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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
In a handful of days, you and the rest of the 50% would lose it all back anyway, as rakes would rise heavily to compensate the dealers, who clearly wouldn't be interested in having their salaries drastically reduced.
Yeah, that was my point. If the system's about to undergo an immense shift, it's not my responsibility to be one of the last holdouts playing under the old set of rules. That would make me one of the suckers paying the higher rake and tipping too.
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
I guess people on m end get satisfaction out of enjoying ourselves and making others feel better without constantly worrying about winrates. $1 on $300 in 1/2 NL wouldn't make me feel good about myself.
Then you should tip enough to make you feel OK about yourself, perhaps enough to make you feel as though you're playing your part to help dealers earn a decent living. I tip enough to make me feel that way.
As you well know, winning one $300 pot per night doesn't mean my EV is $300 per session, and it only costs the dealer a little more effort than pushing a $9 five-way limped pot, certainly not 30x as much. (I tip $1 for those too, at present. If i start tippng more on $300 then i will tip less for $9. Seems like the net effect would be to increase variance for the dealers.)
Now that i'm playing more $2-5 and $15/30, i'll tip one or two more for a $400-500ish pot.
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Do you guys follow the same principles when you're out at the bar, restaurant, hair cut place, etc etc etc? Keep in mind there that you're in real life, not on 2p2, and you can't cite winrates as an excuse,...
So except for the fact that those situations are nothing like poker, do i treat them exactly like poker? Huh?
On occasion i'll tip a few extra bucks to the janitorial staff. I figure they work as hard as the dealers (which is to say, pretty damned hard) but get less recognition. I don't take dealers for granted, but i figure $30 / hour of active work balanced by $2/hour of sitting there spading decks waiting for games to start is probably reasonable compensation.
I should have considered an extra quarterly bonus for dealers i considered good when i played where they can keep their own tips. In Michigan, i might still do that but it won't be as much because it can't be targeted.
Last edited by AKQJ10; 05-31-2011 at 11:59 PM.