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02-27-2013 , 07:30 PM
I tend to try and stay open minded in life about topics. If someone else has an opinion or view I respect it and respectfully disagree. However in relation to online poker when you have people termfully employed by pokersites or are affiliates and defend companies who are convicted felons that's where I question motive
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02-27-2013 , 07:34 PM
I can only hope that one day someone will termfully employ me.

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02-27-2013 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ScamCity
I tend to try and stay open minded in life about topics. If someone else has an opinion or view I respect it and respectfully disagree. However in relation to online poker when you have people termfully employed by pokersites or are affiliates and defend companies who are convicted felons that's where I question motive
Which companies have been convicted of felonies?
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02-28-2013 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jjwhite09
This is Dr. Montey's first post or any response at all towards me. Keep in mind that up until this point i had not even nor ever would have thought about this tool.

Here i was having a conversation with someone else entirely and this tool comes chiming in with his light saber up his rear like the yoda of all poker knowledge and just immediately starts calling names to start something.

Starts calling me a donk. This isn't even a strategy thread. This is the rigged thread and he just has to start his worthless day off by trying to antagonize someone.

Look at the length of this guys posts....WTF??? Talk about some lonely guy with absolutely no life at all...Thinks he knows whats best for everybody. Yeah...you're the joke!!!
And who is encouraging Monte?
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02-28-2013 , 02:37 AM
Fortunately I can wake up in the mornings knowing the industry I am in and company I work for has not been shut down/accused of frauding banks, cheating players, using super users. It must be very stressful being a shill/affiliate/pokersite employer posting in her continually day after day. I am glad the one employee who heeds the security has toned it down a bit and may actually be policing the site to at least look like there is a little bit of fairness going on.
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02-28-2013 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jjwhite09
The only person who thinks your some big shot forum master is you. JJ has not run his course anywhere and is not fading away anytime soon.

JJ basically silenced all your criticizm with his hand analysis which you probably still don't get.

It's kind of funny how your posts kept getting nicer and nicer the farther you shoved your foot down your throat.
EXACTLY. Well said
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02-28-2013 , 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ScamCity
Fortunately I can wake up in the mornings knowing the industry I am in and company I work for has not been shut down/accused of frauding banks, cheating players, using super users. It must be very stressful being a shill/affiliate/pokersite employer posting in her continually day after day. I am glad the one employee who heeds the security has toned it down a bit and may actually be policing the site to at least look like there is a little bit of fairness going on.
What industry are you in? What company do you work for?
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02-28-2013 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Arouet
This. I raise the white flag. Complete and utter defeat. There is no getting through to these people. It is completely and utterly impossible. I have tried. And tried. And tried. I give up. Congrats Donko, you beat me!

Monteroy, QPW, I apologize for doubting you. Insults, no insults, the results are the same. Flame on. You won't hear any more objection from me.
3 years later, Looking back even further to 2009 and the same shills, affiliates and employers here. Arouet, Monteroy, Josem and Wiki ( who post right after one another almost everytime) 5th streethog, Bobo the good mod.

L

Man, you guys are stuck in here. Even after giving up two years later still having the resolve to argue with "idiots". Imagine your compassion if you had a financial tie to online poker?

It's 2013. The sun shines bright! Go outside and get some guys!
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02-28-2013 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
What industry are you in? What company do you work for?
Take you to my leader?
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02-28-2013 , 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ScamCity
Fortunately I can wake up in the mornings knowing the industry I am in and company I work for has not been shut down/accused of frauding banks, cheating players, using super users. It must be very stressful being a shill/affiliate/pokersite employer posting in her continually day after day. I am glad the one employee who heeds the security has toned it down a bit and may actually be policing the site to at least look like there is a little bit of fairness going on.
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Originally Posted by Lego05
What industry are you in? What company do you work for?
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Originally Posted by ScamCity
Take you to my leader?
I could understand not wanting to say the company. I don't know why you need to say whatever that nonsense is to avoid saying what industry it is.
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02-28-2013 , 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
I could understand not wanting to say the company. I don't know why you need to say whatever that nonsense is to avoid saying what industry it is.
Porn, ok?
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02-28-2013 , 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ScamCity
Fortunately I can wake up in the mornings knowing the industry I am in and company I work for has not been shut down/accused of frauding banks, cheating players, using super users. It must be very stressful being a shill/affiliate/pokersite employer posting in her continually day after day. I am glad the one employee who heeds the security has toned it down a bit and may actually be policing the site to at least look like there is a little bit of fairness going on.
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Originally Posted by Lego05
What industry are you in? What company do you work for?
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Originally Posted by ScamCity
Take you to my leader?
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Originally Posted by Lego05
I could understand not wanting to say the company. I don't know why you need to say whatever that nonsense is to avoid saying what industry it is.
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Originally Posted by ScamCity
Porn, ok?

