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06-15-2012 , 01:32 AM

#551

lawdude

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Great job by Viffer owning Dwan in tonight's episode. First, he shoved with a flush draw when Dwan had raised and bet a scare card on the turn with an OESD. Then he snap-called a bluff with JJ with an ace on board.

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06-15-2012 , 02:06 AM

#552

loveminuszero

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When I saw two new episodes on pokercast I

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06-15-2012 , 06:15 AM

#553

omnishakira

High Troller

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 9,732

why do they talk about laak

he's annoying enough when he's there

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06-15-2012 , 06:30 AM

#554

ibelieveyouoweme$80k

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this is awful ... if you have to go to the bathroom, go and hurry back. eat before the show. or eat at the table.

3-handed? ivey has been gone for two full episodes it seems.

definitely a little disappointed, but it's not like they can improve the next episode.

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06-15-2012 , 09:31 AM

#555

LOL POT-ODDS

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oppenheim plays pretty bad and comes across as quite the douche..

dwan's face when he hero called him was just too golden tho

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06-15-2012 , 11:46 AM

#556

Erref Mecul

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06-15-2012 , 12:03 PM

#557

High Time John

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It was refreshing to see that even the best players in the world can make mistakes.

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06-15-2012 , 01:24 PM

#558

masaraksh

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[x] Oppenheim calls

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06-15-2012 , 01:54 PM

#559

djanhalen

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I just watched 2 episodes, not sure why everyone is saying that Oppenheim plays notoriously bad. I thought he played a few hands really well and outplayed his opponents.
Not sure about his attitude at the table though.

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06-15-2012 , 03:52 PM

#560

Jersey's Finest

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Best part from last night's episode was Oppenheim's face when he saw Patrik had a 3 after calling the $31,000 on the river

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06-15-2012 , 06:31 PM

#561

Daniel Ocean

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Wish Ivey would have just gave someone else his seat and left.

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06-15-2012 , 07:27 PM

#562

loveminuszero

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awesome, thanks!

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06-15-2012 , 07:53 PM

#563

LOL POT-ODDS

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i swear oppenheim just 3 barrels every hand he's in

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06-15-2012 , 09:47 PM

#564

springspeed

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Oppenheim played really really good but watching him tilts the living **** out of me. You have 10-9 suited from the BB. You are going to call. You aren't going to raise. You aren't going to fold, you were never considering those options.. WHY ARE YOU SITTING THERE FOR 20 SECONDS THINKING? He takes soooo long on stuff I know he's made up his decision about. Annoys me. Oh and then of course the flop comes 5-4-4 and he sits there for 45 seconds before folding.

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06-15-2012 , 10:00 PM

#565

bewilderedman

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 255

interesting spot with tom dwan / oppenheim week 2 episode 3

dwan 99
oppy QJ

board 10,3,7,8.9 no flush

dwan check calls flop
oppy checks back turn
dwan leads river $10,000 into $16,000

obviosuly this is not a value bet,you would think
Jx 6x is within range oppy would check back turn with

is he repping a jack trying to get a six to fold, oppy would not fold a 6 there
especially after the hero call on the last board that had 4 to a straight

but is he using that last hand to try and level him

would love to know what he was thinking

comments anyone

Last edited by bewilderedman; 06-15-2012 at 10:09 PM.

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06-15-2012 , 10:35 PM

#566

loveminuszero

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No way for us to know enough about Oppenheim's game after only having seen such a small number of hands, AFAIK he hasn't played any other televised cash games so it's pretty impossible to say. Even though Oppenheim is a limit player I'm sure he has played some NLHE as part of the rotation in Bobby's Room vs Dwan so there is surely a decent amount of history that we don't know of

In a vacuum it seems pretty bad of course but as viewers we have no way of figuring out how frequently he bluffs the river based on the sample size we've observed

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06-15-2012 , 10:53 PM

#567

bewilderedman

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In a vacuum it seems pretty bad of course but as viewers we have no way of figuring out how frequently he bluffs the river based on the sample size we've observed

are you on about dwan or oppenheim here,you started of talking about oppenheim but my post was about dwan leading the river

if you are talking about oppenheim,you think that dwan was betting the river to induce a bluff
if you are on about dwan he beats all one pair hands that check back the turn so why not just check call
and keep bluffs in oppys range

oppy played in the 2011 aussie millions cash game by the way

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06-15-2012 , 11:00 PM

#568

stonesfcr

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Originally Posted by Twingoo

more episodes

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http://www.*************/1939-poker-after-dark-s07e76

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06-16-2012 , 12:05 AM

#569

catch thirtythree

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Thought dwan's 74hh vs oppenheim's 9Thh was the most interesting hand. I'm really shocked that tom didn't either fold the flop or shove the river when david's range for limp/calling pre-flop with eli behind him and then donking the flop is mostly comprised of draws and has practically no strong made hands

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06-16-2012 , 12:12 AM

#570

ibelieveyouoweme$80k

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Originally Posted by catch thirtythree

easy when you see the cards

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06-16-2012 , 12:14 AM

#571

catch thirtythree

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You don't even have to see the cards to figure that out. What does oppy have there that's a strong made hand that limp/called knowing that eli is coming along too that can 3 barrel that board for value?

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06-16-2012 , 12:48 AM

#572

KiingsFull

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I have to agree with some posters...PAD kind of sucked, not the cash games, but all of the SnG;s really lacked any zing...lpretty boring actually.

but I am also very SICK of watching reruns of Highstakes all seasons. I have prob watched every episode 4 times, esp the Jamie Gold donkathons....

anwyay...

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06-16-2012 , 02:13 AM

#573

terp

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Originally Posted by bewilderedman

actually it is obviously a valuebet. to start to understand why, consider how difficult it would be to get someone to fold 6x+ for those odds when calling=showdown.

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06-16-2012 , 02:15 AM

#574

otter

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This weeks cash games and actually last week too weren't very interesting. And I guess ivey found a hot craps table.

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06-16-2012 , 09:41 AM

#575

masaraksh

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 5,250

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Originally Posted by bewilderedman

interesting spot with tom dwan / oppenheim week 2 episode 3

dwan 99
oppy QJ

board 10,3,7,8.9 no flush

dwan check calls flop
oppy checks back turn
dwan leads river $10,000 into $16,000

obviosuly this is not a value bet,you would think
Jx 6x is within range oppy would check back turn with

is he repping a jack trying to get a six to fold, oppy would not fold a 6 there
especially after the hero call on the last board that had 4 to a straight

but is he using that last hand to try and level him

would love to know what he was thinking

comments anyone

lmao.

ldo its a valuebet

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