Speaking of probability, what are the odds that a thread where people try to explain/prove advanced statistics to somebody who doesn’t believe that 1 in 13 has the same chances as 4 in 52 (because 4 is bigger than 1) can reach 1000 posts?

Results of 50000 deck shuffle, picking 1st card from each deck, each deck taken in sequence.
Club-Ace : 1012
Club-Two : 950
Club-Three : 976
Club-Four : 1007
Club-Five : 955
Club-Six : 972
Club-Seven : 950
Club-Eight : 943
Club-Nine : 961
Club-Ten : 964
Club-Jack : 983
Club-Queen : 963
Club-King : 928
Diamond-Ace : 960
Diamond-Two : 948
Diamond-Three : 993
Diamond-Four : 986
Diamond-Five : 985
Diamond-Six : 909
Diamond-Seven : 972
Diamond-Eight : 942
Diamond-Nine : 948
Diamond-Ten : 1056
Diamond-Jack : 908
Diamond-Queen : 944
Diamond-King : 957
Heart-Ace : 993
Heart-Two : 949
Heart-Three : 1000
Heart-Four : 981
Heart-Five : 939
Heart-Six : 977
Heart-Seven : 965
Heart-Eight : 996
Heart-Nine : 994
Heart-Ten : 910
Heart-Jack : 960
Heart-Queen : 978
Heart-King : 946
Spade-Ace : 875
Spade-Two : 968
Spade-Three : 984
Spade-Four : 963
Spade-Five : 934
Spade-Six : 1001
Spade-Seven : 926
Spade-Eight : 987
Spade-Nine : 932
Spade-Ten : 911
Spade-Jack : 961
Spade-Queen : 948
Spade-King : 950



Results of 50000 deck shuffle, picking a deck at random (from 1 to 500 in the line), picking 1st card from that deck, and refilling the queue.
Total decks created: 4625344
Club-Ace : 980
Club-Two : 933
Club-Three : 954
Club-Four : 926
Club-Five : 1011
Club-Six : 1008
Club-Seven : 968
Club-Eight : 962
Club-Nine : 930
Club-Ten : 960
Club-Jack : 921
Club-Queen : 954
Club-King : 936
Diamond-Ace : 1000
Diamond-Two : 885
Diamond-Three : 987
Diamond-Four : 886
Diamond-Five : 977
Diamond-Six : 969
Diamond-Seven : 943
Diamond-Eight : 982
Diamond-Nine : 993
Diamond-Ten : 1023
Diamond-Jack : 945
Diamond-Queen : 952
Diamond-King : 1000
Heart-Ace : 995
Heart-Two : 1008
Heart-Three : 970
Heart-Four : 957
Heart-Five : 956
Heart-Six : 953
Heart-Seven : 931
Heart-Eight : 955
Heart-Nine : 936
Heart-Ten : 918
Heart-Jack : 972
Heart-Queen : 918
Heart-King : 955
Spade-Ace : 935
Spade-Two : 951
Spade-Three : 987
Spade-Four : 942
Spade-Five : 930
Spade-Six : 1009
Spade-Seven : 895
Spade-Eight : 948
Spade-Nine : 1026
Spade-Ten : 968
Spade-Jack : 1026
Spade-Queen : 962
Spade-King : 1012


The third set of tests, the random test again is the winner , in more under's

Results of 50000 deck shuffle, picking 1st card from each deck, each deck taken in sequence.
Club-Ace : 938
Club-Two : 915
Club-Three : 966
Club-Four : 974
Club-Five : 969
Club-Six : 952
Club-Seven : 997
Club-Eight : 943
Club-Nine : 953
Club-Ten : 948
Club-Jack : 957
Club-Queen : 962
Club-King : 973
Diamond-Ace : 980
Diamond-Two : 954
Diamond-Three : 973
Diamond-Four : 968
Diamond-Five : 968
Diamond-Six : 972
Diamond-Seven : 941
Diamond-Eight : 986
Diamond-Nine : 1012
Diamond-Ten : 944
Diamond-Jack : 936
Diamond-Queen : 968
Diamond-King : 992
Heart-Ace : 931
Heart-Two : 914
Heart-Three : 957
Heart-Four : 945
Heart-Five : 943
Heart-Six : 969
Heart-Seven : 989
Heart-Eight : 981
Heart-Nine : 956
Heart-Ten : 928
Heart-Jack : 966
Heart-Queen : 989
Heart-King : 1014
Spade-Ace : 921
Spade-Two : 977
Spade-Three : 1013
Spade-Four : 980
Spade-Five : 918
Spade-Six : 962
Spade-Seven : 909
Spade-Eight : 952
Spade-Nine : 963
Spade-Ten : 991
Spade-Jack : 969
Spade-Queen : 974
Spade-King : 948

