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View Poll Results: Who Will Be The Biggest Winner?
Eli Elezra
7 2.47%
Patrik Antonius
52 18.37%
Alan Meltzer
26 9.19%
Gabe Kaplan
27 9.54%
David Peat
40 14.13%
Tom Dwan
131 46.29%

10-16-2010 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by enken90
I love that eli somehow thinks he's a better player than dwan. Eli has every trait of a fish and he should know it.
When did Eli ever state that he thinks he's a better player than Dwan?
Eli stated on that very broadcast that he's always made out look like a donkey.
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10-16-2010 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by enken90
his comeback here was nothing short of incredible. he's an amazing NLHE player, I think Ivey might be the only player who is at the same level/slightly better.

I love that eli somehow thinks he's a better player than dwan. Eli has every trait of a fish and he should know it.
I know right. I couldn't believe that Eli was saying that stuff on the round-table about durrrr being a luckbox and wanting to play against him all day long.

I mean wtf? I actually thought Eli realised he wasn't the best player at the table but simply could afford to play and liked the competition/ wanted to improve etc.

I loved it when durrrr told him "I had T High". Pure gold.
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10-16-2010 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LOLNHDONKWP
When did Eli ever state that he thinks he's a better player than Dwan?
Eli stated on that very broadcast that he's always made out look like a donkey.
He didn't literally say "I'm better than Dwan" though he did imply that durrrr is lucky, that his luck will run out and that he wants to play with him every day until the end of time (which is something you would say about a fish in your game).
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10-16-2010 , 09:38 PM
How much did Gabe finish up at the end of it?
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10-16-2010 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fimman
zigmond
Ziigmund ended up down about 100k overall.
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10-16-2010 , 10:15 PM
Eli just mumbles sarcastic stuff in poor english, it can be interpreted many ways.
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10-17-2010 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by LOLNHDONKWP
When did Eli ever state that he thinks he's a better player than Dwan?
Eli stated on that very broadcast that he's always made out look like a donkey.
"I'd love to have him in my game every day" pretty much implies he thinks he's better.

I used to like Eli till watching this game. Think he's a bit of a tit now for all his comments. Also saying during a hand that he folded the last queen may or may not have been an accident but still adds to the fact he is a tit.
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10-17-2010 , 12:04 AM
I'm not a durrr fan per se but gotta give it to him, the way he came back from a ~1000bb hole. I love how he totally disregards any hand charts and comes up with ATC in almost any spot. Pulled it off pretty well in HSP and really crushed here in a short handed game.

Sorta disappointed in Viff but I understand every player has good and bad days. Could've made more of an effort but getting stuck earlyish didn't exactly encourage. Still a staggering difference to his HSP game (same stakes IIRC) not to mention the PP big game (that was a mickey mouse game compared to this though).

Impressed and surprised by Gabe. Gotta wonder if he had 100% of himself but wp regardless. As for other players, pretty mehhh... Antonius pretty nitty and considering his background kinda wallflowerish performance IYAM, albeit that's about standard for him on all previous televised cash games. Meltzer did a fine enough job.

The game needs some fearless talented young blood (or Farha!) to mess with durrrr. Would be sooo sweet to see isildur in that game. While he's first and foremost a HU player, I think (if he's VB) he's shown he can dominate NL games with any amount of players. Maybe they get Jungleman aboard soon. Dropping the stakes to even 200/400+A might do good for the game, as scared money isn't usually entertaining.
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10-17-2010 , 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Redux
The game needs some fearless talented young blood (or Farha!) to mess with durrrr. Would be sooo sweet to see isildur in that game. While he's first and foremost a HU player, I think (if he's VB) he's shown he can dominate NL games with any amount of players. Maybe they get Jungleman aboard soon. Dropping the stakes to even 200/400+A might do good for the game, as scared money isn't usually entertaining.
Yes they definitely need some young internet players to rival durrrr. If they did drop the stakes I'd like to see LuvtheWNBA play.
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10-17-2010 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CliffLee
Yes they definitely need some young internet players to rival durrrr. If they did drop the stakes I'd like to see LuvtheWNBA play.
Not sure why they need to drop the stakes for Ike, he just played 2-4 with straddles on the big game and will have no problem selling action at 3-6 if it's somehow too big for him.
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10-17-2010 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Alpha Fish
Not sure why they need to drop the stakes for Ike, he just played 2-4 with straddles on the big game and will have no problem selling action at 3-6 if it's somehow too big for him.
To me Ike seemed a little uncomfortable with the stakes on the big game, which is understandable as I believe he's mainly a 25/50 player who plays some 50/100. Also, it's basically 6/12 on PAD with straddles, plus they all play deep.
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10-17-2010 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by coolnout
o well was a good 2 weeks of new cash game shows. now PAD stays in reruns til December.
ewwww Week of December 13 - NEW IN HD (Charity In Mind)
Phil Gordon, Chris Ferguson, Jennifer Harman, Howard Lederer, Andy Bloch, Annie Duke
ewww

go from this great cash game to that
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10-17-2010 , 01:13 AM
How the hell can Eli fold??? So there are 2 queens of the board so Eli automatically thinks has a a queen when he bets?

Does he really believe durrr will check an Ace behind, or any hand for that matter. What a fish, he wouldn't fold aces here I'm telling you, so why is he folding 99??

