I get tired of the Monteroy troll routine sometimes, but I have to give credit where it is due - this one was A+.

Monty,
Most of your reply to me, If not all of it, just goes to show that you are no more than just a pompous jerk.

1) You have made assumptions about my age......wrong!
But even worse, you have waffled on about age, and that, by your comments, is offensive. Not to me, but you are impying that when you hit a certain age that your faculties have gone. I don't know where you are from, but the most powerful man in the world is 73. One of the biggest morons in the world is 35.



2) My use and ability to use the internet.
Goid knows how you fell into that trap and responded the way you did.
You know....the refernce to fish and how easy they are to catch.
Well you fell into that didnt you? I had to laugh at your pompous, supercilious
reply.


3) ...2 seconds!!
That was so tongue-in cheek.
Your response tells me something about you. Not exactly sure......but I think it has "whit" on the end



So, I have some good news for you.

The Escobar Institute for Truth, Equity and Fairnesss want to nominate you for the prestigous "Shill of the Year" award.

So all you need is to let them know who is paying you.
Sorry, forgot to add. I told them you would probably would not accept.
You had your eyes on the "Shill of the Decade".
Was I out of order?


You may not get a quick response.
The founder passed away a few years back from lead poisioning.
The foundation members are still mourning his passing. Apparently he was on a roof without his shirt on when he succumbed. Rumour is that he had been playing on-line poker and hit a Ace flush when he got donked out by 8 quads.

For some strange reason this caused him to discard his shirt, climb through an open window and yelling "On line poker is so rigged"

So Monty.....look forward to your wordy, pompous,supercilious response


All the worst!!!

How do you manage to misspell a three letter word?

For the same reason he wouldn't be able to manage to get a three digit IQ.

He excels at it.

First time I looked in this thread, it's amazing - I didn't realise there was such a completely wacky tinfoil hat corner of 2+2

It's the most fun thread on the forum, great laughs.

Take a look at the tuff_fish videos on youtube, they are clear proof of online poker being rigged. The guy is always beat even when he has a strong hand. His angry rants sum up the feelings of most online players.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tuff+fish

Exactly. The "shuffle" can be truly random, but how the cards are dealt is a different monster.

The Venn diagram of:

- Angry rants
- Losing player

Has a lot of overlap.

I searched for that guy on Youtube and came up with this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGm-BqSGUZA

Only watched the first hand. His play and reasoning were atrociously bad.

He limps KK UTG. Gets 5 callers so he overbets the pot on the flop.

Then on the turn he again overbets the pot into the 3 players who called and says 'he wants all the players gone' - Even though he said it I don't think he realized that he turned his KK into a bluff.

He checks the river then says that if his opponent bets he will be forced to shove.

I think his thought process was simply - 'I have KK, I deserve to win this pot so I won't fold'

Haha, if serious, that's awesome - using Tuff Fish as evidence of anything other than that tilting mad men play poker is some A+ comedy.

I can think of any number of ways a truly nefarious company could have an RNG certificate and still not deal a fair game; not sure how well any of them would work, but the possibility could be there. But...what's your point?

This is one of the funniest poker-related YTs there is and his series of videos became a classic, over the years. (The originals have been removed. I think I heard he died, unfortunately.)

If you only watched the first hand, you missed out on some serious belly laughing.

Here's one of his most popular threads, here: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...07/?highlight=

Rigged...



Will the pokersites take any action ? Like banning russia and "ukraine" (Krim) ?

Nothing in that post has anything to do with sites being rigged.

That aside, are you really hoping that poker sites are going to ban entire countries based on the word of one unknown poster from some unknown forum on some unknown date about some unknown bots alleged to be playing on some unknown sites?

I notice you have quite an obsession with Russians.

Of course online poker is rigged. If technology exists that will direct monetary profit to a specific location it will be employed. Especially if this can be accomplished with zero risk of criminal prosecution.....Im sorry but you gotta be a real bank a dumb**** not to embrace this reality. Or youre just a complete tard. Or your income is dependent on convincing some fools not to believe their own eyes.......

Aside from rigging the other issue is botting. Not knowing if your opponent is human or not puts a lot of players off.

I wonder how much joy is sucked out of life for you by this mindset. Skepticism is good, but the default position that everyone will rip you off if they can get away with it sounds pretty unhealthy. Hopefully it's not projection.

Botting is definitely a major issue, but it's got nothing to do with this thread.

I receive great joy not having my pocket picked like a fool by online poker algorithms. Plus theres the added sense of satisfaction when Im able to convince some folks to believe their own eyes. When the beats seam ridiculous just stop spending. Easy peasy

You do know that good players make money playing online right?

I mean, I totally encourage you not to play because you are not a good player. There is no 'pick pocketing' going on though, you're just bad.

Go to 5:30 on this video and you will see professional poker player and recent bracelet winner Luke Schwartz describing pokerstars as "Rigged".

Case Closed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4UEj9Znxng

He's complaining about collusion.

Over the last 3 years I am not even sure if i have even had 3 losing months. I sit on bots left and if i spot collusion i simply mark the players and leave the table. The bots and collusion these days is way less then it used to be. So if yo u think its bad now think about what we went through 4 or 5 years ago when security was awful. The security is way better and players are on to this nonsense now and reporting. If anyone is using a bot or colluding they are doing it with fear cause a lot of them are being caught and funds confiscated. ACR is way better now. I think they removed around 50 bots now and the games are much softer. I used to think online poker was rigged until i got proper training and started asking winning regs about hands and then my results got a lot better. And I am not talking about winning more money but about my decision making. Before i was not sure if my decision was right or not. But now I know what the best play to make to maximize my ev in i would say 99% of my situations. And that takes some serious dedication to get to that point because plo and even holdem are very complex games.

He firstly calls pokerstars cash games "rigged as ****" and then latterly mentions collusion. Two seperate issues. Weird that the guy can win everywhere else, even winning a bracelet this year but can't win on pokerstars cash games. Perhaps they really are "rigged as ****" as he says. iburydoscocaroaches, I disagree, I think hold em is a pretty simply game actually, annoyingly so after a while.

I'd comment on it being pretty silly to suggest that one guy saying it's rigged means the case is closed, but then I remembered that you're the guy who said that Tuff Fish videos "are clear proof of online poker being rigged".

Hopefully you don't play online poker, or just do so for entertainment.

Wait until he finds the screenshot of the 5 aces on Pokerstars or the Full Tilt "University Study," or the Party Poker dealer with the card up his sleeve. Those seem to fit his need to go "A-Ha" with really dusty debunked moments of the past, so hopefully he will discover them and the case will be re-opened and closed yet again. The "Known Pro" thing has been in my riggie list for over half a decade:

A Known Poker Pro Talking about Rigging that riggies can admire:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...756&postcount=

As a side note, anybodywho implies Tuff_Fish was a riggie should get infraction points for that. Tuff_fish was essentially the first streamer, one who is still entertaining to watch today (as opposed to The Micros for instance) and should be in the online poker hall of fame (if one existed).