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Playing 2(0) Questions with security just to enter casino? Playing 2(0) Questions with security just to enter casino?

05-26-2014 , 03:58 PM
Folks,

Recently on a trip to a local casino, security decided they wanted to play 20 Questions with me regarding my ID just to enter the establishment. They've been doing this for a while, the best I can remember, and I decided I'm no longer playing this game and told them we can get a supervisor involved but I'm not answering questions. Supervisor wondered why I had an attitude but let me in.

What is my play here for the future? I'm not playing their stupid games. Is there an acceptable form of ID with very little information on it? Do I just escalate to a supervisor every time?

My photo ID is an accurate portrayal of me and came up on the computer when scanned so it's not an issue of being fake. It's fairly obvious it's real.
05-26-2014 , 04:10 PM
I think it would be reasonable to answer 1 or 2 questions, after that, I'm not sure what I would do.
05-26-2014 , 04:20 PM
Be happy they aren't asking you for your AARP card for a senior's discount.

"20" questions? Exactly how many and what type?

And remember, it is their job. If some underage smartass with a fake ID gets by them, they can lose it. So between their salary and your inconvenience, they opt for keeping their job.
05-26-2014 , 05:05 PM
Non-standard ID? Yeah, a couple of questions would get annoying each time, but I hope I'd be understanding enough to expect it and deal with it, knowing what was at stake for them.
05-26-2014 , 05:07 PM
You clearly made it a point not to tell us what the exact questions were. My guess is that they aren't all that intrusive or offensive.
05-26-2014 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkey Lips
Folks,

Recently on a trip to a local casino, security decided they wanted to play 20 Questions with me regarding my ID just to enter the establishment. They've been doing this for a while, the best I can remember, and I decided I'm no longer playing this game and told them we can get a supervisor involved but I'm not answering questions. Supervisor wondered why I had an attitude but let me in.

What is my play here for the future? I'm not playing their stupid games. Is there an acceptable form of ID with very little information on it? Do I just escalate to a supervisor every time?

My photo ID is an accurate portrayal of me and came up on the computer when scanned so it's not an issue of being fake. It's fairly obvious it's real.
If you don't want to play 20 questions use an ID that won't get questioned.

If you don't want to play 20 questions and keep whatever ID this is, escalate to a supervisor each time.

If you don't want to play 20 questions, keep this ID, and not escalate it to a supervisor each time go to a different casino that might not question the ID.

You want to play in their casino, so you have to conform to their rules.
05-26-2014 , 05:20 PM
I really want to know the ID type and the questions asked.
05-26-2014 , 05:24 PM
If you don't answer their questions, they don't have to let you in. Pretty simple.

What are they asking?

I can imagine that there's some non-standard IDs that can cause confusion. When I moved to WA and tried to use a BC license as ID, I got denied beer once, and faced more q
Questions at casinos and bars. Same when I used a passport. I had a friend who was 21 and still had a vertical ID card (valid until he turned 22), that led to many debates with restaurant staff.
05-26-2014 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by OneCrazyDuck
If you don't answer their questions, they don't have to let you in. Pretty simple.
Sure they do. If someone shows a valid legal ID, you're in.

I would politely ask for a manager every time.
05-26-2014 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pfapfap
I really want to know the ID type and the questions asked.
In state drivers license and they ask date of birth and address. My response is that it is on the ID and that wasn't good enough to enter. Supervisor let me in and I didn't have to answer the questions.

I guess if you have a fake ID , memorize the birthdate and address and you're good to go.
05-26-2014 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jigsaw
Sure they do. If someone shows a valid legal ID, you're in.

I would politely ask for a manager every time.
Thanks for the advice. And I didn't answer their questions and they let me in, it seems to be some sort of stupid game.

Then the supervisor asked if I lived at the address that is on the ID....what if I didn't? That's none of their concern. They aren't LEOs.

The ID is valid so let me in without hassle is my issue.
05-26-2014 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkey Lips
In state drivers license and they ask date of birth and address. My response is that it is on the ID and that wasn't good enough to enter. Supervisor let me in and I didn't have to answer the questions.

I guess if you have a fake ID , memorize the birthdate and address and you're good to go.
Alright, you're just being a jerk then. Those questions are standard. They want to know its your ID. Take 10 seconds, answer, and you'd've been in.
05-26-2014 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkey Lips
The ID is valid so let me in without hassle is my issue.
How exactly do security people determine whether an ID is valid or not? By asking questions to see if the holder knows the info on the ID? Or do you just expect them to let everyone who maybe looks under 21 and has a drivers license to go in no questions asked, since, you know, it's impossible to have a fake ID.

So 20 questions turned into 2, and you were a jerk.
05-26-2014 , 06:56 PM
The trick is to not look at the security guy and walk in like you own the place.
05-26-2014 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkey Lips

What is my play here for the future? I'm not playing their stupid games. Is there an acceptable form of ID with very little information on it? Do I just escalate to a supervisor every time?
I'm curious what kind of ID you're talking about that has "very little information" on it.