Results of 50000 deck shuffle, picking a deck at random (from 1 to 500 in the line), picking 1st card from that deck, and refilling the queue.
Total decks created: 4292446
Club-Ace : 941
Club-Two : 984
Club-Three : 964
Club-Four : 953
Club-Five : 981
Club-Six : 973
Club-Seven : 953
Club-Eight : 978
Club-Nine : 949
Club-Ten : 1004
Club-Jack : 964
Club-Queen : 903
Club-King : 971
Diamond-Ace : 926
Diamond-Two : 982
Diamond-Three : 968
Diamond-Four : 943
Diamond-Five : 994
Diamond-Six : 994
Diamond-Seven : 969
Diamond-Eight : 958
Diamond-Nine : 970
Diamond-Ten : 890
Diamond-Jack : 983
Diamond-Queen : 953
Diamond-King : 942
Heart-Ace : 900
Heart-Two : 998
Heart-Three : 987
Heart-Four : 938
Heart-Five : 969
Heart-Six : 1016
Heart-Seven : 973
Heart-Eight : 981
Heart-Nine : 985
Heart-Ten : 998
Heart-Jack : 956
Heart-Queen : 972
Heart-King : 948
Spade-Ace : 972
Spade-Two : 968
Spade-Three : 902
Spade-Four : 1003
Spade-Five : 950
Spade-Six : 916
Spade-Seven : 988
Spade-Eight : 974
Spade-Nine : 966
Spade-Ten : 929
Spade-Jack : 955
Spade-Queen : 967
Spade-King : 899

Test set 4, again the random test is the winner, more under's


4/4 so far hmmmm...

Results of 50000 deck shuffle, picking 1st card from each deck, each deck taken in sequence.
Club-Ace : 944
Club-Two : 923
Club-Three : 959
Club-Four : 935
Club-Five : 1028
Club-Six : 1009
Club-Seven : 933
Club-Eight : 991
Club-Nine : 982
Club-Ten : 993
Club-Jack : 956
Club-Queen : 967
Club-King : 898
Diamond-Ace : 1004
Diamond-Two : 1027
Diamond-Three : 978
Diamond-Four : 915
Diamond-Five : 968
Diamond-Six : 901
Diamond-Seven : 960
Diamond-Eight : 940
Diamond-Nine : 1001
Diamond-Ten : 971
Diamond-Jack : 928
Diamond-Queen : 1002
Diamond-King : 888
Heart-Ace : 1020
Heart-Two : 934
Heart-Three : 923
Heart-Four : 943
Heart-Five : 979
Heart-Six : 988
Heart-Seven : 949
Heart-Eight : 956
Heart-Nine : 974
Heart-Ten : 914
Heart-Jack : 958
Heart-Queen : 945
Heart-King : 964
Spade-Ace : 976
Spade-Two : 933
Spade-Three : 1000
Spade-Four : 966
Spade-Five : 971
Spade-Six : 988
Spade-Seven : 988
Spade-Eight : 1006
Spade-Nine : 961
Spade-Ten : 925
Spade-Jack : 965
Spade-Queen : 913
Spade-King : 960

