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Originally Posted by shramo
Another thing I'd like to point out...
Of the hundreds of free youtube training videos Gripsed has made, there is a video of how to use the 3rd party Twitch apps including MULTITWITCH.TV:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRF_rbc9vF0
He was the first poker and only poker streamer I've ever heard even mention it in the year and a half or so I've been on Twitch, Dramatic Degen being the other who promotes it quite well, but he's only been streaming for about 4 months. And he did this 11 months ago! How many streamers' revenue were bolstered by the 3,000 people who watched that video became educated and started watching multiple streams at a time? I personally have up 3 or more streams at any given time because I mod for multiple people or just to help their numbers out.
So to the point of him "stealing" viewers by pushing his numbers higher with view/chat bots, or by going and promoting his stream in "scummy" ways in other PokerStaples' stream or even the smaller guys, I think it is a narrow minded view of a bigger picture.
Yet again, Evan took the time to educate the Twitch community to help viewers get a full experience and watch multiple streamers. This again INCREASES the revenue of other Poker streamers including the smaller streams. Education and building the community has always been his focus. Educating poker players of all levels, educating Twitch viewers new and old, and here so many people are ready to burn him at the stake and break ties with him and turn their backs on him for his years of helping the community over something that hasn't even been proven to be his own doing yet.
Open your eyes to the bigger picture.
Agree on this and your previous posts. GRIPSED has been one of the most positive streamers/twitch/poker advocate in the past 2-3 years. When picking up the game, I was searching through various websites online, and happened to came upon his YouTube channel. I watched all the videos, and they were long, educational, and his library grew extensively over the following years. I became an avid follower in 2011. Unfortunately being in the military, my unit got deployed in 2012. Luckily since Evan, posted everything on YouTube his videos was easily accessible to view and study-all for FREE while I was overseas during my off-duty hours. When I returned home, I wanted to give my newfound skills a shot. I decided to go to my local casino and register for a MTT. I didn't even bother to look at what tourney to buy into, but I got into a step up satellite. I ended up winning a seat to the final tourney for a shot at a main event seat. I registered for the final satellite a couple days later, and placed top 2 to receive a seat into a $3500 main event seat the following week. Besides the two satellites, this was my first LIVE tournament ever. I was a little nervous, but once I sat down I felt really comfortable. My very first day I lucked out and got seated at the feature table for almost the entire day (which meant I my table didn't have to break down much). I was sitting down with poker pros and didn't even realized it. A few hours into the day, my friend, who was watching the stream, texted me that one of those pros was seated across from me. That person, ended up being Todd Terry. Along the way I discovered there was numerous pros, and other well known players that participated in the tournament (at the time, unbeknownst to me) including: Brian Hastings, BdBeatSlayer, Stealthmunk, Will Failla. (link for list of players that made it past day 1:
http://www.foxwoodspoker.com/search?...12:08:00-04:00)
Anyway to keep the story short. I made it to the final day, day 4 to the final table with guys like the reigning PCA champion. It was my first live tourney experience, and it was 4 whole days of 12 hours of poker each day (more like 10 hrs a day with breaks). I ended up 8th for over 20k. I had satellited in for $60, so I had a massive return for my first live score. For the next year or so, I grinded the local casino in cash game/daily mtt's for a living to support myself and my then fiance (now my wife) through poker. I never would have gone over a year without any income, if it wasn't for poker. It paid bills, and all travelling expenses I had, as well as expenses when I went on vacations. I owe the edge I had, to the training from the FREE videos of GRIPSED. I even got a WSOP Circuit ring along the way.
Fortunately (or unfortunately depending on your views), I found a decent and stable job, so I don't play poker as often as I used to now. Instead of being at the casino for many days of the weeks, I only go once or twice a month, sometimes every two months.
I'm sure anyone who follow GRIPSED knows the story of Charlie "Epiphany77" Carrel. I'm no Charlie, but I do owe GRIPSED a lot, because his site/YT channel got me through a very tough time in my life.
As far as this incident is concerned, I'm trying to look at it as unbiased as I can. So I've read the replies and responses here, as well as quite a few on the reddit thread. I do hope we get a real reply sometime soon. I do find it funny how some people think GRIPSED is a nobody. I admit for twitch streamers, he's not as known as a Jcarver, but he's been active in the online poker community for a long time now. His YT has over 50k subscribers (which is actually more than JCarver). I'm sure there are others that has stories like mine, that hasn't been posted. So I'm sure there are plenty of "gripsters," awaiting for an answer.
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