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9 minutes into the video and I hate Richard so much. He stinks.

edit: He hasn't addressed **** in 12 minutes except talking about himself and his accomplishments.

Who is Richard?

Cliffs...I watched first 10 mins and it was just a promo for Team Gripsed and claims of "Cyberbullying". Then hopped through the rest and didn't hear anything in relation to the claims being made against him

Does he address the viewbotting / chatbot allegations?

Kinda seemed like he was writing an English paper and just tried to get the word count as high as possible without addressing the main topic

Watched full video, addresses nothing about the accusations. Complete self promotion. I wanted to punch my computer by the end.

'cyberbullying' lol. Can't make this **** up.

19:50 he said something, but not directly. It was the worst video ever. Evan should go into politics.

So to be clear.

No denial of viewbotting?

No thoughts of why weird traffic graphs or discussion about if he was aware of anything out of the ordinary?

No theories of why viewers who only follow one and view one channel only ask questions relating to promotional material?

No statement in relation to if he has discussed the suspicious activity on his channel with those at twitch?

The only denials I hear at 19:50 are in relation to allegations that have NOT been made. Nobody has accused him of stealing from Gripsers. Staples said himself that even if there was viewbotting going on, it is worth little in raw $ amounts, and I am guessing that he knows a lot about how much a viewer is worth in those terms.

A good analogy to viewbotting is how record companies in the 80's used to send runners out to buy up all the singles in shops to boost where a particular band would appear in the charts. The idea was that the band then got exposure and people bought albums and tickets for the tour. No "fan" was stolen from. The deception was making a band seem more popular and as a result then being able to take advantage of the free publicity.

I am sure you are reading this Evan, why don't you come in and answer people's questions, such as the ones I have posted above.

Watching right now, so cringe

I as well

Best part of the video was the comments. Dude is nuts, as you can see, he continues to look to the bottom left. It's like he's reading cue cards. Mind boggling really.

Funny thing is, he gave the impression that all will continue to be well and he'll continue to make videos and whatnot. No way in hell.

Tomorrow's twitch stream shall be interesting.

i barely watch his streams, but i watched a lot of youtubevideos before.

He didnt stream for a while, came back, pimped his stream with viewbots to get back in action - i dont like it, but this is no stealing or fraud.

All the guys here going for a witchhunt should really care about their own problems.

In the end the Users decide which stream they watch, and i dont think gripsed is entertaining enough to build a huge viewership or fanbase.

Doing promos for ****ty sites is not hurting any of the topstreamers or do you worry that he takes your viewers with a 50$ freeroll on any crapsite, really ?

Really wondering what he has done to get so much hate from a former streamer and brokeass like postfloprepop, who doesnt even stream anymore but still feels he has to put a lot of hate into the twitch community for obviously failing with his stream and maybe his life.

probably the most spot on post here.

I can rip this video blog of psycho babble self promotion apart in so many ways but it's really not worth the time.

Nobody is saying he hasn't put out free content that has probably helped some people out but by dodging the allegations in front of him speaks volumes.

Gripsed continues to say all he has done as if we should all just look the other way here but his contributions aren't relevant in what he's accused of.

Human nature is a complex but surprisingly consistent thing. When someone is accused of something that attacks them to the core that is patently false they almost unanimously jump up and down screaming in denial. Well as we see this did not happen here or even close to it and the truth is now clear to see.

Another consistent foible of human nature is where there is smoke there is fire. If someone is willing to cut corners in one area of their life the chances that they will do it in other areas rises exponentially. I think many of you in here should now be pondering this second point.

What!

What! O My God.

The trouble is Twitch encourages manipulation of viewing figures by allowing streamers to host each other. Jaime and others regularly give hundreds or even thousands of viewers to others when they finish streaming themselves.

This youtube video is a fkn joke. Just another bla bla promotion ****.
Does he really think that we're all that stupid? Maybe he gets away with it by some gripsed fanboys, but he cant be serious that he gets away with this video. Wasted 25minutes to hear that delf promo bs.

His stream will get high number of viewers today ,because of all these allegation and doesnt respond to it yet. Would be fun if he is going to brag next day that he got huge viewership without viewbots and take it as proof.

There's no such thing as bad publicity !

Developing from my earlier post I'm sure streamers agree to host each other. That seems to be "cheating" just as much as anything Gripsed is alleged to have done.

I won't be harsh as you seem to be very out of touch,
But you are comparing the idea of streamers hosting other streamers for a *real* audience to help further develop the community by exposing people to new content , promote/support each other's channels, entertainment for the viewer to what gripsed is alleged of doing of paying money for *fake* viewers to deceive people on the channels entertainment value / gain exposure in a way that does not develop the community at all, actually the opposite, to promote only himself. Real vs fake viewers is the main point and it's insane you group them together as the same thing.

Not to mention supporting other streamers is very common and encouraged on twitch and I would go as far as to say common good etiquette for big streams to host someone else , sometimes friends, when they are finished streaming ; where as viewbotting is strictly against tos and really poor etiquette as it puts you ahead of the people actually putting work in to promote their own channels.

The only advantage of getting extra fake viewers is to move up the list of streamers. That's not really any different to moving up because one of your friends has given you hundreds or even over a thousand extra viewers. If one is "stealing" from other streamers who move down the list then so is the other.

Those down playing this saying well nobody is stealing etc is [deliberately] missing the point. It is about honesty and most importantly trust, which in the poker community extremely important.

If you can't trust somebody to play fair within the ToS of twitch, make use of bots to artificially boost your seeming popularity and chat bots to constantly drum up awareness of products you are trying to sell, that is dishonest and questions trust in somebody.

Gripsed is yet to address the direct allegations. I would like to hear his side of the story, not a 25 min advert for Team Gripsed.

Is what Pokerstars pros say about Pokerstars trustworthy ? Most of the Twitchers self-promote. Evan said that doing dishonest stuff was against the whole ethos of Team Gripsed.