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11-14-2015 , 05:32 PM
Is Martha Stewart really a billionaire? Is she really worth that much?
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11-14-2015 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Irarelypost
Is Martha Stewart really a billionaire? Is she really worth that much?
The reports say she is. I obviously can't know for sure.
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11-14-2015 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
The reports say she is. I obviously can't know for sure.
A TV clown that has betrayed people before anyways really is the perfect example. Now please continue mentioning the TV churches and their comedy charities into the own pocket as well. What that has to do with the topic here will remain your secret tho.
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11-14-2015 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
The reports say she is. I obviously can't know for sure.
We haven't forgotten that ridiculous wager nonsense yet. Maybe leave it another week and come back?
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11-14-2015 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bingo_Boy
We haven't forgotten that ridiculous wager nonsense yet. Maybe leave it another week and come back?
No. I am done with u people. I laid out my terms and all I hear is ******ed commentz. Good luck. I have no need to be responding to monty and u guys all day.
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11-14-2015 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
No. I am done with u people. I laid out my terms and all I hear is ******ed commentz.
If you were actually serious about 9 or 10 hands, then your terms were laughable and worthy of ridicule. If you weren't serious, then no, you never did lay out all the terms.
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11-14-2015 , 09:57 PM
He actually said terms for the most part, and I passed because I know he will never pay if he lost the bet, so it was essentially a freeroll against me where he had a small (5-10%) chance to win, given his required statistically meaningless sample size.

Someone else with a reputation similar to his accepted all of his terms, but that is when jungmit chose to vanish for a while as I predicted.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=79050

So, he has someone willing to do his exact wager with his exact terms, and that person has as much of a chance to pay if he loses as judgmit has to pay. Even with that it will never happen as again I predicted (much like his heads up challenge where he refuses to say which room it will take place on), because people like him are all talk and no action.

He might technically win the Martha Stewart wager, so he probably would follow through on that one if pressed...
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11-15-2015 , 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
I laid out my terms and all I hear is ******ed commentz. .
That's how the world works. If you act like a ******,....


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Originally Posted by jungmit
I have no need to be responding to monty and u guys all day
You had to for some reason when you proposed that idiotic bet of yours.
Have one for you: I bet you that I can predict the exact number of days until they finally shove you into a rubber room.
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11-15-2015 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by iFold2MinRaise
That's how the world works. If you act like a ******,....




You had to for some reason when you proposed that idiotic bet of yours.
Have one for you: I bet you that I can predict the exact number of days until they finally shove you into a rubber room.
The reason was to work out terms. We couldn't so conversation is over
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11-15-2015 , 12:11 PM
I linked someone who accepted all of your terms, so why will you not do the bet with him? I mean, everyone knows you will never do it, and will never pay if you somehow did it and lost, but it is fun asking simple, direct questions to someone like you to see how you will continue not to answer them.


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=79050

^^^ He accepted your terms. Time for you to do your bet or admit you never planned on doing it and made up your whole prediction super power.

All the best.
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11-15-2015 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
He actually said terms for the most part, and I passed because I know he will never pay if he lost the bet, so it was essentially a freeroll against me where he had a small (5-10%) chance to win, given his required statistically meaningless sample size.

Someone else with a reputation similar to his accepted all of his terms, but that is when jungmit chose to vanish for a while as I predicted.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=79050

So, he has someone willing to do his exact wager with his exact terms, and that person has as much of a chance to pay if he loses as judgmit has to pay. Even with that it will never happen as again I predicted (much like his heads up challenge where he refuses to say which room it will take place on), because people like him are all talk and no action.

He might technically win the Martha Stewart wager, so he probably would follow through on that one if pressed...
I would pay on any bet i lost. Don't assume when u don't know the answer.
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11-15-2015 , 12:16 PM
No you would not, but that is not the issue.

That guy accepted all of your terms, so why are you not doing the bet with him? The one you proposed this whole time.

If you do not follow through with the person who accepted all of your terms that shows that you were lying this whole time about the prop bet (just like you were about the heads up match when you refused to say the room).

I suppose we will never see if you would pay someone, because you keep backing out of bets you propose, even when all the terms are accepted. Chickens gonna chicken. Liars gonna lie.

All the best.
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11-15-2015 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
The reason was to work out terms. We couldn't so conversation is over
Monteroy offered to bet you $1,000 to do 500 trials, or $2 a hand, so I'll bet you $20 that if we look at 10 flops you won't correctly say what the turn or river card is 8 times, as you previously said you would be able to.

As with his stipulations, you get to choose 3 cards and whatever cards you call out hitting on the turn or river counts as a win for you (for that hand), a miss on both streets is a loss, with no extra points if 2 of the cards you call hit. I'll also let you skip making a call on up to 5 flops, making it so we potentially see 15 hands total.

The hands will be played by us at a PokerStars play money HU table, and I'll even do you the favor of typing my hole cards into chat before the flop and before you have to decide to call out cards or skip that hand.

I'm sure we can work out a simple payment method (bank transfers or something similar) to figure out how to send one another $20 and have this fun little bet wrapped up today.
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11-15-2015 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Obvious Shill Alt
Monteroy offered to bet you $1,000 to do 500 trials, or $2 a hand, so I'll bet you $20 that if we look at 10 flops you won't correctly say what the turn or river card is 8 times, as you previously said you would be able to.

As with his stipulations, you get to choose 3 cards and whatever cards you call out hitting on the turn or river counts as a win for you (for that hand), a miss on both streets is a loss, with no extra points if 2 of the cards you call hit. I'll also let you skip making a call on up to 5 flops, making it so we potentially see 15 hands total.