Results of 50000 deck shuffle, picking a deck at random (from 1 to 500 in the line), picking 1st card from that deck, and refilling the queue.
Total decks created: 4560336
Club-Ace : 892
Club-Two : 1014
Club-Three : 981
Club-Four : 973
Club-Five : 1001
Club-Six : 1001
Club-Seven : 1012
Club-Eight : 939
Club-Nine : 983
Club-Ten : 1015
Club-Jack : 993
Club-Queen : 910
Club-King : 964
Diamond-Ace : 949
Diamond-Two : 957
Diamond-Three : 998
Diamond-Four : 934
Diamond-Five : 980
Diamond-Six : 1012
Diamond-Seven : 949
Diamond-Eight : 969
Diamond-Nine : 966
Diamond-Ten : 1005
Diamond-Jack : 965
Diamond-Queen : 1003
Diamond-King : 933
Heart-Ace : 950
Heart-Two : 990
Heart-Three : 948
Heart-Four : 968
Heart-Five : 942
Heart-Six : 1041
Heart-Seven : 944
Heart-Eight : 982
Heart-Nine : 954
Heart-Ten : 898
Heart-Jack : 938
Heart-Queen : 914
Heart-King : 919
Spade-Ace : 935
Spade-Two : 975
Spade-Three : 974
Spade-Four : 919
Spade-Five : 998
Spade-Six : 953
Spade-Seven : 931
Spade-Eight : 910
Spade-Nine : 949
Spade-Ten : 932
Spade-Jack : 936
Spade-Queen : 957
Spade-King : 945


Make that 4/4 and one tie.

Results of 50000 deck shuffle, picking 1st card from each deck, each deck taken in sequence.
Club-Ace : 970
Club-Two : 917
Club-Three : 991
Club-Four : 1027
Club-Five : 904
Club-Six : 981
Club-Seven : 981
Club-Eight : 1029
Club-Nine : 950
Club-Ten : 965
Club-Jack : 926
Club-Queen : 891
Club-King : 932
Diamond-Ace : 957
Diamond-Two : 906
Diamond-Three : 969
Diamond-Four : 932
Diamond-Five : 934
Diamond-Six : 971
Diamond-Seven : 993
Diamond-Eight : 944
Diamond-Nine : 956
Diamond-Ten : 978
Diamond-Jack : 959
Diamond-Queen : 952
Diamond-King : 937
Heart-Ace : 937
Heart-Two : 985
Heart-Three : 929
Heart-Four : 957
Heart-Five : 977
Heart-Six : 919
Heart-Seven : 996
Heart-Eight : 1030
Heart-Nine : 952
Heart-Ten : 965
Heart-Jack : 1006
Heart-Queen : 941
Heart-King : 940
Spade-Ace : 991
Spade-Two : 986
Spade-Three : 996
Spade-Four : 939
Spade-Five : 974
Spade-Six : 944
Spade-Seven : 950
Spade-Eight : 968
Spade-Nine : 975
Spade-Ten : 992
Spade-Jack : 963
Spade-Queen : 958
Spade-King : 978

Results of 50000 deck shuffle, picking a deck at random (from 1 to 500 in the line), picking 1st card from that deck, and refilling the queue.
Total decks created: 4436532
Club-Ace : 969
Club-Two : 990
Club-Three : 967
Club-Four : 921
Club-Five : 939
Club-Six : 1039
Club-Seven : 939
Club-Eight : 942
Club-Nine : 971
Club-Ten : 991
Club-Jack : 1021
Club-Queen : 1027
Club-King : 1034
Diamond-Ace : 974
Diamond-Two : 916
Diamond-Three : 925
Diamond-Four : 990
Diamond-Five : 953
Diamond-Six : 990
Diamond-Seven : 945
Diamond-Eight : 895
Diamond-Nine : 915
Diamond-Ten : 932
Diamond-Jack : 997
Diamond-Queen : 971
Diamond-King : 977
Heart-Ace : 983
Heart-Two : 993
Heart-Three : 907
Heart-Four : 904
Heart-Five : 944
Heart-Six : 943
Heart-Seven : 975
Heart-Eight : 974
Heart-Nine : 983
Heart-Ten : 999
Heart-Jack : 953
Heart-Queen : 988
Heart-King : 930
Spade-Ace : 958
Spade-Two : 980
Spade-Three : 965
Spade-Four : 901
Spade-Five : 1024
Spade-Six : 985
Spade-Seven : 945
Spade-Eight : 974
Spade-Nine : 902
Spade-Ten : 963
Spade-Jack : 998
Spade-Queen : 907
Spade-King : 892


Again the winner is the random one so that's 5/6 and one tie. This 1/2 is not looking good. It looks biased so far .

