+1

Plus he may have meant he could catch a bluff. You are way out of line here.

Said tonight "It's not collusion, I was only telling him he needed to call me" (after he leaned over and said something to his yet to act neighbor).

The shocking part is that you are proud to share this humiliating behavior on the forum. I hope you never share this story with anyone in person because they will probably either tell you off then and there or simply walk away from you...forever.

Seriously, you must have been super drunk (which brought out your true self) or there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with you.

This is exactly how most of us feel reading this....
If it's my game, David definitely gets invited back.... You? Probably not.

this definitely justifies throwing your drink in BB's face JFC

You may have mistook my tone when talking to David after that hand, so I'll clarify...
I was not shouting at him or using a derogatory tone. When he said that he was trying to bluff by calling there my reaction was more "REALLY?" that "YOU ******* IDIOT!"
After the cards were out for the next hand, I reexplained the concept of bluffing to him (the part about the whole point being to get a better hand to fold) and the game continued on. We're all friends at this game playing for $5 and there's no shortage of good-natured ripping on our fellow players. Everyone laughed and every hand that David called for the rest of the night someone said "Oh, he's bluffing again"

side note- David has since been banned from our game for stealing things (like my gf's CC info) from my house and suspicion of theft (video games/electronics) from the house we hold the game in.

I've seen this happen and the table will just nod while the guy scooping the pot will be all like "My bluff range is huge there, you have to make that call." Some people like the fish to stay fishy.

was playing 1-2 PLO at the vic in london, board ran 8x8x4x 8x Jx
a 25-28ish looking guy ripped sunglasses etc u know the type the reaks of douchebaggery
and a 20ish looking guy, hoody headphone etc, u know the silent internet warrior type both got their stacks in on the river

hoody shows A8xx for quads
and douchebag trumphantly turns over AAxx and saids "full house bitches!, bam! i got them bullet and u be dead"

someone saids, he has quads, and douchebag condecendingly explains, "no, he doesn't have quads, you have to use EXACTLY TWO CARDS"
dealer ships the pot to hoody, meanwhile douchebag calls the floor while berates all the player and the dealer for not knowing the rules of the game, it took the floor 10 minutes to make him begrudingly accept that hoody can play 888+8A for quads. and this whole time hoody never opened his mouth once

Amazing.

That reminds me of a story my buddy told me playing PLO one day. Can't remember where.

My buddy flops nut straight, and it pots flop and gets called by one guy. Turn still has nuts and pots again and is called. River comes, still has nuts, fires all-in. Guy audibly sighs, rolls over his hand for 4spades Ace high, and says, come on, only needed one more spade.

Shame he didn't hit. My favorite non-pussy related thing in life is seeing a donk punt off a stack thinking he has the nut flush in PLO when he's not playing the right number of cards in his hand.

Reminds me of a hand I was in recently

Flop is 678hhh. I hold Axxxhh. I pot, villain calls. Turn x. I pot, he repots, I call. River x. I check, he checks behind. He flips over 5Txxhh and says he was on a straight flush draw.

Playing 1/2 at Parx. I order a Turkey Club on Rye. After I fold a few hands, I get served a Turkey on Pumpernickel.

I think Pumpernickel is in the same range as Rye, so I call and tip the waitress 2 dollars. Luckily, she had two packets of mayo so I won the pot and enjoyed my meal.

Ended the day up two buy ins for the day.

Pumpernickel sucks, dog.

Pumpernickel, carrot sticks, crunchy fruits and nuts. The things you really have to chew will make your chompers tough.

I just love this post! A whole new lesson in poker ranges.:

Considering the buyins you were playing for David seems to be the only one who came out ahead at these games.

Once again, you are the one with the absurd thinking.

Bad player makes an error that indicates he doesn't understand the game.

Why would you ever teach him to play better? Do you hate money?

In your position, my only response to him saying he was bluffing would be. "Sure, sometimes you gotta trust your gut." and leave it at that.

He was obviously a "friend" or whatever if he's introducing him to the game. It's okay to help a player out with some basics, but the manner in which he did it was really piss poor, all the thief stuff aside.

yeah, there is a difference between tapping the glass at a casino and helping out a friend in a home game that is obv for fun, considering OP said the stakes were $5 or something.

all things considered, OP still handled it absurdly (and like an a**hat) because Dave obv doesn't understand what he's doing. that's like making fun of a toddler because they can't multiply.

I missed the part about it being for meaningless money. I guess there are exceptions to every rule, even the "there are no friends at the poker table" rule.

OMC #1 complains that the deck is cold and asks for a new setup. Floor comes with a new setup and we all wait sitting on our hands while they change them over.

First hand with new deck, OMC #2 flops a boat and wins a big pot, jokes that he likes this deck. A couple hands later OMC #2 wins another big pot. Five minutes later the dealer gets pushed and they switch decks from the tray.

OMC #1 starts complaining that we've only played 5 or 6 hands with the last deck and it should stay out. Dealer says, sorry it's procedure. OMC #1 decides he doesn't want to play with the other deck from the new setup so takes a walk for the next down.

I was sitting at a 2/5 game the other day and the player on my left was going on about how he was deep in a tournament, flopped a set of nines but felt like he overplayed it by going all-in because "it wasn't a cash game. I couldn't just go back into my pocket to buy in again. I should have just checked."

I didn't catch the whole hand because I was half-listening, but I said, "Are you saying you flopped a set of nines? And you got all-in? What's the problem again?" He kind of laughed at me with this, you silly child, you just don't have enough experience yet, kind of laugh/look.

A minute later he says, "Let me give you a simpler example: Suppose it's the first hand of the tournament and you have pocket aces. Four people in front of you go all-in - what do you do?" I said of course you call, and he said, "No, you have to fold because there's no way aces hold up against four players!"

Several of us looked at each other, but we all nodded, shook our heads, and said yeah. Then he busted me 30 minutes later with top set vs. top two pair. Gosh, I love this game sometimes.

Heh. I've had the reverse conversation where a guy was trying to tell me a situation in a cash game where you should fold AA preflop. His argument was basically that you're only going to win 15% of the time vs the whole table and you should fold.

The only reason I could think of is if there was an obscenely deep fish that I wouldn't be able to stack later if I lost and then only re-bought for a max buy-in. But that's pretty damn rare.

I guess I didn't get the fishiness of his arguments across very well.

- He regretted going all-in with a set because he felt he didn't need to risk his tournament life with a set, unless he was relatively short-stacked.

- His argument for folding the aces was that someone was going to draw out on him, without taking into account any kind of equity calculations. Aces actually will hold often enough to call in this situation, again unless he overvalues his tournament life enough to fold. This wasn't a bubble, satellite, or pay jump scenario we were discussing. This was the first hand of your average, $100 buy-in donkament at the local Indian casino.

I hear variations of

'It is a coin flip, either they have it (referring to their opponents outs) or they don't'

A lady was trying to use this line when she had AK versus AQ, and how she hates that situation because it is fifty fifty. I had to put on my headphones to avoid saying anything.