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02-03-2011 , 05:41 PM
I am a little curious about this site, not because they show some live action on tv, but because it has gone under my radar for so long.

Is sky poker part of a network?.
Whats the storyo with rakeback, and signup affiliates?
Whats the traffic like?
I read the software is terrible.
Is it only open to uk?
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02-03-2011 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack0
I am a little curious about this site, not because they show some live action on tv, but because it has gone under my radar for so long.

Is sky poker part of a network?. Don't think so. They stand alone

Whats the storyo with rakeback, and signup affiliates? I think it's more like the Stars model, with rewards based on a loyalty scheme. But I think they do have a deposit bonus. Check their website.

Whats the traffic like? Very low above the nanostakes. Actually, pretty low at nanos too.

I read the software is terrible. I've read the same. Doubt it is designed for mass multitabling. I think you can either play in the web browser or in a downloadable client.

Is it only open to uk?No, anyone can play there (not sure about US players obv)
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Last edited by TeamTrousers; 02-03-2011 at 06:02 PM.
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02-03-2011 , 06:04 PM
Not part of any network
I do not get any rakeback there, don't think anyone else does either, but I might be wrong.
Good traffic
Software is not great. What I object to most is the fact that you cannot download your HH's to analyse. You get dc sometimes but then you do with many sites.
I believe it is UK-only since I never found anyone from abroad there.

I did very well when I first started there, but then suddenly it seemed like I could not win anything, in spite of playing the same way. So I took my money out and carried on playing but only freerolls to see if I could build a bankroll from nothing. Got nowhere for a couple of months but last week things seemed to come good and I got up to a hundred quid or so, most of which I cashed out.

One positive is that they sometimes televise your table on Sky TV (channel 865) and you can have experts analyse your hands.

I will keep playing there providing I can maintain a positive ROI. I am not going to put my own money in there though.
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02-03-2011 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamTrousers
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Thanks, just found out, they only accept players from the following Countries.

United Kingdom
Ireland
Bulgaria
Cyprus
Denmark
Finland
Gibraltar
Greece
Poland
Spain
Sweden

It seems they dont allow rakeback affiliates to operate. No HUDS seem to work on skypoker. Support dont even know what a HUD is. I know HEM doesnt support it.
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02-03-2011 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by wykh
One positive is that they sometimes televise your table on Sky TV (channel 865) and you can have experts analyse your hands.
Even better is the fact that quite a bit of the advice they broadcast, particularly for donkaments, is pretty lol. But hundreds of fish watching up and down the country follow that advice because it's been said by a lol-pro

Last edited by TeamTrousers; 02-03-2011 at 09:49 PM. Reason: maybe they do know better and are just deliberately giving out meh advice, which is cool with me as well
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02-04-2011 , 06:26 AM
Admittedly not all the advice is good, but it is often informative to find out what hole cards the other players were holding in situations where not everyone stayed in until showdown.
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02-04-2011 , 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack0

It seems they dont allow rakeback affiliates to operate. No HUDS seem to work on skypoker. Support dont even know what a HUD is. I know HEM doesnt support it.

They have "cash for points" which is like a scaled rakeback service link below.


https://www.skypoker.com/secure/poke...pokerrhc_c4pts
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02-04-2011 , 10:01 AM
Well,

I am trying the site now. It is pretty terrible. There are a number of problems I have had right away.

Took me 3 hours to get up and running on the site, had to send on passport after depositing.
There is no rakeback out there, I posted in a thread asking for rakeback and only got messages by affiliates offering me a "deal", the deal consisted of the exact same reward system every player gets.
So I signed up without rakeback, content with a bonus and the rewards system. The bonus never registered when I deposited and I have no been onto live chat twice, the problem is not fixed yet.
The software is very bad. I could actually live with the interface but they are missing some basic functionality which would be simple to implement and make the site much more user friendly. For example, you cannot choose your preferred seat, you must edit your seat position every time you sit at a new table. There is no autorebuy, you have manually rebuy. There are no personal avatars. Tables are a little too big.
Games seem very nitty so far, I sat on a few tables and it was all the same players sitting with me on each table. There are very few tables running. Right now there are 3 .50/1.00.
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02-04-2011 , 11:14 AM
Its quite busy and donk-tastic in the evenings UK time, as thats where the majority of the player base live.