Or others weak ass players like Laak, who is nice and everything, but why does he even play durrrr? He'll only play with AA or KK and even then when durrr bluffs Laak will be like "OMG i fold he must have 2 pair" and complain he hasn't won a hand against him in 2 years lol wtf what a ******

ALL OF THIS WHEN THEY'VE SEEN HIM DO IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN

durrr would own me when he rivers a set against my aces, but I wouldn't fold every hand to him like a ******, thinking he has a monster everytime, watch on tv he bluffed every hand, then do it again the next time


viffer had 1 or 2 bad plays but mostly ran bad, just stating the obvious, but didn't see anybody say it
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10-17-2010 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Funeral Frog
How the hell can Eli fold??? So there are 2 queens of the board so Eli automatically thinks has a a queen when he bets?

Does he really believe durrr will check an Ace behind, or any hand for that matter. What a fish, he wouldn't fold aces here I'm telling you, so why is he folding 99??

Or others weak ass players like Laak, who is nice and everything, but why does he even play durrrr? He'll only play with AA or KK and even then when durrr bluffs Laak will be like "OMG i fold he must have 2 pair" and complain he hasn't won a hand against him in 2 years lol wtf what a ******

ALL OF THIS WHEN THEY'VE SEEN HIM DO IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN

durrr would own me when he rivers a set against my aces, but I wouldn't fold every hand to him like a ******, thinking he has a monster everytime, watch on tv he bluffed every hand, then do it again the next time


viffer had 1 or 2 bad plays but mostly ran bad, just stating the obvious, but didn't see anybody say it

Sure.
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10-17-2010 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Kroesial
Wtf I was 100 % sure Eli was going to call with his nines, don't really understand why he folded anyway. Imo it was not a very good bluff, he either has a queen or he doesn't, very unlikely he does, and since he is Dwan I would have instasnapcalled with nines there if I had that kind of money. Dwan always gets that look on his face when he starts bluffing, you can see that before the turn he was hardly interested in the hand, but after Eli bets on the turn, he has that Im gonna bluff you-face, cant believe Eli did not notice that.
Sure.
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10-17-2010 , 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CHENGPOKER
lol what do u play 2NL?
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Originally Posted by mrTruli
Seriously, go fk your self if you aren't going to give a constructive answer. And to answer your question I am a winning reg at nl400, douche.
Love this exchange, especially since CHENGPOKER is some 20 year old 25NL douchebag. GG mrTruli.
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10-17-2010 , 02:14 AM
Its in a way epic that he came back and won all the money he had lost. I have to admit it i would have thought it was impossible, he was stuck what 660k lol. I felt little bad for Antonius he really doesnt run well in these live cash games.
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10-17-2010 , 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by jumboAL
Sure.
the tough part about this is that dwan is one of the few players that can credibly rep a 3 in that situation, which makes the call more difficult
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10-17-2010 , 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by CliffLee
I know right. I couldn't believe that Eli was saying that stuff on the round-table about durrrr being a luckbox and wanting to play against him all day long.

I mean wtf? I actually thought Eli realised he wasn't the best player at the table but simply could afford to play and liked the competition/ wanted to improve etc.
wow, some of you guys have a realllly bad sarcasm detector. Eli was smirking the whole time he was talking, he was obviously trying to be funny. He obviously knows Durr is a far superior player, he was leveling and apparently several guys in here bit lolll.
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10-17-2010 , 02:52 AM
RE: Eli's fold, not surprising imo - really Eli couldn't beat anything but a double float-turned bluff with Ax or xx clubs. Besides having a Q or 3, Durr is sick enough to value bet there with JJ TT and try to value own Eli's ass. It also really doesn't look like a spot Eli will check fold, so I think Durr leveled him basically into thinking his range was far weighted to Qx, 3x, TT+ instead of random double floats.
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10-17-2010 , 04:04 AM
gz patrik said in the director's cut. i wasn't good enough to fold a set there today.
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10-17-2010 , 06:02 AM
As soon as Dwan hit that K on the turn it was pretty clear he was going to get even. Fair play to him, he played brilliant for the game he was in. I would have been interested to see his continued line in the KK v 10's hand if the K doesn't come on the turn. It looked a little like he suspected something was up but I guess we'll never know. He still didn't think Patrik had a set at the end so Dwan probably didn't think Patrik was capable of laying down a set there.

I agree with what people have said about getting Dwan in a lineup where people are going to play back at him. Dwan just controlled the game by making it 8k when someone made it 2k. Making it 5k when someone limped in. Making it 11k when someone made it 4k. The game became really uncomfortable in my opinion when Gabe, Laak and Viffer just didn't want to play a huge pot against Dwan because he really is not giving up, ever.

How many people are really going to sit in that game with Dwan? All of the online wizards don't seem crazy about the TV cash games. I doubt it's plus EV for them to come and sit down with Dwan, Ivey and Patrik on TV.

Shame because some of the online players have made a really good transition to the TV cash games but others like the cardplayers guy's haven't really come forward as much as I'd expected.

The Big Guns cash game was the only real lineup that would happily play with Dwan at any chance with the exception of Howard.
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10-17-2010 , 06:35 AM
Missed the end.. someone please tell me how much Meltzer was up at end of 2nd week.. ty

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10-17-2010 , 06:47 AM
winner, ainec

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10-17-2010 , 10:34 AM
i liked the commentary between gabe and dwan on the 76s ak hand.

gabe said he wanted to shove all-in on the river and he would have if it was earlier in the session.
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