Results of 50000 deck shuffle, picking 1st card from each deck, each deck taken in sequence.
Club-Ace : 975
Club-Two : 989
Club-Three : 943
Club-Four : 876
Club-Five : 932
Club-Six : 945
Club-Seven : 975
Club-Eight : 1003
Club-Nine : 916
Club-Ten : 995
Club-Jack : 963
Club-Queen : 972
Club-King : 1005
Diamond-Ace : 981
Diamond-Two : 991
Diamond-Three : 899
Diamond-Four : 954
Diamond-Five : 905
Diamond-Six : 949
Diamond-Seven : 912
Diamond-Eight : 953
Diamond-Nine : 939
Diamond-Ten : 1025
Diamond-Jack : 968
Diamond-Queen : 982
Diamond-King : 926
Heart-Ace : 955
Heart-Two : 1005
Heart-Three : 1005
Heart-Four : 968
Heart-Five : 931
Heart-Six : 998
Heart-Seven : 1023
Heart-Eight : 997
Heart-Nine : 973
Heart-Ten : 998
Heart-Jack : 917
Heart-Queen : 1011
Heart-King : 879
Spade-Ace : 932
Spade-Two : 958
Spade-Three : 973
Spade-Four : 960
Spade-Five : 964
Spade-Six : 946
Spade-Seven : 992
Spade-Eight : 970
Spade-Nine : 992
Spade-Ten : 954
Spade-Jack : 984
Spade-Queen : 925
Spade-King : 917


Results of 50000 deck shuffle, picking a deck at random (from 1 to 500 in the line), picking 1st card from that deck, and refilling the queue.
Total decks created: 4447024
Club-Ace : 927
Club-Two : 950
Club-Three : 946
Club-Four : 1033
Club-Five : 976
Club-Six : 954
Club-Seven : 973
Club-Eight : 943
Club-Nine : 1010
Club-Ten : 960
Club-Jack : 947
Club-Queen : 935
Club-King : 921
Diamond-Ace : 983
Diamond-Two : 998
Diamond-Three : 964
Diamond-Four : 937
Diamond-Five : 916
Diamond-Six : 951
Diamond-Seven : 951
Diamond-Eight : 992
Diamond-Nine : 963
Diamond-Ten : 933
Diamond-Jack : 946
Diamond-Queen : 942
Diamond-King : 943
Heart-Ace : 980
Heart-Two : 940
Heart-Three : 953
Heart-Four : 946
Heart-Five : 958
Heart-Six : 1008
Heart-Seven : 937
Heart-Eight : 1005
Heart-Nine : 925
Heart-Ten : 963
Heart-Jack : 964
Heart-Queen : 987
Heart-King : 975
Spade-Ace : 965
Spade-Two : 989
Spade-Three : 946
Spade-Four : 940
Spade-Five : 959
Spade-Six : 948
Spade-Seven : 978
Spade-Eight : 948
Spade-Nine : 988
Spade-Ten : 959
Spade-Jack : 1004
Spade-Queen : 968
Spade-King : 973


Ok, on this one, we have finally swapped from red to black and the first test is the winner. I do not think it is 1/2 but it is swapping so therefore I stand
down and concede that I am wrong after all this time.

While the OP will obsess about this for many more years to come, the rest of the posters are pretty much at the end game with him. However, he may very well post 100+ spam posts of the detailed deal like the above, and then cherry pick specific results (which of course will happen just due to the math of the situation) to conclude there is some form of non-existent bias in his mind that he did not see beforehand. He is in the end a creature of habit, even with his confusing concession post. Good chance he will find something new to be worried about pretty soon, or else he will just start again on a new forum.

Even with all of that - I will cautiously take the under.