The software is terrible frankly, and bad enough to prevent me from swimming with the fishes there. They have recently added a downloadable version, which at least reduces the number of crashes, but its still far too hard to work out whats going on if you play anything more than two tables.

My bigger concern is the security. Not only do they not have a Security Key feature like stars/ftp (which is reasonable actually as the size of the site is so small) they don't even have a proper password to let you log-in. Instead it is a 4-digit pin number which obviously is much easier to crack.
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02-04-2011 , 02:31 PM
Oh GOD.

Ive just been onto chat, 5 times now.
I am usually a calm and level headed person, but these people have me enraged. Every respone takes 10 minutes and every response is utter BS from some fool who has no idea whats going on. Im struggling to keep my head.
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02-04-2011 , 02:51 PM
I'm all for trying new sites and I've considered depositing there, but...

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Instead it is a 4-digit pin number
...this^^ is what caused me to stay away. The rest, like software and all, I can live with if the tables are super donkish. Not being able to store HH's is a big problem as well imo.
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03-22-2011 , 10:20 AM
Afternoon chaps.

Sorry for the delay in replying to this & any other Sky Poker related threads.

I was replying to them until a few months ago, but then the good peeps at 2 + 2 asked us to regularise our position - in effect, replying, as a Member of the team at SkyPoker.com, requires special clearance by 2 + 2, & quite right too.

All the details have now been sorted out, so I'm free to reply as appropriate, & I'll try & catch up on stuff on the next few days & weeks, to questions & comments related to Sky Poker on this, & other, threads.

Should be fun, too. Sort of.
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03-22-2011 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamTrousers
Even better is the fact that quite a bit of the advice they broadcast, particularly for donkaments, is pretty lol. But hundreds of fish watching up and down the country follow that advice because it's been said by a lol-pro
Just so we all get off on the right foot, that "lol-pro" is probably me, aka "tikay", aka "Tony Kendall".

Just shows, I may be a "lol-Pro", but I can get a bluff through.

I've pretty much done everything in poker, too - Live, Online, 7 different TV Shows, Chairman of APAT, own a decent share in a large European Poker Forum, (along with James Dempsey, FT Pro & WSOP bangle winna in 2010), da de da. I have a modest Live Database record, too. Very modest.

Shame that "done" & "made money" are different things, though I plan to make enough money to retire early......
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03-22-2011 , 10:54 AM
Please sort out your rewards system, cash for points (which is earned based on hands played at stakes) is a terrible idea.

Please promote Omaha, get it on the show, do special Points promos, you guys realise there is more rake in Omaha then NL Holdem right

PLEASE dont change the sotware, keeps the regs away
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03-22-2011 , 10:55 AM
^^
Not the most important issue in this thread Tony
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03-22-2011 , 10:58 AM
^^ True, maybe the password system needs changing, but what other issues apart from that???
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03-22-2011 , 11:13 AM
Sorry I meant the Sky Poker guy who didn't actually address anybody's concerns and just tried to prove he wasn't a lol-pro
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03-22-2011 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sky_Poker
Just so we all get off on the right foot, that "lol-pro" is probably me, aka "tikay", aka "Tony Kendall".

Just shows, I may be a "lol-Pro", but I can get a bluff through.

I've pretty much done everything in poker, too - Live, Online, 7 different TV Shows, Chairman of APAT, own a decent share in a large European Poker Forum, (along with James Dempsey, FT Pro & WSOP bangle winna in 2010), da de da. I have a modest Live Database record, too. Very modest.

Shame that "done" & "made money" are different things, though I plan to make enough money to retire early......
being the first person quoted by tikay

Actually, I was probably thinking of some of the others' advice tbh, not necessarily yours; can't remember names though, it's a while since I watched, and pretty much the only names I can actually remember are; you, the considerably more attractive Kara Scott (for obvious reasons), and also Norman Pace, who I mainly remember because his son Liam was in the same class at school as my little sister. I remember thinking it strange that a guy who I knew as a comedian twenty years ago was now turning up on a poker tv channel.

Don't get me wrong, I like that you are getting people into poker. The Sky customer base is absolutely ideal material for this imo, for a number of obvious reasons. I don't even mind if you broadcast good advice, because most people are simply not disciplined enough to stick to it, or they'll try it but apply it in the wrong place at the wrong time. It gives people a sense that they are doing the right thing, and will keep them coming back for more. But seriously, I do remember that some of the advice being broadcast was pretty ordinary for anyone who's actually serious about improving their game.

