I assume that the people you are talking about currently make a living playing online poker, so I assume they are not stupid and addicted.

I don't think it is a particularly sensible lifestyle choice but good luck to them. You would do it in a heartbeat if you could.

I already know shills dont play on these rigged OLP sites. They are not that stupid.
Doing a good job for wiki with your "no evidence that any site is rigged". Who are you trying to dupe/convince? You should know by now Im not that ignorant or naive to buy that line of crap.

LOL yea right. Smoke weed much?

Honest feedback from a real player. NICE. So rare in this forum.
You need to read the thread im talking about. Its in the internet section under ALOBAR, whos coming with me. You will find it entertaining as hell. People moving to one room shacks in Costa Rica i would guess to feed their addiction and leaving the U.S.

Are you going to tell them they are a bunch of stupid addicts?

Yeah, those sick weirdos making enough money off of poker that it's worth it for them to move out of the country to continue playing.

I shed a tear every time some degenerate MLB player decides to go play in Japan.

You keep making this mathematically ignorant mistake. Stop posting until you educate yourself about variance.

Truth, have you tried doing this test.
If you flip a coin twice then there is a 100% chance you wont have more than 2 more heads than tails. 3 times theres a good chance you will have 2 or more of one than the other.
The trend continues until 100 times you are very unlikely to have LESS than a difference of two between heads and tails.
EV doesn't converge. Variance doesn't shrink.

Do you believe there is any point to posting these beats? Or are you in a stupid contest with BR?

People who make that choice (and it is the right one for only a few players) do so because they make a consistent income from the game, and moving for them is similar to how other people in the real world relocate for their work.

In contrast, a nobody like you who put in a couple hundred bucks and whines when he loses to a 2 outer in $2 games is in a different situation, and certainly moving to play poker is pointless for you since it represents no income for you anyway.

That's why guys like you should absolutely quit all forms of poker as quickly as possible. Go to the park and feed birds would be +EV for you, but for others the choice is based on much different factors.

US players do have viable options, and each should make the one right for them. Riggies in general should never play another hand of online poker ever again.

Mike - quit all forms of online poker today and never look back. Listen to me - that is the right choice for you.

All the best.

The attention whore is getting starved now Wiki is not here to humour him.

Suggest we all treat his posts with the contempt they deserve and see how much of a frenzy it can wind itself into.

+1

If having a hissy fit makes you feel better that is fine as long as you make the correct choice for you in quitting all forms of poker. Whether you accept or realize that others can make a good living at it is fairly unimportant to them and you, and if you want to pretend nobody can because you can't beat online poker that is fine as well if that too makes you feel better.

In the end be sure you never, ever play another hand of online poker. Listen to me, and if you really need a second opinion go ask blatantdue, then the two of you can hold hands and yell at clouds all day long to your heart's content.

Just be sure that YOU never play another hand of online poker.

All the best.

Let's pretend everything you say about the industry is correct, that they are all out to get you, or get everyone. They lie even when they lie about lying about lies.

Assuming all of that is true, the fact remains that you do not have the power to change it, and the vast majority of players are happy either as casual players or ones that grind and make a living.

Given your beliefs that you will always be cheated (which I am not even debating, because frankly they do not matter), the correct choice for YOU is to cash out and uninstall every poker software and never play again.

Not sure what other choices you think are correct for you, but if you plan to continue playing online poker feel free to explain the logic behind the choice, given you do not win and always believe you are being cheated.

Reality is not always kind and your reality is that the only power you have is to deny them your business, and since you are not a winning player that also serves your needs as well to save the little money you have left.

However you reach that choice - the only correct one for you is to never play another hand of online poker. If you want me to say do it because they are always lying and cheating to you, then sure whatever - I don't care what your beliefs and faith are in that area. Just do yourself a favor never play again.

All the best.

LOL, it's one of the reasons, though not the only one, that I live overseas. I also have know three others who all left the US so they could continue making 100k plus per year at online poker. Poor suckers. Truly sad that there are people (at least one) so certain of their being right that no evidence to the contrary will ever get them to re-examine their position. I wonder if it's just poker or if they're this screwed up with everything in life? Oh, well.

evidence? Or site promoter propaganda. Ill go with the latter.

LOL
"Poor suckers". You said it!!

monteroy, hows that new tactic that youre using about cashing out, uninstalling the software and never looking back going?
Has it helped reel in more naive players to your coaching/staking business? Kept the ignorant from doing what you propose? You sure do like using it. I assume you think people will read it and think "screw that, I can beat OLP" Correct?
Preying on the ignorant and naive. Great way to make a living.

Mike,
You're more than a solid carpenter and if you had any part in designing what you built, you're not a dumb guy (and I think you did). You seem to be really emotionally attached to the argument that the online sites did other things so they must also fix the RNGs. That's possible. It's also possible that they felt thr risk of being caught with this was just too high with the prevalence of PT3 and Holdem Manager out there. If it's true that they aren't and haven't, it's possible you're not as strong as you thought/think at poker, and there's no shame in this--I thought I was much better than I actually was for a long, long time. I got a coach and reconfigured my game and now make a living at it--I ask you to believe me in this as I believe those photos were yours and not just something you pulled up from some random ad. I've played at and made money at primarily two sites: Full Tilt and Paradise (I made a living for a couple years at UB as a prop player but I was slightly worse than breakeven and lived on the 100% rakeback I got).
I don't believe either site rigs the RNGs even though I have seen crazy bad beats many a time. In fact my ROI is almost identical from one to the other: 15%. You can look my FT screenname up. The results are up to the point they were shut down...Daffydeth. Good luck to you whether you quit poker or not (and I don't say you should, just find someone who is an ONLINE winner and learn from them). We had our back and forth earlier in the thread, but I'm going to apologize for anything I said that was mean-spirited--I like your work and know how difficult construction is (jeeez do I know that). Best.

There is a software called team viewer that allow any one to control the pc of another one , i suggest a winning player download the software and a rigge download the software then the riggie allow the good player to use his pc using (team viewer software) search it in google ,then challenge the winning player to win playing his doom switched account without fearing that poker stars close his account for multi account

This is incorrect? With saying that you have proven you are the most stupid person on the planet.

If you throw a coin ten times what can happen? You could toss a coin and get 8 times head and 2 times tail as result. This is a relation 80 to 20 percent.

Now if you toss that coin again but this time ten thousand times it is very unlikely that you will get 8000 times head and 2000 times tail as result.

The more you throw the more head and tail amount will come nearer at least it wont keep at 80 to 20 percent relation for sure.

In poker that means the more hands you play the more Winnings/losses line and EV line will come nearer.

You dont know something most poker players know about and then you talk about mathematical laws.

Explain how someone can multi-account without fearing Stars will close your account for multi-accounting. You should probably stop calling other people stupid.

Ocatop, you might need to sleep someday. Good for your health. I know youre short handed on site defenders, but come on now.

9 hours between posts can sure wear you out.

Cz pokerstars wont know that u are playing with someone's account using the team viewer software ,the software works this way that it will let someone use ur computer ,see ur desktop move ur mouse pointer open any file in ur computer (its like he hacked ur computer ) but its not cz u opened the door to him ,i ask u to watch a video of this software on youtube to understand how it works