You must have been writing while I was writing, you are wrong about me


I stand down and concede that I am wrong after all this time, If for all these years somebody had kindly tested this, like somebody has now, then I have the results to see it myself.

A big thank you Evil for doing the tests .

Okie dokie, I will play along (while knowing you will revert in the future), and wish you fun on your future adventures. Good use of your last 10 years as well. Stay ostensible my friends.

All the best.

What does this mean? I have no idea what you think you are testing.

Test {a} 1/2 chance it will have more under's than test {b}

Test {b} 1/2 chance it will have more under's than test {a}



The only test that as not been done is to test the amount of something in y .

But I have to back off , the ban is coming if I don't. I would not dare to mention burn cards in a new thread.

I am confident online poker is broke in some way compared to live. I think we can visually see it when we are playing, but the maths always seem to add up.

Took less time to revert than expected. I figured it would be at least 60/2 minutes.

All the best.

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These are 20 hands I have just played on stars, my app is still open I have sat out . Do any of you not see how odd this is?

The results of the test show one particular thing is not broke, it does not conclusively show it is not broke.


Can we look for possibilities of how it could be broke?


Put all our minds together and find the reason.

I suspect your mind will be left alone for the most part moving forward, but as a parting gift to help you on you obsessive way (you had your moment, enjoy that it happened, but now it is gone), I will present something for you to collectively think about and test as you see fit.


These are 20 hands I just played

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I don't see anything that is an issue. Perhaps if they burned a card beforehand (you can give some details as to why that would matter when talking to yourself in future). As well, I noticed that 15 of the 20 hands had an odd number as the last digit , and I was sitting on an odd numbered table, and today is the 11th, and 15 hands - more odd numbers!. While my hands were certainly random, the number sequence of hands/table/dates cannot just be an odd coincidence!

All the best.

They are muti-table results?

They are the sequence of hands I was dealt whenever I was sipping a Coca-Cola. The Pepsi hands were different, and reflected more of the taste of the new generation. Don't even get started on Dr. Pepper hands, that's when the tables started playing an annoying jingle that stuck in my head. Very sinister.

Anyway, I did enjoy your weird visit, and the actual real chat it created (of which you were not really that significant). Unlike others, I strongly encourage you to allow this obsession of yours to consume you for the next 10,20,30 + years. You seem to need it, and it is harmless to the rest of humanity, while bringing a bizarre purpose to you. Essentially, you created your personal religion, though it is a shame for you that you cannot make a single penny from it. You should ?/3 your efforts in that regard.

All the best.

You got a 7 only once. See I can cherry pick too.

Also the T came up only once.

That is not really the oddity I was referring to .

Anyway I am going back to science for a while , I have some black holes to deal with. Hopefully some of you do consider it could be just broken and well consider it.

Thank you all for the talk, it is good for my deluded mind.

Why not? It wasn't the cherry you liked?

Besides the fact nobody is going to believe you do science (or at least shouldn't), nobody is going to agree with you.

He likely has similar chats already going on other forums. SInce this thread was reaching the final stages, it was a good time for a dramatic exit statement from him, and then time for him to move on, while never moving forward.

He is just an example of the weird things that can form an obsession in people. I still remember a sales rep at an appliance store going on a 5-10 minute bizarre rant about the dish washing soap pods, and wondering how they can really dissolve, and what the companies are putting on them to coat our dishes etc etc. I think he was responding to my asking what the warranty was or something. He seemed to pick a strange field of work given his personal issues, but one never know what makes a person tick, and sometimes asking "what is the warranty?" triggers a switch. Billions of humans, some will always be outliers. Hopefully they are productive, or at least harmless (like this OP).

I call shenanigans! Everyone knows people either drink Pepsi or Coke. Nobody drinks both!

Your subjective opinion is rather irrelevant. People already have turned hostile, I had hardly begun to look at the possible problems.
I know to leave , I am not staying and discussing with hostile people who think they are brain doctors or something similar.
That is delusional behaviour in a discussion. I stay on topic .
If you think it is not broken without looking at all the possibilities then that is not being objective sir.
Push for a ban, that is the norm when people stop being people.