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03-10-2017 , 01:21 AM
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See u soon bro!
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03-10-2017 , 01:04 PM
FYI I moved the blackjack discussion here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/31...kjack-1658094/
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03-10-2017 , 02:51 PM
Hi all. New here. Just finished a week of poker school. I have my audition next week. Any tips? I've been a player for 12 years so just needed to brush up on dealing responsibilities. My weak spot is multiple all ins and doing it quickly. I'll only be dealing NLHE.
Read through a few pages and seems like a really great group. Hoping to learn a bunch!
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03-10-2017 , 02:53 PM
Dont worry about doing it quickly. Worry about doing right. Speed will come later
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03-10-2017 , 08:18 PM
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FYI I moved the blackjack discussion here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/31...kjack-1658094/
Sorry if I clogged up the thread! I just knew I would have fast and informative replies here, and the traffic of that forum is quite slow.
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03-10-2017 , 08:31 PM
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Sorry if I clogged up the thread! I just knew I would have fast and informative replies here, and the traffic of that forum is quite slow.
No problem. Next time, please make the thread over in Other Gambling Games, then post a link to the thread in here and/or in the LCP low-content thread. That way the info is in the correct place AND you can get responses from people here.
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03-10-2017 , 08:46 PM
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No problem. Next time, please make the thread over in Other Gambling Games, then post a link to the thread in here and/or in the LCP low-content thread. That way the info is in the correct place AND you can get responses from people here.
Makes sense, I'll do that next time!
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03-10-2017 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Breastaurant
I have my audition next week. Any tips?
Know how to deal PLO, know how to read low hands. Introduce yourself when you sit down and clear your hands.
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03-10-2017 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Breastaurant
My weak spot is multiple all ins and doing it quickly.
Don't do it quickly. Do it clearly.
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03-11-2017 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
Don't do it quickly. Do it clearly.


This. Accurate and clearly is way more important that speed. Even if you can do the math in your head, but just blurt on "93 on the side!" Explain. "Ok, the bet is 50, he's all in for $19 and we have three other players who are $31 heavy. $31 three times is $93, so our side pot will be $93"
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03-11-2017 , 11:38 AM
I've sat in on a lot of auditions. One thing I notice is that candidates (especially ones without a lot of experience) tend to mumble while they're auditioning. Speak up. Speak clearly.

"It's 15 to call."
"She's all in for 25."
"There are 5 players in the hand."

The idea is to be heard and understood.


And I'll second the post before mine. Do your math out loud. It's easier for you that way and it makes you look more competent, not less. And as a bonus, the players appreciate it too in a live game, not just in an audition. I've been dealing for years and I still do this with my all-ins. "There are 4 players. The bet is $78. He's all in for $46. That's $32 extra for you three, so the side pot is $96."

This accomplishes two valuable things. 1. The players can follow along and be confident that you're handling THEIR money correctly. And 2. If you're just sitting their silently doing math in your head, then all the players see is you not doing anything and they'll lose confidence and get impatient at the same time.
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03-13-2017 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bolt2112
I've sat in on a lot of auditions. One thing I notice is that candidates (especially ones without a lot of experience) tend to mumble while they're auditioning. Speak up. Speak clearly.

"It's 15 to call."
"She's all in for 25."
"There are 5 players in the hand."

The idea is to be heard and understood.


And I'll second the post before mine. Do your math out loud. It's easier for you that way and it makes you look more competent, not less. And as a bonus, the players appreciate it too in a live game, not just in an audition. I've been dealing for years and I still do this with my all-ins. "There are 4 players. The bet is $78. He's all in for $46. That's $32 extra for you three, so the side pot is $96."

This accomplishes two valuable things. 1. The players can follow along and be confident that you're handling THEIR money correctly. And 2. If you're just sitting their silently doing math in your head, then all the players see is you not doing anything and they'll lose confidence and get impatient at the same time.

Ty for your reply! (And thanks to the ones above you as well)

Where I'm struggling is the math. There some I can do right off the top of my head and some where I'll just need to take $57 from everyone and then take the $149 or whatnot from everyone. Basically the kiddie way of doing it. I will definitely be more vocal. I get shy when it comes to the math. I figured I can just use the excuse of not everyone can do math in their head so to be fair to those, it'll make it easier for everyone to follow the action. Lol. Spin it so it looks like it's in their favor rather than I don't know what 36 times 4 is. I can figure it out by rounding and subtracting but I'm slow. I'm hoping over time it'll become second nature. I haven't worked in 5 years (never really dealt professionally either, just some home games years ago) so I'm a bit rusty.

I wish there were more dealer videos on YouTube. If any of you are bored, feel free to make some!
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03-13-2017 , 02:51 PM
Taking in the stacks from small to large is not the kiddie way of doing things. Often it is the best way in multiple side pot situations. It's more clear and easier for players to follow. Sometimes the math is easy and not a problem so doing it mathematically is fine but don't think it is inherently better.
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03-13-2017 , 02:57 PM
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Taking in the stacks from small to large is not the kiddie way of doing things. Often it is the best way in multiple side pot situations. It's more clear and easier for players to follow. Sometimes the math is easy and not a problem so doing it mathematically is fine but don't think it is inherently better.


+1. Unless the side pot is a small amount, I generally take the stacks the small from large. It's going to save you time at most tables because if you do it the other way there is always someone who wants to argue about it. That's my experience anyways.


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03-13-2017 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Breastaurant
Ty for your reply! (And thanks to the ones above you as well)

Where I'm struggling is the math. There some I can do right off the top of my head and some where I'll just need to take $57 from everyone and then take the $149 or whatnot from everyone. Basically the kiddie way of doing it. I will definitely be more vocal. I get shy when it comes to the math. I figured I can just use the excuse of not everyone can do math in their head so to be fair to those, it'll make it easier for everyone to follow the action. Lol. Spin it so it looks like it's in their favor rather than I don't know what 36 times 4 is. I can figure it out by rounding and subtracting but I'm slow. I'm hoping over time it'll become second nature. I haven't worked in 5 years (never really dealt professionally either, just some home games years ago) so I'm a bit rusty.

