That was my exact thought process. It is going to take more time to work out the details. I do not want to spend that time working out the details unless it is for a significant enough amount of money and I know that you actually have the money. Therefore, I want to first decide the bet amount and who the escrow agent will be and then escrow the money and then we can work out the details.

So, do you agree to do that first? And if so, how much do you want to bet? And do you have any suggestions as to who should be the escrow agent?






EDIT:

I just read through from the post I quoted to the post immediately before this one. At first I was thinking: "this is all the stuff I was trying to avoid by insisting on escrowing before discussing details," and then it became apparent that jungmit doesn't know what escrowing is. And if it seems that he has some idea of what it is now, he, for some reason, seems adverse adverse to the concept. Some funny stuff.


SECOND EDIT:

Although, then again, one of the first few posts with respect to this bet was jungmit responding to Monteroy and such post included:


What was meant by escrow there?




Also, this line of conversation happened, the last quote of which is what I was actually responding to here before reading the rest of the thread.


What was jungmit thinking escrow meant here? Jungmit?

The escrow need was dropped along with pretty much every other condition he complained about, except number of trials, because I am obviously never going to give him a chance to win this bet by luck when he will never pay after he loses. He already said he did not care if he got banned here, so he essentially admitted his reputation has no value. A person like that never pays.

Another poster of a reputation similar to jungmit basically accepted all of his conditions, including the trial size of 10, so given they both have an equal chance of paying if they lose (ie: none), this prop bet pretty much ran its course, as they usually do in 1-2 days.

Zero chance judgmit will go through with it, even though all of his conditions were agreed upon by another poster, and at this point since he has nothing else to complain about with regard to the conditions he needed, he will likely opt for the "does not care about it" routine, or just not post for a while (same thing) to let the thread reset back to its normal grind.

I had hoped he would bring something new and fun to the standard riggie challenge that goes nowhere, but he is fairly limited by just being him, so there were no surprises to be had.

Anyway, onto the next riggie!

I'm disappointed but life goes on, I guess.

If an escrow is assigned I'd still be willing to put up decent money on him not getting 75% of 9 flops. I know he will sometimes get lucky but the ROI on that bet has to be insane. Let him try and make a nice profitable bet.

He will never do an escrow, and he will never pay when he loses. Certainly makes the bet less interesting for 9 trials, doesn't it?

I really think that FTP now is rigged for fishes, it's impossible for me to win a hand against a fish lasts 30k hands. It may be a run, but I have 8 years playing and I have never seen this.

I wrote this in an NVG thread but due to my anger I had to come here and express my feelings

I played three $10 spin n gos in a row and didnt win the jackpot. Needless to say I was VERY pissed.

I wrote Pokerstars a very detailed letter full of accusations

So so upset

Wasn't funny the first time.

Terrible troll.

Awww poor lil baby.

Did I offend you because you think the spin and go's are rigged

Im so sorry

Running bad or change on 888 this month as the amount of gutshots on the turn hitting the river in Hyper SnGs is insane.

For and against allins, had 47 of last 65 hit that I identified and counted and a lot more action flops and turns.

Anomaly, insanity, or conscious software change at 888?

I will bet you $1000 right now that you can't show a hand history where 47 of 65 gutshot draws (4 outs) hit on the river.

Maybe I misunderstood you. But the chance that happened is 1 in a 35-digit number. It will never happen in this universe. It won't even ever happen if we count both turn and river hits. You are either mistaken or lying.

Yes, you made me cry. I'm completely shattered.

I'd love to vote "Rigged!!!!!!!" Unfortunately, after a very long time offline, I realize I just suck. So I sadly voted no.

We're not talking about beating/not beating the Spin&Gos, we're talking about the frequency of the jackpots.

Pokerstars does not display the spingos happening, that is a fact.
Other than them nobody truly knows what goes on, this is a fact.
Every time something or someone is not supervised at a given task or action, a chance for cheating reveals itself, fact. (As past experiences have demonstrated)
They could manipulate odds of jackpots to benefit themselves if that was their will, also a fact.

They could do it in what appears to be a seemingly unnoticeable fashion.

Ultimately it's all about trust, and considering the last set of events, that is not something that is exactly in abundance at the moment.

Imagine that you have a sample of 100 owners of random businesses, how many would go for a money grab, if they could do it in an unnoticeable fashion? 30? 42? 80? Well, someone eventually would, there are many unlikely events in the universe, however catching a boss with his hand on the cookie jar is certainly not one of them.

As far as reputation goes, even big bank corporations get caught in major scandals, such as Lehman Brothers, hell the whole Isle of Man is an entire world criminal organization. Junker (name says it all btw) was in involved in the swiss scandal regarding offshore accounts, and he still managed to be elected to a high position within the european union, repution is way overrated imo. You can trust spingos just as much as you can trust a slot.

And what about those with an entire brain?

Ah, you guys who post stuff like this are priceless. Dozens and dozens of threads on our forums that are critical of Stars, but when one with unsubstantiated allegations is merged into this thread, it's because 2+2 is protecting Stars.

If that was the motivation, why the threads wouldn't just be deleted rather than merged into one of this forum's most popular threads is something of a mystery, of course.

you should stop smoking crack right now.

maybe it's still both...

Why?He was perfectly reasonable.

Oh, well sorry then.

There are billionaires in jail for committing white collar crimes to make more money

Proof?

I like pizza.

Turtles.

Proof? Google it. Martha Stewart went to jail.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...NOXLPtgRL_l40A