This is quite disgusting...and I'm not even talking about the software. I have reread everything I can find that Bodog has put out there since the release of the software and they have swore up and down this isn't possible. They have lied to the entire poker playing community and more importantly, their customers! How can anyone play on this site anymore knowing they just don't care about you and your money and will say anything they have to in order to get it.

There is NO WAY someone didn't know how easy it would be to breach this...maybe THIS is why they don't want "sharps" around...not because they are good at poker but they are good at reasoning and realize how at risk they were and if anyone with the know how spent 3 hours (apparently) looking they could write a program that completely negates to that individuals favor the whole anonymous bs.

Bodog keeps talking about their new platform marking an era of "anonymous table poker", when in reality, the only thing it's doing is create a market for "De-Anonymity Software".

And you know, they can patch this up in another update, but right now, there's some 17 year old kid in a basement who is learning a script or code that will outsmart anything they can do. Fighting a battle against programmers is a futile and pointless battle... and basing a business model around this sort of battle will void their entire platform and push them into obscurity.

Thanks Bodog, for giving sharks an even bigger edge with the purchase of this new software. Talk about something blowing up in your face...(and it only took 3 hours).

I really doubt this. You think they knew someone could do it within hours, and were just hoping no one would post about it?

Hopefully Bodog will ban your ass for using and creating 3rd party software to cheat
and even worse encourage others to do the same

a dormant bodog shill account? lol 3 years for 1st post and it's this?

They didn't make that to cheat monkey, they made it to show bodog isn't being honest about it's software. It isn't anonymous and there are flaws and they are broadcasting user id's.

I have been in IT for a loooong time...you don't send something so simple to the client. There is no way that a competent programmer would do that on software of this magnitude where it puts at risk hundreds of thousands of dollars and do it without realizing its a risk.

I guess that goes back to the competence comment though doesn't it.

So you'd rather that they kept this secret? Or just have used it themselves quietly?

This is such an idiotic post.
The whole purpose of this exploit this is to let people know, "Hey, someone out there can be doing this to you...so check it out and be made aware of it so you don't get taken advantage of in the future".

This post makes even my most idiotic post I've ever written look like the writings of a genius.

I rarely bother to login as this forum is a bunch of us cry babies

now this is plain cheating thats all it is and to think the guys who created this is doing anyone a favour is ******ed

How are they cheating? Are you aware of them using it? And since Bodog doesn't forbid HUDs AFAIK, would it be cheating even if they were?

Hopefully a mod will ban tansania.

Thanks kyleb for this. Now is there anyone that could still argue in favor of playing on bodog?

In addition it will catch all botters and colluders as well as making the software run even more smoothly (not that they need to since it is already the industry leading software).

is it against the rules to see what information the client is sending/receiving? I don't think so. It's not cheating in the least, it has the potential to be used for hacking people's accounts but that's about it. Bodog is ******ed for sending people's user id's like this.

You shills are just so stupid!!! Nobody is gonna listen to some tard with one post. I'm surprised you were even acknowledged!!! GTFO

they don't forbid huds or tracking software, they just thought this would solve all their problems, and obviously as proven time and time again, they are idiots.

any word from jonas yet ?

To be fair, he was also against Deep Throat exposing Watergate.

Kyleb,

You should make a thread about this in NVG too, that will get the topic even more attention.

anticlimactic ..... in a sense.

I was expecting to see a table full of old BoDog usernames which would allow the owners of this PartyCrasher exploit to continue using old datamining sites/stats. However, I do understand that going forward, players info could be recorded and used to datamine with this exploit. Could Bodog negate this process by inserting a randomized number into the login, each login?

Overall, good work on finding this security flaw, lets hope Bodog takes serious measures to eliminate it...

sidenote: this just adds to the outcry for federal regulation, so that an oversight agency would perform all such security tests to protect players.

This could have been a golden opportunity to catch them in the act of using house players. Oh well.....

I dont think bodog added hacks is not allowed on our site as they though it was common sense but clearly they have to take action

and 2+2 now contribuate and encourage people to use hacks when bodog is trying to keep players Anonymous

even if we dont like the new software this is not the way forward

Nope, just sent question to him/Ed @ Bodog 15-20 minutes ago. Here is some of the questions, pertaining to this issue:

It's only a been a few days since the massive Bodog update, and already, someone has found a way to reveal the player ID's through a rather basic programming method (see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctd9SJz_igw;). Bodog, and Justin @ Bodog, stated, as a company, that it’s "impossible" to track or identify players on the site...this is obviously false. If you guys are pursuing the route of player anonymity as passionately as you claim, why was this exploit possible? Shouldn't player anonymity be your main concern, as a failure to do so will only result in an even greater edge for "sharks"? What's stopping "sharks" from purchasing software in the future that exploits vulnerabilities in this fashion? Doesn't this exploitation completely sabotage the visions behind the new business model and platform?


If Bodog couldn't protect player anonymity, and maintain an even playing field for their players, for more than 5 days, why should players trust you to maintain it in the long run?


It took this programmer under three hours to exploit your new software. Programmers are scripting software every day that jumps new hurdles, and a business model like yours rests almost entirely on the premise of being one step ahead of them. Do you feel that trying to stay above the programming curve is a futile endeavor? Do you fear that this update is only creating a market for “De-Anonymity” software? Is this a realistic and profitable battle to be fighting?


I tried to give detailed lead-up before the questions, as it helps prevent him from dodging them, and helps inform him of exactly where our concerns are stemming from. I also coupled 2-3 questions within each paragraph, to represent the concerns from all possible angles. I generally hate conducting interviews in this manner as it leaves no room for follow-up, thus forcing me to have to be painfully detailed in the original question(s). But, so be it... should hopefully be interesting nonetheless.

I don't know that 2+2 wants people to do that. I have seen threads moved from NVG to here since it fits Internet Gambling better.

Regardless, I'm not going to make the thread there. If someone else wants to do so and see if it sticks, that's fine by me. It would give it more exposure, I agree.

It's not as simple as randomizing the one-time login - this would cause a ton of changes in the code.

I think this just shows how bad Bodog programmers and management are.

Either they knew and are dumb, or they didn't know and are dumb.

Either way, they are dumb.