Acceptable ID is: State issued Driver's License or ID card. Passport. US Military ID. Must be valid (ie not expired.)

That's it. Those are legally acceptable IDs. If someone tries to come into my club and doesn't have one of those, they're running the risk of us sending them home. Now, we pretty much only card people who are under 30, but even a 70 year-old has a responsibility to carry ID, and if they win a large prize (>$5000) they will not be paid out until they provide us with their ID.
05-26-2014 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by OneCrazyDuck
Alright, you're just being a jerk then. Those questions are standard. They want to know its your ID. Take 10 seconds, answer, and you'd've been in.
They scan the barcode on the back of the license and the information comes up. It seems like it would be difficult to forge that.

Again, it is just so silly. So if someone has a fake all they have to do is memorize the address and DOB...
05-26-2014 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by browser2920
How exactly do security people determine whether an ID is valid or not? By asking questions to see if the holder knows the info on the ID? Or do you just expect them to let everyone who maybe looks under 21 and has a drivers license to go in no questions asked, since, you know, it's impossible to have a fake ID.

So 20 questions turned into 2, and you were a jerk.
I don't have to answer any questions, and at the same time I understand they don't have to let me in. They decided my business was more valuable than their stupid questions I guess.
05-26-2014 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by allin4flush
I'm curious what kind of ID you're talking about that has "very little information" on it.

Acceptable ID is: State issued Driver's License or ID card. Passport. US Military ID. Must be valid (ie not expired.)
Military ID doesn't have birthdate or address or anything so I'm shocked a casino would accept that. (Edit: nevermind, apparently birthdate is on the back) That's what I'm talking about in terms of an ID that has very little information on it.

My passport only has my birthdate (no address) so maybe I'll try that next time and only have to state my birthdate.

Last edited by Donkey Lips; 05-26-2014 at 07:36 PM.
05-26-2014 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkey Lips
They scan the barcode on the back of the license and the information comes up. It seems like it would be difficult to forge that.

Again, it is just so silly. So if someone has a fake all they have to do is memorize the address and DOB...
Just because the license is valid doesn't mean its yours. And you may feel the picture makes it obvious ..... but we all know someone who used their older siblings ID because they looked alot a like.

So they look at the license they say well its probably him, but let me just be sure. They ask a question ..... yeah if you were using your brothers ID you would likely know his birthday ..... but you also just might hesitate, your voice might sound unsure ..... you know you might give off a tell.

I get it. Its annoying to be IDed. And if you think its annoying now .... guess what its even more annoying when your obviously in your forties and you get asked because its policy to ask everyone for ID.

But it really isn't that big a deal.
05-26-2014 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkey Lips
I don't have to answer any questions, and at the same time I understand they don't have to let me in. They decided my business was more valuable than their stupid questions I guess.
But instead you had time to say you wouldn't answer, explain it was on your card, wait for a manager, and tell them the same?

And yes, if someone has a fake, they should memorize that info. But people sometimes aren't that bright.

They may also be asking if you appeared intoxicated, to see if they should deny entry.
05-26-2014 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkey Lips
I don't have to answer any questions, and at the same time I understand they don't have to let me in. They decided my business was more valuable than their stupid questions I guess.
You sound very young. I humbly recommend you spend more time enjoying your youth and less time getting worked up over the principle of things that don't matter.
05-26-2014 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AngusThermopyle
Be happy they aren't asking you for your AARP card for a senior's discount.
This!

05-26-2014 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkey Lips
In state drivers license and they ask date of birth and address. My response is that it is on the ID and that wasn't good enough to enter. Supervisor let me in and I didn't have to answer the questions.

I guess if you have a fake ID , memorize the birthdate and address and you're good to go.
That's the key, if you have a fake ID or are using someone else's you better know all the details.

And not answering the questions that they already have the information for is just nonsense. If you get the security person who's having a bad day, you won't be playing as they'll send you on your way. As many others have said, the "2(0) questions" are standard. Get over it.
05-26-2014 , 09:13 PM
my local casino has spend a lot of money on fines form the state for letting under age guests slip through the cracks. They have a lot to risk if they keep getting caught with teenagers gambling in the casino.

About a week ago I was walking in behind a group of older women into the casino, and they stopped one of them and asked her for her ID. She must have looked about 50 and her friends couldn't believe it (I'm sure they were probably all jealous).

If your picture looks a little questionable, maybe you look different today, just answer your address and date of birth questions as soon as they ask you because if you hesitate (or argue) it's only gona look bad for you.
05-26-2014 , 09:50 PM
OP you asked what your play is here. Your play is to suck it up or go somewhere else. Do you think they're going to issue a special message with your picture on it to all security personnel, requiring they ask this person fewer questions even though he looks 15, just to keep your business?
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