds would be out in force and baying for the site's blood.

+1
Oftentimes half the table does this. Why suddenly start to punish ONE!!!! player who is close to the top of a leaderboard?
Tha does not seem fair.

Also he said he did it 40-50 times and got warned. Wher eis the limit after warned? 10 it seems at the moment?
Stars should make the rules more clear, and perhaps make the client detect those who abuse and ban everyone.
It does not seem fair to just ban one guy who happened to get more attention due to being on the leaderboard. Anyone not on the leaderboard would have gotten away with it...

According to OP:

I doubt that this is how it was phrased; it would be helpful if OP provides all relevant emails. Maybe he was told that he can do it only if he has a decision to make but not when someone pushes for 15BB and he has 32o?

Yeah, I forgot to mention this. Definitely provide all the emails (sent both ways) if you want to further your case; you can block out your email address for privacy, but leave everything else in

Op is absolutely correct here I believe.

Willing to be proven wrong if emails show otherwise. But right now as stated he is correct and stars is in the wrong. Your own personal feelings on stallers really shouldn't be a factor here. Stars is coming down more harshly than appropriate at a key time in their contest and in a way that is not typical. All after op DID attempt to abide by their request to cease.

Some tournaments you have almost an entire table strategically stalling, for the max clock, for 5+ hands. So every player on the table should be banned? Maybe Stars should redesign the clock rules better and not expect them to know when the clock that is sitting right there because stars put it there is actually not allowed to be touched or used all the way. Don't want the player using it all the way? Give him less freaking time ldo. Don't give him time he's not actually allowed to use. That's unfair to the player who has no way of knowing.

I have seen no warnings of this on stars tournament policies, no warning in the actual tournament when you register and no warning even in the tournament info tab.
So basically, stars can do what they want. And banning someone from accessing there OWN money is the same as full tilt has done.
Stopping people from accessing their own money is a crime in itself.
Another case of online poker moving the goal posts and policing its own rules (which they make up whenever it suits them).
Stuff likes this sickens me.

A ban does not seem fair given other players get away with it and the penalty is a reaction to a player complaint versus stars keeping on top of their own rules. I would be interested in seeing which rule this breaks but more importantly think they have to deal with this with technology by gradually reducing the amount of time people have to use as they continue to max out their available time.

Sorry, but i HATE people who stall tournaments! And i wish other sites would ban players too, CANT STAND IT!!

The intention of a time bank is for difficult decisions and if there is an internet lag.

You got a warning. You kept doing it and got in trouble. Unfortunately thats life.

First off a lot of hypocrites in this thread. Claiming fish find it annoying that he stalls... they'd also find it annoying that you use a HUD, and also find it annoying when they lose. It's in the rules - Deal with it.

I can't understand how Pstars can change the rules arbitrarily half way through a contest like this. They put the rules in how points are allocated, and they were different then other some of their other Series and because OP is using an optimal strategy they think they can close his account???

Anyone recall those to Germans who angle shooted the the 70 billionth hand by playing HU and folding auto folding to each other... they got the prize.

BTW this timebanking till the very end strategy was done at a Pstars Live Event on the APPT Tour a few years back by a player who was chip leader with 2 tables left and wanted the other table to play more hands (they weren't in hand for hand yet) and he took the clock for a full minute every hand and nothing was done about it despite both tables complaining.

I don't want to take sides in this case, I want to point out a few in my opinion crucial points here:

1) you got a warning, you should have reacted to that accordingly, that's why e-mail history is needed to be shown so that we can assess it. It's their site and their rules, if they claimed you're breaking the rules you should have defended yourself according to the TOS

2) so real factor deciding here here imo is if there's something in the TOS about fairplay towards other players, if there's some loosely defined rule then again, it's their right to interpret it how they want. I can't check it myself right now since I'm playing but will do later out of curiosity. Why you seem to be the first that got punished? I don't know and I don't want to judge that, although it indeed feels meh.