The hands will be played by us at a PokerStars play money HU table, and I'll even do you the favor of typing my hole cards into chat before the flop and before you have to decide to call out cards or skip that hand.

I'm sure we can work out a simple payment method (bank transfers or something similar) to figure out how to send one another $20 and have this fun little bet wrapped up today.
Yes he offered 500 flops. I said 10 he declined. Too far to meet in middle I guess.
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11-15-2015 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
No you would not, but that is not the issue.

That guy accepted all of your terms, so why are you not doing the bet with him? The one you proposed this whole time.

If you do not follow through with the person who accepted all of your terms that shows that you were lying this whole time about the prop bet (just like you were about the heads up match when you refused to say the room).

I suppose we will never see if you would pay someone, because you keep backing out of bets you propose, even when all the terms are accepted. Chickens gonna chicken. Liars gonna lie.

All the best.
Monty u have no idea who I am. If u keep attacking my character I will put in a formal complaint against you!
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11-15-2015 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Obvious Shill Alt
Monteroy offered to bet you $1,000 to do 500 trials, or $2 a hand, so I'll bet you $20 that if we look at 10 flops you won't correctly say what the turn or river card is 8 times, as you previously said you would be able to.

As with his stipulations, you get to choose 3 cards and whatever cards you call out hitting on the turn or river counts as a win for you (for that hand), a miss on both streets is a loss, with no extra points if 2 of the cards you call hit. I'll also let you skip making a call on up to 5 flops, making it so we potentially see 15 hands total.

The hands will be played by us at a PokerStars play money HU table, and I'll even do you the favor of typing my hole cards into chat before the flop and before you have to decide to call out cards or skip that hand.

I'm sure we can work out a simple payment method (bank transfers or something similar) to figure out how to send one another $20 and have this fun little bet wrapped up today.
How can we get money to each other for whoever wins? As with my original stipulation I do not have to call it every flop, just the ones I choose?
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11-15-2015 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
How can we get money to each other for whoever wins?
Something like B of A's transfer feature, or PayPal, or Amazon, or Chase Quickpay. There are plenty of methods where we'd just need to know the other's email and last name.
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As with my original stipulation I do not have to call it every flop, just the ones I choose?
You can skip up to 5.
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11-15-2015 , 02:20 PM
If those rules are unclear to you imagine how everyone else felt reading yours.
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11-15-2015 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
How can we get money to each other for whoever wins? As with my original stipulation I do not have to call it every flop, just the ones I choose?
I guess you could agree on an escrow...


Dude, its for 20 bucks. Nobody expects you to pay if you lose, so just do the stupid bet already so you can at least claim you carried through on one of your silly prop bets. Report me to the internet police after you actually do the prop bet, otherwise they will call you a liar and coward as well!

All the best.
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11-15-2015 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Obvious Shill Alt
Something like B of A's transfer feature, or PayPal, or Amazon, or Chase Quickpay. There are plenty of methods where we'd just need to know the other's email and last name.
You can skip up to 5.
I don't use any of them things.
I can skip as many as I want
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11-15-2015 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
I guess you could agree on an escrow...


Dude, its for 20 bucks. Nobody expects you to pay if you lose, so just do the stupid bet already so you can at least claim you carried through on one of your silly prop bets. Report me to the internet police after you actually do the prop bet, otherwise they will call you a liar and coward as well!

All the best.
Seek help
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11-15-2015 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
The reason was to work out terms. We couldn't because I am a ****** beyond all hope
ftfy
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11-15-2015 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
I don't use any of them things.
I am sure he will agree to mailing pennies if that is the only method of payment you are capable of doing, or how about this - do you use a bank, any bank? If so you can mail a check or send a small money transfer or use Western Union. Hell, you can put a $20 bill in the mail. You ever have one of those?

Are you seriously going to keep trying to back out of your silly little prop bet with the excuse that you have no way of sending 20 bucks in the year 2015? Seriously, nobody believes you would pay anyway, so just do the bet, maybe get lucky with your supposed super power, and get it done with already. After you lose you can use any excuse you like about how it was rigged and you cannot pay, but at least it will be over!


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Originally Posted by jungmit
I can skip as many as I want
He will likely agree to that to a limit, or is your plan to skip hundreds in a row or something? Pick a reasonable number of hands you can skip to get to the 10 trials. Perhaps a total of 25 skips for instance. This also is a silly way for you to try to avoid doing your prop bet.

All the best.
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11-15-2015 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
I am sure he will agree to mailing pennies if that is the only method of payment you are capable of doing, or how about this - do you use a bank, any bank? If so you can mail a check or send a small money transfer or use Western Union. Hell, you can put a $20 bill in the mail. You ever have one of those?

Are you seriously going to keep trying to back out of your silly little prop bet with the excuse that you have no way of sending 20 bucks in the year 2015? Seriously, nobody believes you would pay anyway, so just do the bet, maybe get lucky with your supposed super power, and get it done with already. After you lose you can use any excuse you like about how it was rigged and you cannot pay, but at least it will be over!




He will likely agree to that to a limit, or is your plan to skip hundreds in a row or something? Pick a reasonable number of hands you can skip to get to the 10 trials. Perhaps a total of 25 skips for instance. This also is a silly way for you to try to avoid doing your prop bet.

All the best.
OK conversation is off track again. See u in another week
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11-15-2015 , 04:05 PM
Hopefully in that week you will figure out a way that one human can pay another human $20 in modern times so you can carry through on your prop bet. I would not bet on that though...

All the best.
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