Even though my check didn't bounce, it was in the batch of checks that did bounce. I just deposited it right away and probably barely did so in time. Despite that, FTP gave me $100 cash with no strings attached to cover any bank fees. In addition to that I received a $200 bonus. As far as I know the size of the bonuses are in some way related to the amount of the checks that were bouncing.

So anyway if your check actually did bounce, I'd be surprised if you didn't at least get the $100. If they haven't given it to you yet hopefully they still will. Just be patient though, the response from them likely won't come for several days. Please don't send dozens of e-mails like a lot of these other clowns and slow them down more.

Sorry mrcommonsense, the Epassporte example is not one that helps your position.

Epass specifically processed only POKER transfers. They would not do business with a site that allowed sports or casino betting. Yet they still pulled out under pressure (whether from the DOJ - as they said - or Visa, or both).

The banks/financial processors are reacting to DOJ pressure. They will not fund poker willingly because they do not want to fight the DOJ (even though the DOJ position with respect to online poker is indeed mostly bluff). This DOJ pressure will not stop until there is political change.

So either work for that political change, or play until the DOJ has eliminated all but the most difficult, costly and untrustworthy (overseas) payment processors from the game.

Skallagrim

not all of los angeles..=(

yeah i got the hunny but no bonus. must be related to check size as mine wasn't big at all.

don't worry, one e-mail and a lot of patience from me. paying hobby's are teh nuts. guys stessing out and losing sleep over $400 is just plain dumb.

I'll post updates as they come.

I made another check request last thurs. night, still today it is in the processing stage, it has never taken this long just to get a response. Is this normal with all the check issues they've been having or should i get on support to see what is going on?

Quick update....as suspected I couldn't request a check because I had requested one in the past week. Now that I'm a full 7 days from my last request, I was able to put in a request for a check. Seems based on some of the posts I'll probably have to wait for it to get approved, but that's fine. Comes with the territory these days.

It's more than hobby at this point for me but even so, I still try to keep enough funds on hand at home where they can be used in situations like this. It sucks but it's just a part of being responsible. No way am I going to allow bills to go unpaid because the money I'm depending on getting from the internets is late. I don't consider any scenario to be impossible. So there needs to be a backup plan if everything went south the way it did for people getting money frozen in Neteller a few years ago.

You entirely missed my point. You in fact were agreeing with mine as everything you said is true. That person earlier said the democrats had as much to do with UIGEA as the republicans which has led to all these problems. My point is the doj is the problem and not the UIGEA as they would be pressuring and busting groups regardless of it ever passing or not. Again BET ON SPORTS and Neteller were brought down independent of the UIGEA. My point is due to current federal and state laws all this turmoil would be happening no matter what so people need to stop focusing so much on the UIGEA. If it is removed tommorow nothing will change. The only way to solve all this is to legalize poker so you and I are essentially saying the same thing.

When did it start becoming a week between being able to withdraw? Wasnt it 24 hours?
I miss epassporte and having immediate access to my funds. They need to fix this crapola.
So, the withdrawal I made 3 weeks ago, was just put back in, and I had to withdraw it again on Friday when the money was put back, and now I have to wait til next Friday to withdraw again? This is horrible. I use this money to pay frickin bills, and now Im about to be in some trouble.

Why cant FTP lower the amount to do wire transfers? Is it too expensive or time consuming? Does it attract to much attention? They have zero goodwill right now and giving people that are delayed their money right away would be a huge step in the right direction.

Yea i would like to see this, even if they charge a slightly bigger fee, I would be ok with that cause i would get my funds within a few days

This just started this past week when the processor went down. It's temporary....I hope.

Ditto...

Don't worry sneaks... same thing happened to me and I just finally got approved.

Update:
Amount: $2k
Requested: 7/9
Approved: 7/9
Status: waiting

Amount: $1k
Requested: 7/12
Approved: 7/14 (54 hours)
Status: waiting


God I am hoping this money comes soon though. I will keep you all updated. But for now I am on stars for good I think, and can't wait for my first money gram cashout!

I am glad we (mostly) agree . My whole point in making a post in this thread was to get some of the righteous anger felt and displayed here directed at the real enemy, the current US government. If the US DOJ were not involved, FTP would not be having these payment problems (though they probably still wouldnt answer most emails ).

