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06-25-2010 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
Because you are a complete idiot.

Better?

I don't agree with you, but, yes, that would have been acceptable language to use.

You're an intelligent adult, you don't need to lower yourself to using offensive, base-level, vile, 'playground' insults.
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06-25-2010 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by FatedToPretend
As explained earlier today, a 'rigtard' is someone who believes online poker is rigged. I don't believe that.
You're deluding yourself.

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The number of genuine investigations would outweigh any faked ones anyway.
This from someone who has yet to find one investigation.
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06-25-2010 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
You're deluding yourself.



This from someone who has yet to find one investigation.


Sorry, have i misunderstood you ?

Did you say they would employ people to fake investigations or they wouldn't ?
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06-25-2010 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
The reason to swear at you is because you are pretending to be a complete ****** and wasting everyone's time.
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Originally Posted by FatedToPretend

I'm not pretending to be anything
lol
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06-25-2010 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FatedToPretend
Sorry, have i misunderstood you ?

Did you say they would employ people to fake investigations or they wouldn't ?
Look, Einstein, as you haven't found a single investigation it's reasonable to suppose that the sites are not employing people to rig investigations - yes?

But if they were, since you have found, otherwise, no investigations, then it's ******ed to assume that the rigged investigations would be outweighed by the genuine ones - of which you have found precisely none.
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06-25-2010 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by KingOfFelt
lol

Ouch, walked into that lol.
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06-25-2010 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
Look, Einstein, as you haven't found a single investigation it's reasonable to suppose that the sites are not employing people to rig investigations - yes?

But if they were, since you have found, otherwise, no investigations, then it's ******ed to assume that the rigged investigations would be outweighed by the genuine ones - of which you have found precisely none.


Wiki, can I ask where you're from that you think this is an acceptable term to use ?

Presumably not the 1970s ?
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06-25-2010 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FatedToPretend
Wiki, can I ask where you're from that you think this is an acceptable term to use ?

Presumably not the 1970s ?
It's a term that's been used on this forum since well before I came here.

Unlike yourself I just fit in with the culture I find.

The term is getting used a lot at the moment because you are actually a great deal more moronic than the average rigtard.
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06-25-2010 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FatedToPretend

Now, I am not and haven't tried to convince anyone that online poker is rigged. I have no idea if online poker is fair or not. I believe it probably is fair...


I am approaching this from a neutral point of view...


I have come on to this forum and thread with a neutral view, to try and get to the bottom of what is clearly a serious debate.
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AS A COMPLETE NEUTRAL

Could I please point you towards these comments again because you continue to claim you are "neutral" with no explanation as to what has changed your mind:


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The website I play on appears to deal a ridiculous number of pocket pairs. ...

I reckon hands are appearing far more frequently than they should be and wondered if anyone has any ideas about how I could investigate this.


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I'm really unconvinced by iPoker.

The percentage of times each hand wins seems to be completely incorrect.

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It's when I play single table Sit and Goes that I really start to question the dealing....

In that time, you get absolutely showered with A, Ks and A, Qs and big pairs, hands which create action. It just doesn't seem like you get dealt these hands the correct amount of times at all.

By my calculations, you should get dealt each particular pair, one hand out of every 221 and a hand like A, K for example, less than one time in every 80 hands.

iPoker would appear to be way off with these figures.
The part I have bolded is particularly interesting. You have carried out calculations that show IPoker is "way off" but are completely neutral about its fairness




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As someone with a maths degree...
Please don't say this ever again. You embarrass yourself, me, our education system, ...
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06-25-2010 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
It's a term that's been used on this forum since well before I came here.

Unlike yourself I just fit in with the culture I find.

The term is getting used a lot at the moment because you are actually a great deal more moronic than the average rigtard.

Again, it all seems very childish.

'Everyone else talks like that, so I better do it as well, to impress people.'

Continuing to use offensive words, because you know they provoke a reaction.

I'm British, certainly in our culture, (and I thought universally), the term '******' is considered offensive and outdated.

I'd appreciate if as an adult, you could respect that and refrain from using it in future.

I've reported it to the moderators, so we'll let them decide, but I'm explaining to you that in some countries it IS offensive, so I'd hope you could respect that.
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06-25-2010 , 02:16 PM
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Please don't say this ever again. You embarrass yourself, me, our education system, ...
Sadly, I think he's from the UK.

Although how he ever got a maths O-Level, let alone a degree, is beyond me.
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06-25-2010 , 02:19 PM
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Again, it all seems very childish.

'Everyone else talks like that, so I better do it as well, to impress people.'
I'm not doing it to impress anyone.

I'm doing it because you continue to act in a ******ed manner.