Nobody in the porn industry has ever been "shut down/accused of frauding banks"? That doesn't seem accurate.
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02-28-2013 , 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
Nobody in the porn industry has ever been "shut down/accused of frauding banks"? That doesn't seem accurate.
evidence?
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02-28-2013 , 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ScamCity
3 years later, Looking back even further to 2009 and the same shills, affiliates and employers here. Arouet, Monteroy, Josem and Wiki ( who post right after one another almost everytime) 5th streethog, Bobo the good mod.

L

Man, you guys are stuck in here. Even after giving up two years later still having the resolve to argue with "idiots". Imagine your compassion if you had a financial tie to online poker?

It's 2013. The sun shines bright! Go outside and get some guys!
+1
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02-28-2013 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ScamCity
I tend to try and stay open minded in life about topics. If someone else has an opinion or view I respect it and respectfully disagree. However in relation to online poker when you have people termfully employed by pokersites or are affiliates and defend companies who are convicted felons that's where I question motive
Perhaps you're open minded about some topics, but you've been decidedly closed-minded about posters' motivations, and you aren't questioning them, you're outright declaring people to be shills with no evidence.

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Originally Posted by ScamCity
+1
You didn't get enough support for your post in 15 minutes, so you need to +1 it yourself?
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02-28-2013 , 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ScamCity
Fortunately I can wake up in the mornings knowing the industry I am in and company I work for has not been shut down/accused of frauding banks, cheating players, using super users. It must be very stressful being a shill/affiliate/pokersite employer posting in her continually day after day. I am glad the one employee who heeds the security has toned it down a bit and may actually be policing the site to at least look like there is a little bit of fairness going on.
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Originally Posted by Lego05
What industry are you in? What company do you work for?
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Originally Posted by ScamCity
Take you to my leader?
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Originally Posted by Lego05
I could understand not wanting to say the company. I don't know why you need to say whatever that nonsense is to avoid saying what industry it is.
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Originally Posted by ScamCity
Porn, ok?
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Originally Posted by Lego05
Nobody in the porn industry has ever been "shut down/accused of frauding banks"? That doesn't seem accurate.
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Originally Posted by ScamCity
evidence?
Porn Shutdown Over Syphilis Outbreak

HIV-Positive Performer Shuts Down L.A. Porn Industry

Larry Flynt


Just a few google searches and knowing a little bit about Larry Flynt.


Obviously the government used to go after porn a lot more a couple decades ago, then it seems to now. At least IMO.





EDIT:

I'm not going to bother looking for examples of child porn and women being forced into porn type of stuff being shut down.






This is of course, a slightly large tangent from the supposed thread topic ... not that it matters all that much.

Last edited by Lego05; 02-28-2013 at 03:37 AM.
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02-28-2013 , 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ScamCity
evidence?
http://record-bergen.vlex.com/vid/po...ounts-62684701
http://money.cnn.com/1999/12/21/companies/keefe/
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2002/0218/038.html

Your turn.


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Which companies have been convicted of felonies?

Last edited by ILikeBeer; 02-28-2013 at 03:31 AM. Reason: fixed quotes now fixing pony
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02-28-2013 , 03:39 AM
Missed this one in regards to felonies, was a pretty big case at the time especially in the industry...both the owners and the company itself were charged and plead out.

http://business.highbeam.com/408995/...ert-zicari-and

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Extreme Associates, Zicari and Romano pleaded guilty on March 11, 2009, to a felony charge
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Not that I actually believe for an instant that's involved in porn...when has a rigtard ever been honest about anything to do with their lives?
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02-28-2013 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ScamCity
3 years later, Looking back even further to 2009 and the same shills, affiliates and employers here. Arouet, Monteroy, Josem and Wiki ( who post right after one another almost everytime) 5th streethog, Bobo the good mod.
Yes, how odd that "shills" tend to reply in the thread all bunched together. You certainly never see riggies' posts all bunched together or anything, and there's nothing obvious that would cause replies from one side or the other to be bunched together aside from being paid to post, of course.