The only reason I said "mostly" agree is because I think it is wrong to underestimate the effect of the UIGEA on THE BANKS and other Financial Service providers. While it is true that the wire act has (so far) been the basis of all the DOJ's actual cases, it is the UIGEA that has the banks running scared (which is why their trade organization is actively opposing it).

To prove a wire act violation against a bank or other FSA (like neteller) the DOJ has to prove direct knowledge of illegal payments (like sportsbetting). They allegedly could do this with neteller, BUT NOT WITH THE BANKS THAT DID BUSINESS WITH neteller. Under the UIGEA, however, banks face direct penalties for not only dealing directly with sites, but also for dealing with other entities that make transfers to sites. So if you are planning to become the new neteller, you are going to have an almost impossible time finding a bank to handle that aspect of your business, and that is one big reason the sites are having so much difficulty finding reliable, cost-effective companies to make the transfers. And since on the other hand the UIGEA makes banks completely immune from liability for stopping a "lawful" transaction if they "think" it may be for "unlawful internet gambling" the banks and other FSAs have every incentive to not do business with anything remotely associated with online poker, and very little incentive (small profit) to conduct such business.

So again, if you want things to improve folks, try sending at least one letter to congress for every letter you send to FTP.

Skallagrim

I agree with everything you said but I still think we were screwed even if UIGEA was not passed. UIGEA certainly makes banks more paranoid about touching this industry but the Neteller bust pretty much tipped them over the edge of paranoia anyway. They want plausible deniability of not working directly with a gaming group ever since the Neteller bust and UIGEA just adds the exclamation mark to that desire.

It's been 7 days since my $2000 check bounced and 5 days since I first emailed FTP(I've only sent 3 emails not 50) and still no response. How is it some people are getting double-paid on top of bonuses but I get completely ignored. This is so frustrating. My account became overdrawn on top of returned check fees.

It's frustrating!! Frustrating! Frustrating! Frustrating. LOL. Sorry couldn't resist.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ldrp-mGqX1Y&feature=related

Always need humor at a bad time.

Hello Marvin,

Thank you for contacting Full Tilt Poker Support.

I am sorry to hear that your checks have not arrived.

Please note that since legislation concerning online gaming is still being clarified, checks from Full Tilt Poker will not carry any of our branding, which may make them difficult to discern.

According to our records, your checks for $5000 were sent to:

xxx Street #xx
San Francsico, CA 94xx

[02090365] mailed on June 23rd, check number 417206.
[0209DEF8] mailed on June 24th, check number 418636.
[020ACAF8] mailed on June 25th, check number 418905.
[020BA040] mailed on June 26th, check number 420437.

Regular United States Postal Service (USPS) delivery can take 15 business days, and it has beenbetween 12 and 15 business days since your checks were sent.

As delivery times vary, checks withdrawn from your Full Tilt Poker account may arrive in a different order than requested.

If you have not yet received these checks we can offer you a stop payment on them at this time. This process can take 1-3 business days to complete. Upon completion we would return the funds to your account and you could request new withdrawals at that time.

The issue that you have read on the forums was a technical issue related to one of our processors. This issue has now been resolved and does not affect any of your checks.

Thank you for your patience, and if you have any other questions, please feel free to contact us.

Regards,

Giselle
Check Team Lead
Full Tilt Poker Support

It takes 4 days to recieve a letter that is sent from NY to CA. Why would it take 15 business days to recieve a mailed check? Should I get a stop payment?

BTW: I sent them an email 9 days ago, GG FT support response times

What is the process if a check bounces? Who do i contact first and with what information?

I think they are clearly giving you the hint to stop those payments. Your check dates are in that BAD ZONE range where they are likely were never mailed by the "bad" processor. That is good however since they would have bounced anyway.

I strongly recommend you makes stops on all of them as this will likely get you your money much sooner. They will process them again and send them out through the good group.

EMAIL FTP not more then once and they will respond to you eventually. After this week I would figure most people will be taken care of.

just wondering.. maybe I'm just stupid when it comes to all the bank stuff, but for all the people frustrated with the whole checks bouncing thing... why didn't you just go to a bank thats not yours and just cash the check instead of depositing it into an account.. that is probably what I will do once my checks finally arrive

after this week people will be taken care of. common sense you must be lacking of it. there are people who have not received checks in a month and this is the magical week. and this is because?????? must know someone right? WJAT CHECK ARE U WAITING FOR?

I decided to test out the check option and took out 300 bucks of my iron man bonus via check:

approved: July 5
arrivial: not yet