I wish there were more dealer videos on YouTube. If any of you are bored, feel free to make some!
I don't know of a good way to make the math easier for you. Numbers come easily to some people and not others. I use a lot of tricks that may or may not work for you. FWIW, if I have to multiply a number by 4 and the answer doesn't come automatically to me, I'll double it and then double it again, rather than try to multiply it out in my head.

Another thing comes to mind about auditions. Smile a lot. Be as sociable as you can at the table. If the hiring manager likes you and likes your energy that will be a huge advantage, and could get you the job over another applicant who makes no mistakes but has no personality.

Good luck to you.
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03-16-2017 , 04:10 PM
Discussion: 1/3 UTG raises to $15 all day/total. 1 caller of $15 and then guy goes all in for $23. Got to talking about if it was $24. If the all in was $24, original raiser could have reraised since it was double his raise of $12, now $24 because of the all in. Dealer said it had to be at least $27. Half the table was $24 and half believed $27.

In poker school we were taught double the raise, not double the bet. Curious if different casinos have different rules when it comes to this or not.
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03-16-2017 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Breastaurant
Discussion: 1/3 UTG raises to $15 all day/total. 1 caller of $15 and then guy goes all in for $23. Got to talking about if it was $24. If the all in was $24, original raiser could have reraised since it was double his raise of $12, now $24 because of the all in. Dealer said it had to be at least $27. Half the table was $24 and half believed $27.

In poker school we were taught double the raise, not double the bet. Curious if different casinos have different rules when it comes to this or not.
ITS NOT DOUBLE ANYTHING.

For it to be a legal raise it must be as much as the last legal bet or raise. In this case the last legal raise was $12 so the all-in must be $12 more in order to be a legal raise ($27 total bet). If we say it has to be double then the raise would have to $24 ($39 total bet) which is obviously not correct..... Not sure why people use the word double here. It does not have to be double it has to be at least as much as..... but people love to say double and that causes confusion.

I did play in a room that a rule that the total of the all-in bet had to be at least as much as the prior total bet (so in this case making it $30 -- in effect the raise had to be the amount of the total bet the player was facing)). The manager knew this was nonstandard but just thought it was better this way...

I have no idea how anyone could possibly come up with $24 total in your scenario.
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03-16-2017 , 08:43 PM
I thought double the bet WAS the standard for Europe?
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03-16-2017 , 10:49 PM
The only alternate rule I have heard of, "double the bet", would mean the minimum raise would be to $30, so a larger bet. No idea where they got the smaller number.
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03-17-2017 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by psandman
ITS NOT DOUBLE ANYTHING.

For it to be a legal raise it must be as much as the last legal bet or raise. In this case the last legal raise was $12 so the all-in must be $12 more in order to be a legal raise ($27 total bet). If we say it has to be double then the raise would have to $24 ($39 total bet) which is obviously not correct..... Not sure why people use the word double here. It does not have to be double it has to be at least as much as..... but people love to say double and that causes confusion.

I did play in a room that a rule that the total of the all-in bet had to be at least as much as the prior total bet (so in this case making it $30 -- in effect the raise had to be the amount of the total bet the player was facing)). The manager knew this was nonstandard but just thought it was better this way...

I have no idea how anyone could possibly come up with $24 total in your scenario.

Thank you! I understand it now. The $24 was forgetting the initial $3.

Another question if you guys don't mind. Do you deal for anyone's home game? Ever been asked? Is it worth it or too much drama?
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03-17-2017 , 09:58 AM
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Thank you! I understand it now. The $24 was forgetting the initial $3.

Another question if you guys don't mind. Do you deal for anyone's home game? Ever been asked? Is it worth it or too much drama?

I've never dealt a home game. I have been asked and have politely declined. I know I'd be fired from my regular job without hesitation if it ever came out that I'd dealt a home game. I have heard of some of my co-workers who have dealt home games, which is troubling right there, because it reinforces that people don't keep their mouths shut... why should that information ever make it to my ears?

And I understand that a dealer can easily make a week's worth of tips (or more) in a single night at [the right] home game.
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03-17-2017 , 10:31 AM
Agree. The risk is simply not worth the reward. Not only would you get fired if the wrong person found out, there's a good chance you would lose your gaming license which means either you find a new field or move to a new state and hope they don't deny you for a license.
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03-17-2017 , 11:46 AM
I would deal a home game on two conditions.


1. Compensation was very worth while.

2. I had actual knowledge that the home game was closely held not widely known about. In fact I would be so strict on this rule that I would probably have to know every single player n the game and I don't mean just a passing acquaintance.

So basically the answer is no. I once had a player offer me a job in his underground game back in Brooklyn but their was no way I would get involved in that.
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03-17-2017 , 12:49 PM
Been offered. Said no. Don't need that.

Have coworkers who have done it, mostly when they were between dealing gigs.

Like others have said. Good money. Not worth the risk.
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03-17-2017 , 03:00 PM
rare to have a dedicated dealer at a home game. Every home game i have been to was pass the deal/self deal.

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I've never dealt a home game. I have been asked and have politely declined. I know I'd be fired from my regular job without hesitation if it ever came out that I'd dealt a home game. I have heard of some of my co-workers who have dealt home games, which is troubling right there, because it reinforces that people don't keep their mouths shut... why should that information ever make it to my ears?

And I understand that a dealer can easily make a week's worth of tips (or more) in a single night at [the right] home game.
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