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12-01-2015 , 08:02 PM
so i am curious....

after the new changes... what poker site now has a better combination of rake / rakeback then PS? + free rolls
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12-01-2015 , 09:02 PM
I have on William Hill (ipoker) 50% rakeback. Regardless of how many you played
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12-01-2015 , 09:23 PM
^Some sites may offer better effective rake than stars will in 2016, but in the end stars is still way ahead any other poker site overall.

There's more than just rake to a poker site. There's the software, traffic, ease of use, customer support, etc.
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12-01-2015 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MindControl7
^Some sites may offer better effective rake than stars will in 2016, but in the end stars is still way ahead any other poker site overall.

There's more than just rake to a poker site. There's the software, traffic, ease of use, customer support, etc.
+1
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12-01-2015 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Pirate9999
I have on William Hill (ipoker) 50% rakeback. Regardless of how many you played
and this is available to all? where did you find this promotion?? All WH promotions I have seen require you to to participate in the 'Players Club' with rewards based upon your volume of play.

no flat 50% rakeback

and WH rake is among the highest is it not?
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12-01-2015 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 31Alpha
and this is available to all? where did you find this promotion?? All WH promotions I have seen require you to to participate in the 'Players Club' with rewards based upon your volume of play.

no flat 50% rakeback

and WH rake is among the highest is it not?
Maybe it's just SBR rakeback system (Source Based Rake) so it's not like old method what pokerstars and some other rooms using. That's different ofc
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12-01-2015 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SilkySpider
Maybe it's just SBR rakeback system (Source Based Rake) so it's not like old method what pokerstars and some other rooms using. That's different ofc
Maybe you should read the post again... pretty sure you will then note I am asking for specifics and not "maybe"
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12-02-2015 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 31Alpha
and this is available to all? where did you find this promotion?? All WH promotions I have seen require you to to participate in the 'Players Club' with rewards based upon your volume of play.

no flat 50% rakeback

and WH rake is among the highest is it not?
I get 65% rb, including rake race and the VIP program on Expekt Poker.

Coral you can get 70% easily, but not available to Aussies.
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12-02-2015 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by fionatang
I get 65% rb, including rake race and the VIP program on Expekt Poker.

Coral you can get 70% easily, but not available to Aussies.
lol .... and AGAIN... what is the RAKE in comparison?? freerolls?

telling rackback % means shat without the rest of the deals!
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12-02-2015 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 31Alpha
so i am curious....
after the new changes... what poker site now has a better combination of rake / rakeback then PS? + free rolls
If you play micros, then you should have switched to Unibet (if it's available in your country) about a year ago. Stars hasn't been the best place for micro grinders to build a bankroll for quite a long time, and it's going to have to make a lot of changes to fix things.
Rakeback isn't really an issue in the micros, but Unibet not only has lower rake and softer games than Stars, but also has better rewards for low volume/casual players. /shillmode
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12-02-2015 , 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg20
No, it's not. It's 50% higher. Real money cash games traffic, I mean.

EDIT: 20k seats already. LOLWTF? Guess it's pretty safe bet now that it'll best day in last 2 weeks and by that very fact for a long time.
Lies, damned lies and statistics.

To an extent it doesn't matter one jot that these first few days in December might be Stars best in the last few weeks, that is to be expected during the first few days of an innovative promotion such as this one, the point is how much higher would the numbers/rake have been had there not been a strike going on during this period. My guess is that they have raked a decent amount less than during a comparable promotion during the same period.
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12-02-2015 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by bhoylegend
Lies, damned lies and statistics.

To an extent it doesn't matter one jot that these first few days in December might be Stars best in the last few weeks, that is to be expected during the first few days of an innovative promotion such as this one, the point is how much higher would the numbers/rake have been had there not been a strike going on during this period. My guess is that they have raked a decent amount less than during a comparable promotion during the same period.
Someone that finally gets it, thank you.

