Really nothing to do with a self esteem boost.
Youre stepping on the toes of all these site promoters, affiliates, employees, etc. and their financial interest. (The online poker scam).
One of the biggest things they hate with a passion is seeing or hearing the truth about the deal manipulation that goes on in online poker.

I wonder if magic has a financial interest in people clicking on his youtube videos?

He definitely should monetize his product he provides to riggies. I still remember the affiliate years ago that asked riggies to help them uncover the truth by playing at a lot of rooms and reporting to them (as they made $50 per room sign up), and I thought that was very clever.

Really does not matter if Magic is a genuine riggie (he probably is or was), as long as his message is what they want to hear then they will pay for it and support it. Some riggies still support Real Deal poker which is pretty comical (did players there ever get their money back when they poofed).

I don't think a ton can be made from riggies (again, see Real Deal Poker) because they in general have very small amounts of money, but certainly some small businesses that have a following should make something for it, much like the pokerisrigged site does from riggies for instance (another affiliate site).

Riggies will of course think this is all part of the cover up, and in fact that is what guys like Magic and pokerisrigged (ie: businesses that target riggies) should say as well to better sell their products to them.

Straight to by bank account within 5 days. Shock I know, but there is a world outside of the USA

He has a poll on his site whether they would buy t-shirts or caps, made me laugh. I'd buy one just to wear to the casino

See my previous post plus the "earn $xxx working from home" banner ad on his site. Surprise that he also has his status as single, don't know why that didn't shock me.

I quite enjoy actually looking into the sites that riggies worship, it really does uncover their shallow thought process.

And sorry to mods for multi posts, not worked out how to multi quote from new phone yet

Cant wait to see if J9MORON will get his posts merged.
Dont think merging applies to site defenders, shills,etc.

I have not watched his videos in a while. My memory was that he swore all the time which made them pretty boring to watch in general.

He might make a few bucks selling trinkets (as he should), but I doubt he will ever create much of an industry from it since riggies have very little income to spend. They will shower him with love and praise, but I would be surprised if any of the ones in this thread ever sent the guy $15 or $20 for a shirt.

I assume he can work out a way for some payment if he gets a big enough following, but even that will have its limits as his product is not that fun to watch, especially to those without interest in poker. No chance he will go "viral" like the Star Wars kid or the Cupcake dog.

If he is a genuine riggie (probably is) then the attention and spending money is going to be his compensation for his work, though I would question whether that is worth all the time he has to spend creating the videos. In contrast, affiliate sites like ispokerrigged work harder at securing whatever riggie dollars they can, if I remember they have some form of laughable sponsored player concept (where players basically fund themselves while playing on their affiliate) which is created specifically for stupid people and/or riggies.

A fun market to talk about, but really small and niche.

Want to see an excellent example of one of these jerks protecting his financial interest (the OLP scam). SEE ABOVE

He does. His blogtv site is a rev share program for the banner ads that run on there. He gets 50% of all advertising revenue generated on his pages. And putting some of the videos on youtube is to drive traffic to his site (they all link to it). He also appears to be affiliated with some other monetized web sites promoting rigged online poker.

He figured out an interested market and he gives them what they want. And he's pretty good at it too. It doesn't matter what he believes.

Riggie style customers are pretty tricky because all sorts of gimmickry get rich quick schemes will appeal to them, so creating a more "mainstream" product is a challenge.

Real Deal was a complete flop because what they wanted to do (create an online poker room) requires so much capital and eventual income that riggies cannot support it alone.

Dudes like Magic use more "sweat equity" and again I would be curious to see what his estimated bottom line is for the effort he has put into all of these videos.

I suspect he is or was a genuine riggie at some point, and eventually when he got a bit of a following started enjoying being the character that riggies love. That is certainly a good building block for milking riggies of their money (what limited amount exists), however the advertising would definitely be needed and I am curious how that form of advertising works, and whether it can generate any significant income.

