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05-06-2011 , 11:16 AM

#26

Headstains

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 163

okay.. well that was the first thing I said in my post... so apparently I did understand it... I was just wondering if it meant something different then what I assumed...

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05-06-2011 , 11:17 AM

#27

MrPaddington

journeyman

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 229

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Originally Posted by Headstains

What exactly does that mean? that there is a 65% chance we get our money back... cause US players money on full tilt is either going to be worth 1.00 on the 1.00... or 0.00 on the 1.00... We are either going to get it or we won't. Since this has happened.. I haven't understood the "US players money is currently worth "x.xx on the 1.00" Since we can't transfer or anything it is either worth all of it or nothing..

This. US players either get the money, or they don't. It's 50/50

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05-06-2011 , 11:26 AM

#28

thepizzlefosho

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 6,206

every hand in poker is 50/50. you either win or you don't. What's so hard to understand about this? jesus I'd expect a bunch of poker players to understand the maths better.

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05-06-2011 , 11:30 AM

#29

Headstains

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 163

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Originally Posted by SretiCentV

You are the freakin' MAN!!

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05-06-2011 , 11:31 AM

#30

SretiCentV

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,693

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Originally Posted by Headstains

You are the freakin' MAN!!

damn I deleted it cause it was too harsh now you're being a bitch lol

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05-06-2011 , 11:34 AM

#31

TNixon

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,720

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Originally Posted by CobiG13

google 'expected value'

And then quit poker forever.

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05-06-2011 , 11:34 AM

#32

demon102

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 16,259

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Originally Posted by _neff_

i have some insight on this....

Tony G is a ******ed attention whore

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05-06-2011 , 11:36 AM

#33

Headstains

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 163

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Originally Posted by SretiCentV

damn I deleted it cause it was too harsh now you're being a bitch lol

ehh.. I liked it.. fairly clever

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05-06-2011 , 11:55 AM

#34

n0nplussed

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,488

Seriously, why do we care what Tony G, the biggest douche in poker (seriously, PH doesn't hold a candle to this guy), has to say about anything?

Seriously, watch this ridiculousness.

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05-06-2011 , 03:40 PM

#35

snowboard789

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,734

i bet that tonyg is buying a lot of ftp dollars for a price of .60 right now...

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05-06-2011 , 04:00 PM

#36

Do it Right

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,890

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Originally Posted by Biffo

If Tony G is your idea of a stand up guy then I can only assume that you don't have too much experience of stand up guys.

Tony G is a shrewd business man who knows exactly what to say to further his own position.

To ask Lederer, Ivey and Ferguson to pony up the money is laughable. It's about as laughable as asking Enron shareholders to pay for the shortfall created by the managers.

Lederer, Ivey and Ferguson may or may not have some say in the running of FTP but let's not get carried away here. If you adopt this position then the owners of every company now have a liability to cover the problems created by the managers.

So...think of Tyco, Union Carbide in Bopal, BP in the Gulf and the list goes on.

Be concerned for sure but be sensible.

Enron isn't even comparable here. The investors bought into the business there. In this case players placed money on the site in good and reasonable faith that it was being safely segregated from all operational expenses. At no point did FTP 'own' the money nor at any point was our money a part of the business operations of FTP.

If our money is not returned Lederer, Ivey, Ferguson, etc will be held accountable and it will be absolutely justified.

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05-06-2011 , 04:01 PM

#37

snakey73

newbie

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 17

Did someone say Tony G gets commission checks from Full Tilt every month??? What's the connection between FullTilt and Party Poker, or isn't there one at this time?

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05-06-2011 , 04:12 PM

#38

ak7062

adept

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 925

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Originally Posted by snakey73

Did someone say Tony G gets commission checks from Full Tilt every month??? What's the connection between FullTilt and Party Poker, or isn't there one at this time?

IIRC, the affiliation with Full Tilt is from PokerNews, not Party.

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05-06-2011 , 09:46 PM

#39

Fed Exed

enthusiast

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 57

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Originally Posted by Biffo

If Tony G is your idea of a stand up guy then I can only assume that you don't have too much experience of stand up guys.

Right now he is a (loud) voice for the voice-less(Me!) He is spreading our thoughts and frustrations. I dont know of ANYONE who is doing this for me. Yes my hero! Even though

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Originally Posted by Biffo

Tony G is a shrewd business man who knows exactly what to say to further his own position.

Full tilt pays Tony G large commissions regularly. Yet he attacks there current actions and behavior. If he is single still spinning this to his advantage then So be it. I'm more concerned with the effect then the cause.

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Originally Posted by Biffo

To ask Lederer, Ivey and Ferguson to pony up the money is laughable. It's about as laughable as asking Enron shareholders to pay for the shortfall created by the managers.

If you adopt this position then the owners of every company now have a liability to cover the problems created by managers.

Yet this is exactly what tony 6 did when a company he was sponsored by went under for shady business practices! Used his own funds to return %50 of lost player funds . (STAND UP GUY) !

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05-06-2011 , 10:46 PM

#40

CaptainRunGood

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 206

Actions speak louder than words. He might be a douche at the poker table, but I'm glad to hear that he's trying to get in touch with FTP and help the online community out. I can't say the same for 99% of the other pros.

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05-06-2011 , 10:50 PM

#41

Jeff W

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 9,557

Since this is the rumours thread...

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Originally Posted by http://twitter.com/#!/badams78

badams78 Brandon Adams
FTP in many cases legitimately didn't know what their processors were up to. Stars management and Stars processors almost one and the same
7 hours ago

badams78 Brandon Adams
Worth reiterating that Stars is in way worse shape than Tilt with the DOJ b/c they were much closer to the payment processors
7 hours ago

Of course, I don't think people care what kind of shape Stars is because they're getting paid.

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