Actually there is.

Those of us who make some defence of on line poker need to refer to the group of people who are either stating or trying to insinuate that there is something wrong with the deal.

Similarly the second mention group need to refer the the first mentioned.

As it happens the two terms that have evolved here are rigtards and shills. In reality I'm sure that few of the 'unfair deal' group are literally ******ed and I'm equally sure that no poker site would pay people to keep this thread on the front page of the forum index most of the time.

Sorry you don't like the terms but I'm quite happy with them - partly at least because they are not intended in a very serious way.

As I say, I find it vaguely amusing.

to fatal and blue eyes, u guys simply talking to a brick wall.just go with your gut. I just ignore there theories of online being run legitimately.

But I'm assuming you and me would both like the same thing. To know what goes on on these sites and whether things are legitimate. That's what I'm working towards and if you spent less time insulting and mocking people then we could all work towards that together.

There you go, guys.

It's up to you.

Do you want to take guidance from an insane donk?

Come on qpw3. You can play with purepoker guy and "let's all be adults" guy for a while, but you do not need to resort to petty editing techniques. You did that to me a few times as well when we were not working together and lame is the best way to describe it as a tactic.


Let's use a spadebidder post as an example as he is one of the legitimately solid posters in the thread. He was nice enough to answer another mundane riggie's concerns with his answers that were



But now lets remove all the spacing and we get


As I said - lame tactic.


qpw3, their content is the fodder for you to have your fun while not playing poker and not working secretly with me, so just use that without modification to have your fun with them as needed. Also, try to figure out which one(if either) is a gimmick account, and toss in a few cracks at me as that will make you feel better as well, and will help maintain what the thread is really about - endless pointless silly debate for the sake of debate.


Feel free to quote me and remove all my spacing if you really believe in that technique


All the best.

I'm already pretty certain that, as far as the deal goes, all the main on line poker sites are legitimate.

There isn't really any work to be done there.

The thing that would change my mind is very simple, and should be easy enough to come by if the deal is unfair: Evidence of anomalies.

Until such evidence is produce it's pretty much stasis on that topic.

the difference between me and wiki arent that great. ive made money online, but saw some very alarming things that forced me to withdraw, and i never went back to that site again.

Im actually playing online now. Do so all the time. Its fun, and i make money, plus it readies me for tonights tourney at foxwoods, and the cash games after that.

I see things online that i dont see live very often and when i do, its a story someone tells for a long time, and they may never see it again.

Monteroy

Can't you go to the doctor and get some hormones or something?

You're certain based on what ?

That is completely false. I won't bother to explain why, as you can find a hundred explanations in this thread alone.

A site only profits more by having more players in seats on a 24/7 averaged basis. No other way. Artificially juiced pot sizes would almost surely decrease site profits.

Your other arguments are equally ridiculous, but I'm not going to be the one to educate you.

And it still reads as an articulate and knowledgeable piece of prose.

Unlike your hormonal whining - although, similarly, removing the elective spacing doesn't detract from the value of that either.

Again, why dont online poker rooms accept rake the way a casino normally would?

I also never said online poker sites are run illegitmately, theyre probably run just fine, although Full Tilt's customer service/treatment of customers is pretty bad. Their "deck" (lol yeah right) isnt a deck of cards though. Its a program. A program designed for them and their site. A dealer dealing my cards tonight isnt dealing a designed deck or deal. Its random. He takes the deck out of the shuffler and deals the hand, and the play is remarkably different.

The hundreds of thousands of players, many of whom make detailed investigations of their hand histories without finding a single piece of evidence that the deal is unfair.

It's the same reason that I trust most airlines to fly me from place to place.

It's not because I have detailed knowledge of their training and maintenance procedures, it's because they do not, routinely, crash aircraft.

Right, so you've seen some of these detailed investigations ?

Could you show me some ?

but im BEGGING to be educated as to WHY they collect rake in that way

please explain why

No.

In the same way that I haven't seen detailed investigations that major airlines do not crash aircraft very often.

I don't need to see such investigations because every time there is a crash it's all over the media.

Much the same as the 'head assplode' that would take place the moment someone found evidence of an unfair deal.

Have to admit, you do have a fairly bizarre fantasy like qpw3. In addition to thinking about me in that special way you do, you can also have your fun with the new crop of riggies (fake or real...), hope none of them report you for being a banned poster under a new account, and continue to not be an actual poker player.

All good stuff for the shill resume


Off for the day again, you can have the final shot as per usual (I assume within 5 minutes of this post). Make it another sexual/mental health/hormones comment again if that gives you kicks - to each his own.

All the best.

That subject is off topic in this thread.

I don't think that's a very fair analogy though Wiki.

Surely if these thousands of investigations exist, it wouldn't take much for someone to show us one.

It seems bizarre that you'd make up your mind so conclusively without bothering to look at the results of the investigations.

lol at that. not an actual poker player.

that explains the behavior.

no, its not off topic. its the direct reason online poker software is the way it is. its dead on topic.

Well, you can ask.

Not really.

The deal seems perfectly fair to me and I'm confident that with so many people playing if there was anything amiss someone would have reported it.

You're still trying to turn this thing on its head, though.

It's for someone to provide Evidence of anomalies - just one credible one would do - rather than for the 'not unfair' side to provide thousands of different analyses to cover every possible way the deal could be anomalous.

In your opinion, maybe.

But as you, yourself, said:

So, not much incentive to treat what you post as anything credible.

Good grief, did someone once tell you you were clever? Or funny?

Not really any need, is there?

Your posts clearly demonstrate that you have some kind of weird personality problem.

Rather like the way you keep 'leaving' this thread and then returning and making multiple lame posts when you get hormonal.