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05-23-2016 , 08:58 PM
Just a thought, but maybe Meereen under Daenerys is becoming sanctuary for eunuchs. Varys, Grey Wurm and Unsullied are there already and there's a good chance that Theon No-Cock is also coming to visit there. Just make Tyrion one too and he might boast of whole council of people with no man-parts

I have hated Sansa since season 1. I generally hate characters that are all the time naive or idiots and mess all things up (like familje Grimes in Walking Dead). And I don't mean Hodor, who really, really could hate poor, adorable Hodor?
05-23-2016 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
She's one of the best characters in the show imo. That wasn't always true, but her arch is extremely well done, possibly better than any other character. I think she's been the most interesting character of this season tbh.
nah
05-23-2016 , 09:27 PM
Loved the comment that Jon Snow is too brooding. Seemed like a tip of the hat to the Jon Snow dinner party.

Great episode.
05-23-2016 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MortalWombat
1. Fry's dog Seymour on Futurama
2. Hodor
3. Col. Henry Blake
Coach from Cheers
05-23-2016 , 10:27 PM
Surprised they don't have a Tyrian falling in love with another whore.
05-23-2016 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
I'm surprised some people dislike Sansa. She's one of the best characters in the show imo. That wasn't always true, but her arch is extremely well done, possibly better than any other character. I think she's been the most interesting character of this season tbh.
No.

Not even remotely. Her entire arc is "damsel in distress" until two episodes ago when she magically transformed into a badass for no good or believable reason. Even Sophie Turner complained about how one dimensional her character was, and said she wished she was allowed to do more than just cower in fear all the time.

No character arc beats Bronn's arc.

Jamie had a decent one that got overshadowed when the showrunners decided to forcefeed us a new Good Guy Jamie version of the character.

Tyrion has had a solid arc.

Despite the excessive training scenes, Arya has had a good arc as well.

Going to stop there before I start going through every character's arc. Ain't nobody got time for that.


as far as saddest TV character deaths..

Spoiler:
RIP Snot Boogie
05-23-2016 , 10:38 PM
This time loop **** got me in a mess on my speculation for future events.

What if bran decides to vision back to the past and use aerys Dragons to fight the white walkers before they become the white walkers. Maybe he has to warg into young aerys body and the phrase 'burn them all' gets glued into his head similar to hodors (just not as intense). This warps aerys head and is the reason why he's trying to burn the city down (at this exact moment bran is fighting the white walkers in the past and aerys is present body is being affected)

However it's this event that creates the white walkers hate for humans all along and is also why they're hunting bran now, they know eventually he will go back in time to fight them off. Also explains why the white walkers and dragons both disappeared for thousands of years. The night king fled and hid to rebuild his army.

This hardly makes sense to me and I typed it out. Is this plausible?


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05-23-2016 , 11:10 PM
I really don't think you'll be seeing much time alteration going forward, in fact I expect none. I'm thinking this was a very specific thing that happened that wont' become a thing they do.

Besides, I think one thing people are missing is that Brann had already altered time. Hodor has always been Hodor, the entire run of the show, so anything Brann has done is already done, so to speak.
05-23-2016 , 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JayKhalifa
This time loop **** got me in a mess on my speculation for future events.

What if bran decides to vision back to the past and use aerys Dragons to fight the white walkers before they become the white walkers.
It seems everything that bran or three-eyed raven has done in the past has already affected the only possible present?

time travelaments o_O

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05-23-2016 , 11:15 PM
I know that. But are we in the present or just following the specific timeline of events. Hodor was already hodor so we know he didn't change anything, but does that mean we're further in the future than the show is at right now?

I really hope you're right and we see no more time alteration, this **** had really messed with my hand as someone who's barely ever watched sci fi movies and hasn't been schooled on what's possible and what isn't.

Either way goat episode I'm still hyped. This is a show I'd love to see go on for 20 seasons.


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05-23-2016 , 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
It seems everything that bran or three-eyed raven has done in the past has already affected the only possible present?

time travelaments o_O
Seems that way (or I hope so). No BTTF changing the timeline crap. Think TNG and the episode with Data's head in 19th century San Fran.

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05-23-2016 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
I'm surprised some people dislike Sansa. She's one of the best characters in the show imo. That wasn't always true, but her arch is extremely well done, possibly better than any other character. I think she's been the most interesting character of this season tbh.
people hate sansa because this is the internet and we hate women.

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No.

No character arc beats Bronn's arc.
what "arc" do you think bronn has? he is the exact same person he has always been. an arc implies change and development. bronn is a funny dude who kills people. the fact that he has done it in lots of different places doesn't give him an arc.
05-23-2016 , 11:44 PM
05-24-2016 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DudeImBetter
Lannisters don't have an army nearby?

Regardless, if Lannister army > Tyrell, it's a pretty dicey move at best. Especially if a Lannister survives, ESPECIALLY knowing midget survives regardless.
Tywin says their gold mines are dry mid season 4. So I'm guessing the war+no income ruined their army
05-24-2016 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack Bando
Tywin says their gold mines are dry mid season 4. So I'm guessing the war+no income ruined their army
Cersei or who was it, told the Tyrells they had the second biggest Army, so I assume they still got the biggest Army. I just don't think their soldiers would be loyal to a Lannister on the other side of the world in the case of the rest of the Lannisters being murdered.

They also saw that the mob was angered with them and for that reason they couldn't get rid off the High Sparrow. They probably want the Tyrells to do the dirty work for them,which puts their guard down by letting them into the city.
05-24-2016 , 02:32 AM
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Her entire arc is "damsel in distress" until two episodes ago when she magically transformed into a badass for no good or believable reason
Because she's safe now. It really doesn't seem that weird to me - when she's being held captive by a dangerous and abusive sadist, she's weak, scared, and keeps her head down. Once she reconnects with good, safe people and has the opportunity to get an army together and get revenge, she wants to do that. What do you expect her to do when she's with Ramsay Bolton? Mow everyone in Winterfell down Kill Bill style? When she meets up with Jon Snow, do you expect her to go find a quiet piece of land where she can live out the rest of her days? I don't see any inconsistency in her character.
05-24-2016 , 03:43 AM
05-24-2016 , 03:54 AM
LOL, isn't that Close the Door?
CLODOR, CLODOR.
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05-24-2016 , 05:56 AM
In regards to being able to change things that have already happened, the Raven man says "the ink is dry," so we shouldn't see any of that.
05-24-2016 , 06:38 AM
Would Tyrion have any motivation to manipulate Varys with the new priestess? She doesn't really give any new information in her little speech (that scares the crap out of Varys) that Varys hasn't already told Tyrion in this scene:

05-24-2016 , 07:13 AM
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05-24-2016 , 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by kdub72
In regards to being able to change things that have already happened, the Raven man says "the ink is dry," so we shouldn't see any of that.
I really really hope not.

I watched the last 2 episodes back to back and once I realised what was going on with Hodor being affected by Bran I thought back to the previous episode when Jon and Sansa are talking about the day they left Winterfell how they wish they could go back and stop them leaving. Jon asks “how would we know?" And I dreaded that we were going to see Bran trying the Back To The Future style plan of fixing the past.
05-24-2016 , 08:34 AM
Bran might try, but it won't work. The Hodor story demonstrates it - Bran didn't change anything, Hodor was always that way from the perspective of the story.
05-24-2016 , 08:50 AM
Or he does try to change the past, but it turns out that whatever he does is the reason things end up as they currently are.
05-24-2016 , 08:53 AM
Yeh, same thing. Further evidence is that the tree guy had obviously had a vision of the future as he knew Bran had to become the next tree guy now.

      
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