It simply means that your mental development was ******ed at some point when compared to that of normal people.

I'm not sure why you're getting your knickers in a twist about it.

It's clearly apposite.
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06-25-2010 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bingo_Boy
Could I please point you towards these comments again because you continue to claim you are "neutral" with no explanation as to what has changed your mind:











The part I have bolded is particularly interesting. You have carried out calculations that show IPoker is "way off" but are completely neutral about its fairness






Please don't say this ever again. You embarrass yourself, me, our education system, ...

I guess those comments were made in anger at the time and certainly the points people have made on here have made me lean to believe that online poker is fair, although for the purposes of this investigation, I am trying to approach it with an open mind and a neutral viewpoint.

I'm not sure how you feel I embarrass myself, you, or the education system ?
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06-25-2010 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
I'm not doing it to impress anyone.

I'm doing it because you continue to act in a ******ed manner.

It simply means that your mental development was ******ed at some point when compared to that of normal people.

I'm not sure why you're getting your knickers in a twist about it.

It's clearly apposite.


It isn't a word that is acceptable in modern society.

Most people would not need to be told that, but when someone does tell you that, I'd hope you'd be big enough to accept that.

I hope and presume, as you're an adult living in 2010, you wouldn't come on here making racist, sectarian, sexist or homophobic comments against other people. The comments you have made are equally as offensive, vile and inappropriate, so please, rather than continuing along those lines in order to try and mock or belittle me, or wind me up, be big enough to stop using language which may deeply offend people.
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06-25-2010 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FatedToPretend
I'm British, certainly in our culture, (and I thought universally), the term '******' is considered offensive and outdated.
Only when used towards genuine mentally handicapped persons, then it's offensive. When used against stubborn ignorance and stupidity, I think it's a great word and I can't think of another that could adequately replace it. "******" and the derivation "rigtard" just work so well. It sounds right, writes right, and just captures the essence better than any other word.

For any truly mentally handicapped readers of this thread, get over it, nobody's referring to you.

I don't think anyone who uses the word here would ever say it about, or in the presence of, a Down's syndrome sufferer.

But for the way it does get used around here, "******" is the shizzat of a word.
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06-25-2010 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FatedToPretend
It isn't a word that is acceptable in modern society.

Most people would not need to be told that, but when someone does tell you that, I'd hope you'd be big enough to accept that.
It's just that I don't actually see you as in any way an arbiter of acceptable English usage on this forum or this thread.

I just see you as someone whose intellectual development was, unfortunately, ******ed, at some point.
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06-25-2010 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by spadebidder
Only when used towards genuine mentally handicapped persons, then it's offensive. When used against stubborn ignorance and stupidity, I think it's a great word and I can't think of another that could adequately replace it. "******" and the derivation "rigtard" just work so well. It sounds right, writes right, and just captures the essence better than any other word.

For any truly mentally handicapped readers of this thread, get over it, nobody's referring to you.
Quite.

Obviously I wouldn't use the word to refer to people with learning difficulties.

I expect everyone else to have the intelligence to understand.

Sadly, Fated doesn't.

Oh, ... wait ...
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06-25-2010 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by spadebidder
Only when used towards genuine mentally handicapped persons, then it's offensive. When used against stubborn ignorance and stupidity, I think it's a great word and I can't think of another that could adequately replace it. "******" and the derivation "rigtard" just work so well. It sounds right, writes right, and just captures the essence better than any other word.

For any truly mentally handicapped readers of this thread, get over it, nobody's referring to you.

WHAT ??

This gets better and better. I can't believe I'm having to explain this to what appeared to be intelligent adults.

I believe it was about 2001, there was a comedy programme made called 'The Office.' I presume most of you have seen it.

Now, the main character, David Brent, is a cringeworthy boss, who is so politically-incorrect and awkward.

There's an episode where he makes a joke about black people, believing that only black people could be offended by racism towards them. The programme is clearly mocking this belief and showing up how wrong and stupid this is.

Now, nearly ten years on and some of you are still sat there thinking, 'it's ok to use derogatory, offensive terms, as long as the people the derogatory terms are about don't hear them.' WHAT ?? I genuinely can't believe I'm having to explain this.

A term is offensive and derogatory, whether you say it to that person, or jokingly, or not. You wouldn't, (I hope), call me a n****r or a p**f or any such term, as they are outdated and offensive. I am neither black nor gay, but it would still be unacceptable language to use.

I really am sat here gobsmacked to be having this discussion with adults as it seems the sort of thing you'd have to explain to 10 year olds.

I also hope there's been some sort of cultural misunderstanding, but some of you appear to be British as well, which makes it all the more worrying.
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06-25-2010 , 02:41 PM
Your argument is ******ed.
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06-25-2010 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FatedToPretend
WHAT ??