I guess when you're as clever as the sites are at rigging, making it easily detectable for a gifted few (who can never even explain exactly what the rig they've detected is) but undetectable for nerds using "math", you'd go with the brilliant strategy of covering it up by paying people to post all at once.
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02-28-2013 , 02:41 PM
Hi everyone! Remember me?

Well here is my latest observations while playing poker. I believe that all online poker is rigged.

So a couple of weeks ago I went on vacation for 2 weeks, then came back. And as expected, my crazy as **** bad beats were gone! Due to my absence from the poker room, it had labeled me as non addicted. Thus it had to provide me with luck. So I played intensely for one week and was at about 8-900 euro profit! Down to like 7-800 now. Just when I almost thought I was a consistent proffessional after consistently winning every single day the luck turned and I just couldn't profit at all anymore. After some days of unluck I bought holdem manager. And instantly the moment I used it while playing luck was back and I kept winning. Not because stats help me but ****ed up unlucky bs all the time was gone. Obviously holdem manager has some interesting deals with the poker rooms to provide luck after buying it to make happy costumers. But then like 2-3 days later again unluck was back at its worst and it's just impossible to win.

To provide some examples: It's just ****ed up how everytime I got a solid hand that's worth betting with it's beaten! Whenever I have AA either everyone folds, or it's beaten, wtf? If I have TPTK, either everyone folds or bitches flop sets on me. Donks calling with lower kicker or 2nd pair are gone? Well the real reason is, the website don't give me any more good situations where both me and opponents have hands worth betting and I have the best hand. Last two times I went all in preflop with AK preflop, a ****** called with KQ. But he flopped straight ofcorse. 2nd time someone had AA. Then the unluck continued in all the most crazy ways possible, so I just give up poker for now..

Conclusion: Online poker is rigged as ****

Last edited by Faen; 02-28-2013 at 02:55 PM.
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02-28-2013 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Faen
So I played intensely for one week and was at about 8-900 euro profit! Down to like 7-800. now Just when I almost thought I was a consistent proffessional after consistently winning every single day the luck turned and I just couldn't profit at all anymore.
You sound like you use very solid bankroll management but the world is out to get you. Very unfortunate.
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02-28-2013 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Faen

To provide some examples: It's just ****ed up how everytime I got a solid hand that's worth betting with it's beaten! Whenever I have AA either everyone folds, or it's beaten, wtf?

Conclusion: Online poker is rigged as ****
Remember when you hold AA you have 2 blockers of a lot of other good hands so it's more likely that everyone else will fold

Try keeping a scrap piece of paper near your computer and keep a tally of everytime AA wins and loses (heads-up), you might be surprised at the results
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02-28-2013 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Faen

Due to my absence from the poker room, it had labeled me as non addicted.
You learned them!
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02-28-2013 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Faen
Hi everyone! Remember me?

Well here is my latest observations while playing poker. I believe that all online poker is rigged.

So a couple of weeks ago I went on vacation for 2 weeks, then came back. And as expected, my crazy as **** bad beats were gone! Due to my absence from the poker room, it had labeled me as non addicted. Thus it had to provide me with luck. So I played intensely for one week and was at about 8-900 euro profit! Down to like 7-800 now. Just when I almost thought I was a consistent proffessional after consistently winning every single day the luck turned and I just couldn't profit at all anymore. After some days of unluck I bought holdem manager. And instantly the moment I used it while playing luck was back and I kept winning. Not because stats help me but ****ed up unlucky bs all the time was gone. Obviously holdem manager has some interesting deals with the poker rooms to provide luck after buying it to make happy costumers. But then like 2-3 days later again unluck was back at its worst and it's just impossible to win.

To provide some examples: It's just ****ed up how everytime I got a solid hand that's worth betting with it's beaten! Whenever I have AA either everyone folds, or it's beaten, wtf? If I have TPTK, either everyone folds or bitches flop sets on me. Donks calling with lower kicker or 2nd pair are gone? Well the real reason is, the website don't give me any more good situations where both me and opponents have hands worth betting and I have the best hand. Last two times I went all in preflop with AK preflop, a ****** called with KQ. But he flopped straight ofcorse. 2nd time someone had AA. Then the unluck continued in all the most crazy ways possible, so I just give up poker for now..

Conclusion: Online poker is rigged as ****
Translation please.
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02-28-2013 , 04:52 PM
tl;dr fish loses money playing poker, decides it's rigged against him.
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