Anyway, enough on the advice bashing, because it's an issue which is negligibly small. I think it's great that Sky have finally got an official presence here on 2+2, and hopefully it will help make Sky Poker better for everyone.

That relies on constructive dialogue on both sides. One thing I'd like to say straight up is that it would be pretty good for the poker players if there were greater focus on promoting the poker part of Sky Casino to increase traffic at the tables. Moreso than the Sky Bet, Sky Vegas and Sky Bingo divisions, the poker relies much more on interactions with other players. Games of pure chance, such as roulette, work even if you're the only one on that spin, betting on sports is mainly about the sporting event, which will happen anyway, and bingo is, well, bingo, and if people want the human interaction aspect then they'll go to their local bingo hall for a live game. You're not competing directly against other bingo players, you're merely hoping to get lucky before they do.

But poker involves direct competition against other players, and the more players there are, the better the competition and the more appealing it becomes; but without varied competition the game will become stale.

For instance, right now there are only a half dozen full 6-max tables above 30NL. As for SNGs, well, other than a handful of Double or Nothings, which everyone knows are just riddled with collusion, there are no SNGs running above £2 at all. With all the millions of people who have Sky subscriptions in this country, having less than 1,000 seats filled, and most of them in nanostakes games, seems to me as if you're missing out on customers to me. Maybe it's the software, the user interface. Maybe it's the game selection you offer - for instance, so much of your offering is 6max and why do you not have more full ring offerings? Or maybe it's simply a lack of consumer awareness of the Sky Poker brand in the face of the competition, whose TV adverts are, on the whole, way better than yours imho.

Anyway, GL, and hope this works out
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03-22-2011 , 01:49 PM
ive tried skypoker a few times the quality of the players there is terrible and is definitely a profitable site, however when i last played there, there was hardly any action at 200nl+.

main reason i left was that you cant disable access to the casino (achilliesheal).
i actually found support to be helpfull whenever i dealt with them

sugguestion for your software dept Tikay would be to make your downloadable client better than the in-browser. currently theyre pretty much the same.
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03-22-2011 , 04:05 PM
Evening guys, lol-pro here again.

Thanks for the addendum questions, I am working tonight, but will reply to every one, at doubtless interminible length, tomorrow.

I won't dodge any questions, won't try to say that Sky Poker is better than 'Stars or Tilt, (obv), & I really don't care whether you deem me a lol-Pro or an out & out donk, that's up to you guys to decide, assuming it even matters. Channel 865 (Sky Poker TV) is there to help beginners, to "educate & entertain", & I reckon I'm competent to do that. Maybe.

I'm pretty miffed to be unfavourably compared to Kara in the looks department, though. I scrub up a treat, you know.

I'll answer all the stuff tomorrow, thanks for the questions, & I'm sorry I missed some today. It's a bit scary setting foot in 2 + 2, to be honest, but we're off & running now, let's do it.

Later.
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03-22-2011 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rocky1210
Please sort out your rewards system, cash for points (which is earned based on hands played at stakes) is a terrible idea.

Please promote Omaha, get it on the show, do special Points promos, you guys realise there is more rake in Omaha then NL Holdem right

PLEASE dont change the sotware, keeps the regs away
I read the other forum that tikay owns and I'm pretty sure he's said on there that Omaha can't be shown on TV as it just doesn't work with the equipment they use to show the hands.
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03-22-2011 , 05:49 PM
are you ever gonna get HEM working on your site ?
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03-22-2011 , 05:52 PM
Sky_poker: Today i rake ~2k$ month on anther site, but i'm willing to try another smaller site and have looked at Sky Poker. Can you give me 3 good reason to play on Sky instead of my other site.

Should i look for affilates to find a better deal then you can provide me directly from the site?

Also, how big (compared to the other sites) will you estimate Sky poker to be in 1 year and in 3 years from now? Top 5? top 10?

Thanks!
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03-23-2011 , 07:53 AM
Afternoon.

I'll try & pick up some of the questions now. Bear with me please, I won't be able to do all of them today.

Thanks.

There's a fair bit of disinformation on here, too, & I'll try to correct that. There's also some harsh truths, & I won't bother denying those.
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