I am not surprised if he is partnered with other sites (likely affiliates) with standard links to poker sites, but riggies will ignore that as long as he stays on message with his videos.

Interesting stuff, if he is running this more as a business then I wish him the best of luck as I like creative businesses with loyal, unquestioning customers.

If it hasn't been mentioned, he also got banned from the Merge network for collusion. Not just a [maybe fake] riggie, but a suspected cheater too. Then he made a video and said yeah he sometimes folds AA preflop because he's just that good.

Riggies will not care if he colluded/cheated (an actual real problem in the industry), as they will simply say that is part of the whole cover up to discredit him.

If he cheated then obviously he should be banned, but that is a separate issue from the business he is trying to create to get $$$ from riggies, and if he can make a good amount from giving riggies what they want,then in that specific area I will be curious to see how well he does.

>> [NSFW] 20bb effective and dealt QQ on the BTN blinds 5/10k. <<

must be colluding

Rule number one: Throw away your cards the moment you know they can't win. "Mike Mcdermott"

He does not make any income/charge a service for making youtube videos/blogtv about online poker.(other than what he wins in MTTS etc..)

Everything that magic puts out on the web regarding online poker is out of his own pocket and does not charge any fee to the riggies..

it's all FREE!!!!

So he has ad banners up just for funsies or what? You don't have to make people pay you to make money off of them. Ever heard of Google?

This forum is completely free to use as well. Mason and crew must be a real generous bunch of guys running this for our entertainment with no financial reward. God bless them

Feel's post shows why guys like him are a perfect niche to target once you get them hooked, as their simplistic views on everything often times cloud their common sense with regard to how the real world works.

The Magic guy's videos are likely more genuine passion and less income based, but he certainly wants to make money doing what he is doing if he can, and nothing wrong with that.

Kind of amusing that some of Magic's devout followers have no idea that they are basically helping him earn extra advertising money as part of their behavior. Ironically, they have become his unpaid shills.

Still at least we will get a mention in his next video release, something like;

"those ****ing site promoters or the ****ing forums will tell you ****ing differently but don't ****ing believe them" followed by pop up

EARN $465 A WEEK, EVERY WEEK, WORKING FROM HOME

nice try.

I am not green, nor a sucker.

good luck at the tables everyone.

You had no idea that Magic makes advertising money from you clicking on his videos, and you still seem to not entirely get that. This makes you more naive than a "sucker" though guys like you are fairly vulnerable for various get rich quick schemes as well whenever the sales pitch tells you what you want to hear.

A good example of the above would be the link the google addicted riggie posted in this thread for a person stating how corrupt online poker was when his goal was to get people to sign up to online casinos via his affiliate links. That riggie got distracted by the "online poker is evil" comments and failed to see what the guy's real agenda was in that case.

I am not saying that should make you stop watching his videos, in fact if they provide you with enjoyment you should continue support them (as all customers do with products/services they enjoy), even if he makes money from you doing just that. Magic provides riggies with a service and product they like so he should make money from doing that.

All the best.

magic612 would never make money off his videos! Never!

It's still real to Feel, dammit!

Hi there Josem,

You appear to be the only Pokerstars employee who posts in this thread and declares your status as a poker industry employee. Well done on that.

Do you know of other Pokerstars employees who post in this thread and elsewhere on the forum?

Do they make clear their status when they post?

Does Pokerstars employ or pay people to post on this forum and others like it? Are they instructed on what to say/not say?

Are you familiar with the software side of Pokerstars? Do you know who created the software and if they have created similar software for other online poker companies or internet gaming operations?

I've got quite a few more questions, but if you could answer those first it would be a good start.

Thanks for your co-operation.

Thanks.
No.
Yes.
There are some people who post on behalf of PokerStars, and they are described appropriately, such as here: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/209878/

In addition, some PokerStars employees have a private account to use when they are not representing the company.
Yes, as described above, those accounts are properly described/noted.
Obviously, when they are posting on behalf of the company they are posting on behalf of the company and act accordingly.
Yes.
Yes.
Not that I know of.