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03-30-2017 , 01:10 PM

#51

ibelieveyouoweme$80k

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Originally Posted by dinesh

I don't think you're right about this. Every casino I've played in with a bad beat, QQ is SOL, AA gets the big portion, and SF gets the small portion. Including the PA casinos.

Multiple floors at Harrah's and Sugarhouse say otherwise. Never asked at Parx.

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03-30-2017 , 01:54 PM

#52

NickyC

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Incredible! Something I've heard people talk about for years in "what if" conversations, but it finally happened.

Thanks for the picture and congrats!

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03-30-2017 , 02:24 PM

#53

Suit

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My BBJ rules would pay all 3 hands. I have a 40/20/40 split. In this case the royal would get 20%, AA would get 30%, and QQ would get 10%. 40% room share.

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03-30-2017 , 02:35 PM

#54

dinesh

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Originally Posted by ibelieveyouoweme$80k

Multiple floors at Harrah's and Sugarhouse say otherwise. Never asked at Parx.

I don't have anything vested in the answer, and it's so unlikely to happen that this is basically just a theoretical exercise, but if you really care you should ask someone higher up than just a random floor. They are almost certainly wrong.

But who knows, each room can write their rules however they want, as long as the PGCB approved them. As with Suit's answer above, anything is possible.

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03-30-2017 , 02:57 PM

#55

Lattimer

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Originally Posted by Suit

My BBJ rules would pay all 3 hands. I have a 40/20/40 split. In this case the royal would get 20%, AA would get 30%, and QQ would get 10%. 40% room share.

That's unique. Out of curiosity, what happens if there is a 4th hand that qualifies (say, AKs vs 98s vs QQ vs JJ with QQJJT board)?

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03-30-2017 , 03:40 PM

#56

psandman

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Originally Posted by Suit

My BBJ rules would pay all 3 hands. I have a 40/20/40 split. In this case the royal would get 20%, AA would get 30%, and QQ would get 10%. 40% room share.

Do your rules contemplate a four way? Sf over Sf over quads over quads?

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03-30-2017 , 03:51 PM

#57

NickMPK

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Originally Posted by sump

this.

It wouldn't make sense to rank the 3rd best hand as the bad the beat when the entire reason behind the bad beat jackpot is to reward the 2nd best hand.

I've always thought the "reason" behind the BBJP was to reward players who lost the pot despite having an extremely strong hand. Both losing players should feel they got similarly "bad beat" in this situation. (Really "Bad Beat Jackpot is the wrong term; much closer would be "Cooler Jackpot".)

I think both losing players should qualify for the BBJP. I imagine there is something in the casino rules that states the 3rd place hand only gets a table share, and the OP should not feel any obligation to give them more. But the rule should be changed.

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03-30-2017 , 03:52 PM

#58

Lattimer

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Originally Posted by psandman

Do your rules contemplate a four way? Sf over Sf over quads over quads?

O hai! I just asked him that very question in the post directly above yours

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03-30-2017 , 04:18 PM

#59

sump

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Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3,136

Kind of a side note but do a lot of BBJ's require 2 cards to play?

ex.

Hero: A2s
Villain: JTs

Board: AKQAA

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03-30-2017 , 04:23 PM

#60

chillrob

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AFAIK, all bad beat jackpots require both hole cards to play. Many are even more strict and require a pocket pair for quads to be eligible.

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03-30-2017 , 04:40 PM

#61

Suit

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Originally Posted by Lattimer

That's unique. Out of curiosity, what happens if there is a 4th hand that qualifies (say, AKs vs 98s vs QQ vs JJ with QQJJT board)?

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Originally Posted by psandman

Do your rules contemplate a four way? Sf over Sf over quads over quads?

In that case the 3rd and 4th hand would each get 10% leaving the 2nd best hand getting 20%. We also give the 3rd and 4th best hands a player's share.

Here is the exact wording...

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 40% of the primary jackpot will be paid out to the bad beat hand (Second highest hand)
 In the event that there is more than one “Bad Beat Hand” that qualifies, the third best hand and possibly fourth best hand will each get 10% of this 40% with the larger remaining portion going to the second best hand. The third and fourth best qualifying hand will also receive a player share

It's worded poorly by saying "10% OF this 40%", but it means a true 10% of the BBJ not just 10% of the 40%'s share.

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03-30-2017 , 04:45 PM

#62

psandman

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You might be the only room in the world that does that

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03-30-2017 , 04:52 PM

#63

Lattimer

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So in the almost impossible chance that the 4-way happens, if it's 6-handed then 3rd and 4th get an equal share as 2nd (10% + 40% table share split 4 ways), and if it's 5-handed they get a bigger share (10% + 40% table share split 3 ways)! Even though it's essentially only theoretical, that's a quirky scenario.

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03-30-2017 , 05:01 PM

#64

Suit

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Originally Posted by psandman

You might be the only room in the world that does that

It is quite possible.

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Originally Posted by Lattimer

Yep. And 4 handed they'd each get 30%. The winner gets 20% and 2nd place gets 20%.

Knowing how good I run, this WILL happen and it will be 3am when I get the phone call to come in.

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03-30-2017 , 05:11 PM

#65

goat lover

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your aces were cracked did you get the 99?

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03-30-2017 , 05:17 PM

#66

psandman

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Originally Posted by Suit

It is quite possible.

Yep. And 4 handed they'd each get 30%. The winner gets 20% and 2nd place gets 20%.

Knowing how good I run, this WILL happen and it will be 3am when I get the phone call to come in.

I assume you have told the dealers that anyone who actually deals this mess is fired.