People think that the extra micro recs playing because of the promotion proves the boycott isn't working yet they forget the thousands in rake being lost because of the boycott.
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12-02-2015 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
If you play micros, then you should have switched to Unibet (if it's available in your country) about a year ago. Stars hasn't been the best place for micro grinders to build a bankroll for quite a long time, and it's going to have to make a lot of changes to fix things.
Rakeback isn't really an issue in the micros, but Unibet not only has lower rake and softer games than Stars, but also has better rewards for low volume/casual players. /shillmode
That ain't shilling... that's calling it as it is.
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12-02-2015 , 09:01 AM
Sect7G for mod or a job running a poker company
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12-02-2015 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MindControl7
^Some sites may offer better effective rake than stars will in 2016, but in the end stars is still way ahead any other poker site overall.

There's more than just rake to a poker site. There's the software, traffic, ease of use, customer support, etc.
stars pays them what they withdraw, and without any further headaches and fear the owners run away with your bankroll

but that's not true for some poker sites , and when you sign up for a monster rakeback or bonus , you really cant have 100% confidence you get your roll when you'll want to
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12-02-2015 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Pirate9999
I have on William Hill (ipoker) 50% rakeback. Regardless of how many you played
No you ****ing dont .If youre a winning player rakeback you actually get is 25% .I have 60% flat rakeback and I get 30% after the changes they made months ago.

If you said this a year ago it would be true.
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12-02-2015 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by beatmydeuces
stars pays them what they withdraw, and without any further headaches and fear the owners run away with your bankroll

but that's not true for some poker sites , and when you sign up for a monster rakeback or bonus , you really cant have 100% confidence you get your roll when you'll want to
totally, look at cake for example...
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12-02-2015 , 09:54 PM
Cross-posting:

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DN can help the players, but unless/until he has a better understanding of how the current system works then what he can do for us is rather limited. The following short video message is directed towards Negreanu. It is nothing that hasn't been said before, and it only addresses the topic of "rewards." However it is such an important concept to understand and such an easy concept to understand... yet he still doesn't understand it.

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12-02-2015 , 10:05 PM
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Brilliant video, glad someone pointed out that his "Where do we find this money?" argument was utterly ridiculous.
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12-02-2015 , 10:21 PM
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Would be nice if you could actually understand a word in this video.
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12-03-2015 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bhoylegend
Lies, damned lies and statistics.

To an extent it doesn't matter one jot that these first few days in December might be Stars best in the last few weeks, that is to be expected during the first few days of an innovative promotion such as this one, the point is how much higher would the numbers/rake have been had there not been a strike going on during this period. My guess is that they have raked a decent amount less than during a comparable promotion during the same period.
Well said, emote spammer.
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12-03-2015 , 09:53 PM
Will there still be the platinumstar 2500 fpp satellite to the sunday million that takes place weekly? Of course it won't be fpp but it would be starscoins.


Since there is no more supernova quarter million freeroll, what about the plantinumstar 2500fpp or equivalent to sunday million?
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12-04-2015 , 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 31Alpha
lol .... and AGAIN... what is the RAKE in comparison?? freerolls?

telling rackback % means shat without the rest of the deals!
both rake and rakeback are higher, but with similar percentage, turns out pretty similar to stars in the end if u get a deal. i believe 40%+ flat rb deals don't exist anymore, those are SBR which means if u are a winning player the numbers get cut in half pretty much. i get 35% flat+promos, around 50% total. but the games/traffic are pretty bad

edit: it's similar only if you are supernova on stars. if you are lower, then ipoker rake/rb will be better

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Originally Posted by MindControl7
^Some sites may offer better effective rake than stars will in 2016, but in the end stars is still way ahead any other poker site overall.

There's more than just rake to a poker site. There's the software, traffic, ease of use, customer support, etc.
that's because people underestimate how much they actually pay in rake, here's what a 0.5bb/100 graph would look like if there was no rake (yellow line=100% rakeback). yeah customer support and ease of use is all very nice...


Last edited by Mike Haven; 12-04-2015 at 01:15 PM. Reason: 3 posts merged
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12-04-2015 , 05:22 PM
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while I may understand platinum players, I really don't get why players from gold status and below are joining the strike.

Anyone can explain it please?
It's not all about self. For me it's about standing shoulder to shoulder with other players and making a stand. The changes won't affect me too much but they affect players I have huge respect for and every little helps.
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12-04-2015 , 08:49 PM
its fun though how 90% of all players that are complain here arent affected/ arent playing on pokerstars ( myself included )
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