This gets better and better. I can't believe I'm having to explain this to what appeared to be intelligent adults.

I believe it was about 2001, there was a comedy programme made called 'The Office.' I presume most of you have seen it.

Now, the main character, David Brent, is a cringeworthy boss, who is so politically-incorrect and awkward.

There's an episode where he makes a joke about black people, believing that only black people could be offended by racism towards them. The programme is clearly mocking this belief and showing up how wrong and stupid this is.

Now, nearly ten years on and some of you are still sat there thinking, 'it's ok to use derogatory, offensive terms, as long as the people the derogatory terms are about don't hear them.' WHAT ?? I genuinely can't believe I'm having to explain this.

A term is offensive and derogatory, whether you say it to that person, or jokingly, or not. You wouldn't, (I hope), call me a n****r or a p**f or any such term, as they are outdated and offensive. I am neither black nor gay, but it would still be unacceptable language to use.

I really am sat here gobsmacked to be having this discussion with adults as it seems the sort of thing you'd have to explain to 10 year olds.

I also hope there's been some sort of cultural misunderstanding, but some of you appear to be British as well, which makes it all the more worrying.
tl;dr.

Did you wake up one morning and find that you had added to your delusions by now believing you are a mod?

Get over yourself.
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06-25-2010 , 02:42 PM
Nothing changes here...

Rigtard posts unsubtantiated claims or hypothesis and The Shilltards move in like hungry sharks to drink blood for pure amusement because they don't have anything better to do with their lives.

This thread has become a spot for pure comedy, no other value.

Thanks for the laughs though.
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06-25-2010 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by spadebidder
Your argument is ******ed.
But roughly what one would expect from a ******.
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06-25-2010 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by spadebidder
Only when used towards genuine mentally handicapped persons, then it's offensive. When used against stubborn ignorance and stupidity, I think it's a great word and I can't think of another that could adequately replace it. "******" and the derivation "rigtard" just work so well. It sounds right, writes right, and just captures the essence better than any other word.

For any truly mentally handicapped readers of this thread, get over it, nobody's referring to you.

I don't think anyone who uses the word here would ever say it about, or in the presence of, a Down's syndrome sufferer.

But for the way it does get used around here, "******" is the shizzat of a word.
So I guess it's ok to call someone a *****,or a paki etc.etc. as long as they don't happen to be of that ethnicity. My wife teaches autistic kids,and the number of people who go out of their way to rationalise use of that word is astounding. Kind of like the I have a black friend classic. I'm sorry I came back lurking today. Bad enough to hear that garbage from wiki/qpw, but that's a given,guess I just had a bad read on you..damn, I hate people sometimes
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06-25-2010 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FatedToPretend
There's an episode where he makes a joke about black people, believing that only black people could be offended by racism towards them. The programme is clearly mocking this belief and showing up how wrong and stupid this is.

Now, nearly ten years on and some of you are still sat there thinking, 'it's ok to use derogatory, offensive terms, as long as the people the derogatory terms are about don't hear them.' WHAT ?? I genuinely can't believe I'm having to explain this.
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So I guess it's ok to call someone a *****,or a paki etc.etc. as long as they don't happen to be of that ethnicity. My wife teaches autistic kids,and the number of people who go out of their way to rationalise use of that word is astounding. Kind of like the I have a black friend classic. I'm sorry I came back lurking today. Bad enough to hear that garbage from wiki/qpw, but that's a given,guess I just had a bad read on you..damn, I hate people sometimes

I can't believe I have to explain this to you both. "Black people" always refers to black people. They are the target of the offensive joke. I personally cringe if I'm in the presence of someone who is so socially oafish to make such a joke, even if no one else is present. "******ed" however, is a word, that has sometimes been used to disparage a group of people, offensively. That does not make the word equal that group of people. It isn't.

Making jokes about black people is ******ed.

People who want to remove perfectly good words from the English language because some idiots caused the word to be associated with some offensive usage different from the word's real meaning, is ******ed.
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06-25-2010 , 03:24 PM
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So I guess it's ok to call someone a *****,or a paki etc.etc. as long as they don't happen to be of that ethnicity. My wife teaches autistic kids,and the number of people who go out of their way to rationalise use of that word is astounding. Kind of like the I have a black friend classic. I'm sorry I came back lurking today. Bad enough to hear that garbage from wiki/qpw, but that's a given,guess I just had a bad read on you..damn, I hate people sometimes


Thanks quarantined.

Glad to see I'm not the only one standing up against something which is clearly wrong.

I hope others who read this don't keep quiet and actually stand up against these bigoted idiots.
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